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    Blair sucks. Bonner sucks just a little bit more.

    But, they both ing suck and have no reason getting so many minutes on a good team...
    Difference being that Blair will have great games at times. Bonner has had what, ONE decent game this season?

    Also, when Blair plays bad, his PT goes down. When Bonner s the bed, Pop plays him MORE. What the .

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    Blair has higher upside to succeed, but he's also much more likely to hurt the team with bad turnovers and atrocious shot selection..

    Bonner just misses shots..

    They are both historically bad defensive players, and Blair can't rebound anymore, so that's no longer an advantage in his favor..

    I'd rather have Bonner on the floor, but I pray to Tebow that the Spurs can find a way to land a decent 3rd big..somehow..I don't mind one of Blair/Bonner as the 4th big, getting 5-10 minutes per game, but neither of them are suited to play the 3rd big role, let alone the 2nd big role..

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    atrocious shot selection..

    Bonner just misses shots..
    If Bonner is shooting 30% every game, he has atrocious shot selection no matter where/when he's shooting. And that's been the case lately. Missing 3s is a lot worse than missing bunnies because it gives the other team long rebounds and transition points.

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    I agree, but at least he's taking open shots that are created by teammates..

    Blair constantly forces 1 on 1 shots..

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    Blair has higher upside to succeed, but he's also much more likely to hurt the team with bad turnovers and atrocious shot selection..

    Bonner just misses shots..

    They are both historically bad defensive players, and Blair can't rebound anymore, so that's no longer an advantage in his favor..

    I'd rather have Bonner on the floor, but I pray to Tebow that the Spurs can find a way to land a decent 3rd big..somehow..I don't mind one of Blair/Bonner as the 4th big, getting 5-10 minutes per game, but neither of them are suited to play the 3rd big role, let alone the 2nd big role..
    Indeed. Spurs needs more shot alterering in the paint.

    If Bonner is shooting 30% every game, he has atrocious shot selection no matter where/when he's shooting. And that's been the case lately. Missing 3s is a lot worse than missing bunnies because it gives the other team long rebounds and transition points.

    True but just having Bonner on the court, as painful as it is, opens up the floor for the rest of the team.


    But without Ginobili that floor spacing almost doesn't even matter. He's got the much needed versatility and energy to get a good offensive flow going for the Spurs...and without both Manu and TJ Ford....its going to be like the Grizz series all over again where opponents hound Parker into making bad decisions since he's the only one with handles

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    Splitter 11-13 for 25 points and 10 rebounds...

    On the court for 2 more whole minutes than Bonner.
    That stat line and performance that Splitter threw out tonight versus the Rockets, was the ultimate " you" to the head coach.

    Case closed. No questions asked.

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    Bonner was fine *tonight*. Doesn't always happen that way but Blair was just awful tonight.

    The inconsistency between Bonner and Blair is just horrible. Both need to go tbh. Along with RJ and I'm not sure I like Green getting all these minutes tbh.
    spot on, tbh

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    The fact we are arguing over Bonner and Blair as a key to our rotation makes me laugh my azz off and cry at the damn same time

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    If Blair's nothing involves getting more rebounds than Bonner in 10 less minutes, I question what "nothing" is to Spurs fans. AT LEAST Blair pulls down boards. That's SOMETHING. Bonner gives us NOTHING.
    Uh? They both had the same amount of rebounds. Sure, Blair played half the minutes, but that's entirely his fault. He got 3 shots blocked and because he's DUMB, he ended up getting in foul trouble with ticky tacky fouls.

    Plus if you actually watched the game, Matty surprisingly put a decent outing defensively and actually scored the ball well despite the poor shooting percentage.... Awful doesn't even begin to describe DeJuan today.

    It was just a game. I suspect the odds of Matt being passable on defense in the foreseeable future are fairly low.

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    Just quit. You suck.

    Or somebody fire him.

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    It's what it is. A group of scrubs surrounding a retiring legend, a fairly decent shoot first PG and an always injured international star. Tiago is the wildcard, but he's not potent enough to make up for the shortcomings we have everywhere else.

    It looks good sometimes, and you would think it could be really good, but these scrubs have a tendency of falling back to the mean and that kills us. The killer mostly is that our retiring legend is making max salary.

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    I am not sure Pop cares to coach a 3rd big. He'd rather have his system guys. He's been so reluctant to use Splitter.

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    Pop was gifted Robinson and Duncan. They are the reasons the Spurs have any rings. Surely Pop knows that you have to have a solid presence in the paint to win rings.

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    It's what it is. A group of scrubs surrounding a retiring legend, a fairly decent shoot first PG and an always injured international star. Tiago is the wildcard, but he's not potent enough to make up for the shortcomings we have everywhere else.

    It looks good sometimes, and you would think it could be really good, but these scrubs have a tendency of falling back to the mean and that kills us. The killer mostly is that our retiring legend is making max salary.
    I don't disagree, but it's hard to be called the wildcard if you don't get the minutes to prove you might be that.

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    If Pop is going to have stupid rotations he may as well tank the season and develop the young talent.

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    If Pop is going to have stupid rotations he may as well tank the season and develop the young talent.
    Which is exactly what I think CIA Pop is doing!

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    If Pop is going to have stupid rotations he may as well tank the season and develop the young talent.
    Which is exactly what I think CIA Pop is doing!
    You don't think Pop and the FO knows this is a particularly loaded draft for bigs especially in the lottery?

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    Watching Pop waste what's probably the deepest Spurs team I can remember is really frustrating.
    deepest Spurs team ever?

    with as many people that hate Bonner and RJ and our obviously lack of bigs, I'm not sure anyone would agree.

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    deepest Spurs team ever?

    with as many people that hate Bonner and RJ and our obviously lack of bigs, I'm not sure anyone would agree.
    The Spurs came into the season with just about an entire roster full of guys who could contribute in their minutes. There are no Mengke Bateers or Jackie Butlers on this team. The composition of the team is a failure of Pop and the front office, but it's irrelevant to the number of fresh bodies you could be throwing at this condensed schedule.

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    The Spurs came into the season with just about an entire roster full of guys who could contribute in their minutes. There are no Mengke Bateers or Jackie Butlers on this team. The composition of the team is a failure of Pop and the front office, but it's irrelevant to the number of fresh bodies you could be throwing at this condensed schedule.
    James Anderson has that Jackie Butler look, imo.

    Plenty of years that have deeper, more solid rosters, imo.

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    Plenty of teams had more talent in their top 8. This season more than all the others requires bodies to give minutes to, and this team is as able to do that as any in a long time. That they aren't is just another failure. Exhibit A: Parker's minutes the last two games.

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    If he would've gotten over himself last year, we could have done more damage in the playoffs. He's clearly talented and it's a shame he lets his ego get in the way. He should be playing 30 mpg, but he has sill not worked hard enough on fixing his ego.

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    Plenty of teams had more talent in their top 8. This season more than all the others requires bodies to give minutes to, and this team is as able to do that as any in a long time. That they aren't is just another failure. Exhibit A: Parker's minutes the last two games.
    Sometimes your hate for Pop really clouds your common sense imo. With Ginoboli, and Ford's injuries, Parker is the only playmaker left, so of course his minutes are going to go up. Neal has proven, in a very short amount of time, that he can't run the offense, much less break down a defense, and given Joseph's status as a raw, 3rd string pg, I not suprised by his erratic minutes, and lack of contributions so far. I hope that Parker doesn't break down with his playing too many minutes, but right now, hes the only playmaking option.

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    Pop may be the best coach in the league based on past performances.

    But this season - both as overall president of basketball operations and as a coach, he has been a dud so far.

    1) The Antonio McDyess contract and how the Spurs handled it was a head scratcher to say the least.

    2) The fact that the Spurs could snag only one half decent NBA player in TJ Ford was another.

    3) Kawhi was a good addition, but we surely could have got more than just a first round pick for George Hill.

    4) His coaching has taken a nose dive from being a Coach unto himself - a defense first discipline first coach - to a Don Nelson duplicate as Timvp points out. His handling of Tiago Splitter has tested the patience of even Pop's hardened supporters.

    5) Tim Duncan deserves better in the final stages of his career. Agreed that it is difficult to do the best in the small market, but Pop (and his subordinates in the FO) has underplayed his hand and has been under par as coach.

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    That stat line and performance that Splitter threw out tonight versus the Rockets, was the ultimate " you" to the head coach.

    Case closed. No questions asked.
    So many people saw Splitter's potential last year. Pop put a lid on it.
    Ditto for this year.
    What kind of a coach does this?

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