Richard Jefferson is at Spurs Practice Right Now

[slick'81]

As sucky as this is for us, it can't be 1/10th as sucky as being one of The Faithful right now, having CP3 snatched out of your almost closed hands by Stern.

not sure rj and bonner r still here about 50/50 tbh

[ChuckD]

not sure rj and bonner r still here about 50/50 tbh

No way. The Lakers just lost their path to the future.

[Nathan89]

Does anyone think packaging Blair with RJ is enough to entice a team to give up a player like Kaman/Biedrins/Varejao....?

Kaman-no. He's in the last year of his contract. It just doesn't make sense.
Varejao-Unlikely. As you said they have Casspi. Would need a third team to take RJ.
Biedrins-maybe. They both have bad contracts. Rj might just play well in that system. (not sure I would want to give of the amnesty option for this guy)

[lurker23]

What trades do you have in mind? It's difficult to come up with any reasonable deals other than a horrible contract for a horrible contract.

This probably qualifies as horrible contract for horrible contract(s), but this is the one I've been kicking around the most:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7pmov4v

[MaNu4Tres]

Anything for RJ would be good. No, FAN-tastic.

Biedrins wouldn't play in crunchtime because of his free throws, but RJ was routinely benched in crunchtime during his tenure here.

I thought there was no possibly cir stance for R.J to be traded? What happened to NO TRADE VALUE? NONE whatsoever? (NONE meaning not having good or bad trade value.)

[objective]

I thought there was no possibly cir stance for R.J to be traded? What happened to NO TRADE VALUE? NONE whatsoever? (NONE meaning not having good or bad trade value.)

He as NONE as in no value.

You want to pretend that a negative value is a good value, go ahead.

Depending on other teams being stupid enough to trade for him is like expecting the Clippers to choose RJ over Butler.

[MaNu4Tres]

Does anyone think packaging Blair with RJ is enough to entice a team to give up a player like Kaman/Biedrins/Varejao....?

Biedrins Yes.

Dyess/Blair package could probably net Varejao. IMO

[MaNu4Tres]

He as NONE as in no value.

You want to pretend that a negative value is a good value, go ahead.

Depending on other teams being stupid enough to trade for him is like expecting the Clippers to choose RJ over Butler.

I'm not pretending anything. I never pretended like R.J had good value.

Negative value doesn't mean no team would trade for him like you have been implying. Any player is trade-able in this league as Rashard Lewis, Gilbert Arenas and Hedo Turkoglu have recently proven (which proves he does have some value, bad value but still trade-able value nonetheless).

[Seventyniner]

This probably qualifies as horrible contract for horrible contract(s), but this is the one I've been kicking around the most:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7pmov4v

This is my preferred scenario as well. Okafor is somewhat overpaid, but fits the Spurs like a glove. Ariza might be worse than RJ in talent, but a fresh start could always help, and at least he'd be different.

I just hope the Hornets go into full rebuild mode and are willing to shed those contracts.

[objective]

I'm not pretending anything. I never pretended like R.J had good value.

Negative value doesn't mean no team would trade for him like you have been implying. Any player is trade-able in this league as Rashard Lewis, Gilbert Arenas and Hedo Turkoglu have recently proven (which proves he does have some value, bad value but still trade-able value nonetheless).

I've said it before and would say it again, I'd take Hedo's trash for RJ even though Hedo is garbage.

GS can just amnesty Biedrins for cap room. , even trading for RJ they take on salary.

This board has been filled with ridiculous trades ideas for RJ that did not account for his lack of value. That has been the point.

[The_Worlds_finest]

If he can't be moved, time to consider tanking the season and moving TP for draft picks...

just how god damn stupid are u spurs will never trade parker

[Seventyniner]

This board has been filled with ridiculous trades ideas for RJ that did not account for his lack of value. That has been the point.

Could RJ have any value in allowing other teams to dump salary? Like the Okafor/Ariza thing, trading for RJ allows the Hornets to dump 2 3-year commitments while taking one back, cutting $31M in future salary.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I would gladly welcome Ariza and Okafor.

But wont the NBA look hypocritical for trading with anyone right now?

[ChuckD]

just how god damn stupid are u spurs will never trade parker

I'd certainly be calling the Hornets. Parker would be better than anything they've been offered so far for CP3, and they'd have him for 3 years.

[DesignatedT]

CP3 wouldn't sign an extension here .

[ChuckD]

CP3 wouldn't sign an extension here .

Then he'd make about $25M less on his next deal. If he doesn't, then you blow it up, but no player likes to leave money on the table. There are no dominant teams in the WC now. If you upgrade one position from borderline All Star to All NBA, it could put you over the top. If he gets that taste, he may not opt out, and give us another year. I think Tim leaves in 2000 if we don't win in 1999. The Spurs have to do something to stop the slow slide. Roll the dice and put it all on one number. The worst that happens is that he opts out and we start the inevitable re-build a year or two early.

[Dex]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Maybe the Spurs can convince Ashton Kutcher to show up and convince RJ he was just being Punk'd all along.
7 hours ago

[Calispursfan11]

Homeys, you gotta check out this great RJ interview. He actually comes off fairly well with a semblance of perspective. Most awkwardly of all, toward the end, Manu comes up behind RJ and starts humping him.

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/1...s=iref:nbahpt2

[stephen jackson]

lmao...
i just watched it

[cutewizard]

TJ Ford does answer the need for a playmaker off the bench

now if we just can get a big.........we are set

[TDMVPDPOY]

manu looks good with a shave head...

speakin of which rj carried through that professionally

[TDMVPDPOY]

manu looks good with a shave head...

speakin of which rj carried through that professionally

[guillermo78228]

damn, I just noticed he was still in town, I had ksat news in the background, and saw him at training camp, I reached for the remote to raise the volume while saying "wtf" lol

[Mr. Body]

1. Joseph couldn't have, like, you know, started the Visa process a long time ago?

2. Richard Jefferson will be a Spur this year. All year. No amnesty. There are no good alternatives.

Have fun!

[DMC]

Blair is one year past being valuable in the market. If he has a good few months, he might be deadline material, but he had a pretty uninspiring year last season, I thought he gave the appearance of regression, but being a starter vs coming off the bench can probably do that to someone.

RJ.. ?