Pau has been playing well. Glad to see his shot has returned. and I doubt this is on Brown, I think Kobe decided to go in to hero mode. If Kobe was smart he proved he has gas left, now he needs to showcase one or two of them for trades ...
This team as currently built is NOT good enough to win the West ...
LA is definitely a le contender as constructed. This isn't anything close to the damn Spurs of last year because LA isn't chucking 3's. They actually have 2 top 10 bigs (Spurs did not) and a top 3 SG (Spurs did not).
Spurs problem was talent. LA's problem is style of play and discipline. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Imagine MJ with Bynum and Pau.He modeled his game after the best of all time, how is that a bad thing?
he just took a fadeaway MJ used to do that!!11
Who said they are a first round team? Not me. Bynum is clearly a top 8 big man when healthy like he is right now.lol, so we went from "lol lakers are a first round team this year" to "lakers are clear contenders if only played to the bigs
Come on bro. and lol at bynum suddenly being "top 8' big men in the league.
Top SG now tbh, injury has felled the other 2 contenders ...
Oh and the Regulator has ended the story so let's pack up our and go home ...
Such bull and if you actually believe that it's a huge indictment on Kobe. Are they the clear cut favorites any more? No. But that's only because they haven't stacked the deck well above anyone else. They are still legit contenders and are still more stacked than most teams at the positions of need.
You usually have good takes so I'll take your word that you didn't consider the lakers a first/second round team at most.
and lol at "if bynum is healthy". We all know how this ends up. besides, was he not healthy last year in the playoffs?
Again, how is this team different from the last year team?
It's always on the coach. To think otherwise is putting the cart before the horse.
The team is built good enough to win the West. a dozen people here could write the winning formula: Feed the bigs, play inside out, run the pick and roll for Pau and Bynum. Get the 2nd unit going in the same manner.
You get Bynum going on the offensive end, he defends with energy. Pau is a fundamental player, he will play the same either way but he's still human and needs to be part of it.
The team last year underachieved, that doesn't mean they don't have the requisite talent to win the West and it's unbelievable that Laker fans would argue otherwise given the landscape of the West and the league in general.
Bynum wasn't anywhere near the level of healthy he is now and he's even taken another step forward with his dedication to the glass.
Oh, so now Bynum has different levels of "healthy"....got it.
So just so we're clear, you think that a team that got swept in the second round last year is suddenly a contender without making any serious trades+another year of wear and tear to its already old star players and starting PG?
The team isn't that different. Last year's team ran into a bad mofo and got steamrolled. They were also dealing with some internal issues with Pau, Shannon Brown and a few others, and Phil was retiring so it's hard to say what effort he put into it.
Regardless, they had the pieces to get it done. I expected them to be in the WCF last year.
Yes. Again, look at who they are competing against. There is absolutely no reason to think that with the talent LA has that they aren't a legit threat to win the West.
No one but the Mavs sweep the Lakers last year. That Mavs team was disassembled for the most part.
The Spurs were playing 95% of their potential during the regular season, the Lakers were playing about 70% of theirs. Teams playing 95% that lose in the 1st round (albeit with an injured Manu) aren't built to win it all. Teams playing <70% that lose in the 2nd round? Not the same.
Legit threat to win the west? I agree with that.
Then again, it's not saying much because there's about 4-5 teams that are a "legit threat" to win the west.
No. There's OKC, LA and maybe Dallas. No one else. The Clippers aren't getting that far.
Yes we are chucking we just bricking em ...Kobe included. So i watch 90 Laker games a year but you guys know we are a le contender ...better than I do?
Look maybe we develop in to one. I hope we do, but I doubt it. Not many teams featuring a PG as bad as Fisher is and as young As morris have won les. Last team I can think of is 2000 Lakers but they had a prime Shaq and young Kobe. the had PJ as coach and horry on the bench. Heck when Spurs won in 99 they had 2 7 footers better than ours plus Avery is >better than Dfish is at this point. Plus you had SJax who is >> Artest or Barnes (who i still like) ...Sure other teams have holes ... but again our bigs though good are not two HOFers.
Also, last night it made SOME sense for Kobe to shoot ... Our bigs were gassed, we gave up 17 offensive boards ... we were flat he tried to spark us. I know many on here don't like his style but he was trying to win not stat pad ...some of you are just dense. It's easy to hate so you so ..plus Kobe threatens Duncan so I get it.
It doesn't matter how many games you watch. We know you have the right pieces to win. You seem like you just don't want to have to compete for it, like it should be a given or it's out of the question.Yes we are chucking we just bricking em ...Kobe included. So i watch 90 Laker games a year but you guys know we are a le contender ...better than I do?
Look maybe we develop in to one. I hope we do, but I doubt it. Not many teams featuring a PG as bad as Fisher is and as young As morris have won les. Last team I can think of is 2000 Lakers but they had a prime Shaq and young Kobe. the had PJ as coach and horry on the bench. Heck when Spurs won in 99 they had 2 7 footers better than ours plus Avery is >better than Dfish is at this point. Plus you had SJax who is >> Artest or Barnes (who i still like) ...Sure other teams have holes ... but again our bigs though good are not two HOFers.
Also, last night it made sense for Kobe to shoot ... Our bigs were gassed we gave up 17 offensive boards ... we were flt he tried to spark us. I know many on here don't like his style but he was trying to win not stat pad ...some of you are just dense. It's easy to hate so you so ..plus Kobe threatens Duncan so I get it.
If you don't get far, it's likely going to be because of Kobe (barring injuries).
Oh, and lol Fisher has won 5 les at PG.
Nothing Kobe does hurts Duncan. Sorry to break that news to you. That is just Kobe fan retort. Just like how they try and downplay the talent he has around him and prop up Lebron's Cavs like they had Prime Jordan and Shaq.
Bingo. That is Kobe fan mentality. If it's not a clear cut thing = not good enough talent around Kobe.
You guys are silly. So PJ had no reason to to jab his finger in Pau's chest? We had no reason to trade Pau for CP3? Mitch saw we had a le ready team but just was gonna blow that up correct?
You guys are so basketball smart. SO it makes sense to build up the Lakers so you can blame Kobe? Pot meet kettle DPG and DMC ...
No. No one is saying the Lakers are the clear cut favorites and that it would be a travesty if they didn't win. We are saying he has more than enough talent to compete legitimately for a le.
Just because you have a good team doesn't mean you shouldn't look to improve it so your point about them trying to trade doesn't make any sense
If anybody thinks this Lakers team can beat the Heat (w/o injuries) 4 times out of 7 games, then they need to contemplate suicide
So in your opinion LA is not a contender? They have 0 shot at getting to the finals? Because if you can get to the finals you are a contender.
Good job making this a black and white issue
Winning the Western Conference this year will not be the accomplishment it was in years past. It's a garbage conference looking to send a sacrificial lamb to the Heat.
They are a WC contender, not a Championship-winning contender.
SMH at that mindset. The West still has good teams and the East has sucked compared to the West for years, but they were still considered contenders. You can spin it all you want; no one gave the Mavs a real shot against MIA either. Fact is, if you can get to the finals you are a contender, no matter how "weak" your conference is.
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