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  1. #201
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    Most recent construction of CP3 trade, sources say, does indeed still send Odom to NOH. Hornets want him as much as Martin/Scola, even
    NO is so dumb

    Chad Ford

    Lots of speculation that Emeka Okafor is in the new CP3 deal. Source says he is not part of trade.

  2. #202
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    Let's see the sh*t they try and sneak by the front office.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    ^Man, and I wanted that thick chest for my team.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Let's see the sh*t they try and sneak by the front office.
    It don't matter for you, Deeps, you covered the entire gamut with that one post of yours. You can't be wrong.

  5. #205
    Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro Muser's Avatar
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    this is confusing.

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    Kevin Martin is the piece that makes no sense. As good as he is offensively, he's worse defensively. And mufka is is a beat offensively.

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    Kevin Martin is the piece that makes no sense. As good as he is offensively, he's worse defensively. And mufka is is a beat offensively.
    Martin's offense does overcome his defense and the Hornets would surround him good defenders, but they should get more from the Rockets if they're willing to take Scola's contract.

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    Veteran Killakobe81's Avatar
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    How is it the wrong thing? Do owners of a team not normally get a say? I'm confused.
    Come on now, DPG. We know plenty of folks hate the Lakers but that was horse and you know it. Did I think the KG trade was fair, no. But the GM's agreed. so what if Ainge and Mchale were former shower buddies in the 80's? A trade agreed to in principle should not of been vetoed. Stern was reactive like a fantasy football commish with NO BALLS! Stern would have no right to veto that or this trade either. 3 GM's agreed to that deal. NY times reported that Stern, Adam Silvestri and Stu Jackson (stern's top lackeys) were ALL being updated DAILY on the trade. They knew the main parts.

    You buy that stern acted for basket-ball reasons? He acted because of pressure from Gilbert, cuban etc.

    Again I dont thnk it was a great trade for the Lakers. They got the best player ... I would say Paul is top 10 (top 5 POSSIBLY before knee issues) and Pau is a top 15 player ...
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 12-10-2011 at 02:56 PM.

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    Pretty sure Scola is one of the main reasons they're doing the trade son.

  10. #210
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    Pretty sure Scola is one of the main reasons they're doing the trade son.

    Latest report is Cp3 and Okafor to LA

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    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    Come on now, DPG. We know plenty of folks hate the Lakers but that was horse and you know it. Did I think the KG trade was fair, no. But the GM's agreed. so what if Ainge and Mchale were former shower buddies in the 80's? A trade agreed to in principle should not of been vetoed. Stern was reactive like a fantasy football commish with NO BALLS! Stern would have no right to veto that or this trade either. 3 GM's agreed to that deal. NY times reported that Stern, Adam Silvestri and Stu Jackson (stern's top lackeys) were ALL being updated DAILY on the trade. They knew the main parts.
    You know who also agreed to the KG trade? The owners of the respective teams. The owners of the Hornets did not agree it was a good basketball trade so they squashed it, not the NBA. They were 100% correct as evidenced by LA likely still willing to give up more.

    You buy that stern acted for basket-ball reasons? He acted because of pressure from Gilbert, cuban etc.

    Again I dont thnk it was a great trade for the Lakers. They got the best player ... I would say Paul is top 10 (top 5 POSSIBLY before knee issues) and Pau is a top 15 player ...
    Do I think that was the only reason for the owner of the Hornets to veto a trade his GM brought to him, no, but it was the biggest reason IMO because it was a deal and they clearly left money on the table again evidenced by the fact they played hard ball and will get a better deal as they should. Demps is just a dummy and his owner wouldn't let him get taken completely advantage of.

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    New Paul Trade Submitted To NBA For Approval

    Dec 10, 2011 1:07 PM EST
    The Hornets, Lakers and Rockets have submitted a new proposed trade to the league office that would send Chris Paul to Los Angeles.
    In its capacity as the owner of the Hornets, the NBA will have to sign off on the deal before it becomes final.
    Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports reports that Luis Scola, Kevin Martin and a 2012 draft pick would still be sent by the Rockets to the Hornets as part of the deal.
    Other details have not yet been reported but the changes to the trade are between the Lakers and the Hornets.


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    Are you asking me?
    everyone..cause I keep reading(probably rumors) that NO wants Bynum and Pau for trade to work etc.

  14. #214
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    CP3 and Okafor to LA...I think Okafor will be packaged along with Bynum to Orlando for D12..and if we can't trade him then it will be Bynum and Ebanks and Character

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    our line-up next year should be

    Kobe
    Dwight
    CP3
    Artest
    Okafor

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    Veteran Killakobe81's Avatar
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    You know who also agreed to the KG trade? The owners of the respective teams. The owners of the Hornets did not agree it was a good basketball trade so they squashed it, not the NBA. They were 100% correct as evidenced by LA likely still willing to give up more.



    Do I think that was the only reason for the owner of the Hornets to veto a trade his GM brought to him, no, but it was the biggest reason IMO because it was a deal and they clearly left money on the table again evidenced by the fact they played hard ball and will get a better deal as they should. Demps is just a dummy and his owner wouldn't let him get taken completely advantage of.
    No the reason the Lakers have to make adjustments is because Stern took away some leverage. Plenty of basketball insiders said the hornets won with the leverage they had at that time. Stern did do them a favor by pissing off Odom and Pau ... but that trade was not crap. And only blind homers see that. Despite Getting Pau ROx had the weakest part of that deal, but word is Nene would be signed to pair with Pau ...if that did happen ROx would have two of the 10 best offensive post players in the league.

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    our line-up next year should be

    Kobe
    Dwight
    CP3
    Artest
    Okafor
    Assuming Dwight even comes over..I read Nene is holding out until he knows pAU GOES TO hOUSTON.

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    Assuming Dwight even comes over..I read Nene is holding out until he knows pAU GOES TO hOUSTON.
    my only problem in all of this is Kobe's stats are going to suffer more...it'll take him longer to surpass MJ in scoring...but it as long as he gets to #7

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    No the reason the Lakers have to make adjustments is because Stern took away some leverage. Plenty of basketball insiders said the hornets won with the leverage they had at that time. Stern did do them a favor by pissing off Odom and Pau ... but that trade was not crap. And only blind homers see that. Despite Getting Pau ROx had the weakest part of that deal, but word is Nene would be signed to pair with Pau ...if that did happen ROx would have two of the 10 best offensive post players in the league.
    Lakers have to make adjustments because at the last second, which I agree makes them look unorganized, the Hornets owner told his GM you didn't get enough and I'm not allowing us to do the deal. Go get more because just holding onto him for 1 year and letting him go for free is a better deal for us.

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    Lakers have to make adjustments because at the last second, which I agree makes them look unorganized, the Hornets owner told his GM you didn't get enough and I'm not allowing us to do the deal. Go get more because just holding onto him for 1 year and letting him go for free is a better deal for us.

    not true..you can't sell that to a potential new owner... we have em by the balls deepy just like I have you

  21. #221
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    Wrong. San Antonio just doesn't have the trade assets the Lakers do.

    The Lakers superior FO put the team in the position to trade for a CP3 and Dwight after winning another back to back. What did SA do? Trade for a player everybody knew was already washed-up and then overpaid him, again. And they still haven't amnesty'd the guy. lol
    Exactly. The spurs have made bad moves the last few years and have ended up with little in trade assets they are willing to trade. They are very conservative and have ridden the same team for too long now.

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    not true..you can't sell that to a potential new owner... we have em by the balls deepy just like I have you
    Of course you sell that to an owner. Doing the original trade no doubt lowers the value of the franchise.

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    not true..you can't sell that to a potential new owner.
    You absolutely can. In fact, holding on to your biggest trade chip in a huge expiring salary is the best possible move to attract a buyer this season.

  24. #224
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    Of course you sell that to an owner. Doing the original trade no doubt lowers the value of the franchise.
    How?


    We have this great team in NO for sale for $300 mil...no real talent...some run of the mill players and ohhh we got that 1 draft pick (25th pick) that might pan out...

    uh ok

  25. #225
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    this is really being protected by the league. no details have leaked. also they are taking their sweet time to asses this

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