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And which team have 10 mil salary cup space ?
Wouldn't the Spurs, Pistons (played college in the area), Hawks, Warriors be interested?
I personally dont like him much, but he is a decent scorer.
And which team have 10 mil salary cup space ?
I didn't realize he made THAT much he makes almost $14 million! He makes RJ and his lover look like bargains, tbh.
LOL sure they will get cap space ... but man they still have to pay that man THIS year. Another crappy part of that deal.
Ok wait, let me get this straight ...
Hornets got:
Kaman to sit on the bench making $14 million that they have to pay this year.
Gordon a great prospect but is hurt (per usual).
Aminu is trash.
Minny's pick, but they are playing better than usual ...
Cap space
Plus dwindling attendance ...
Clips:
Dump a $14 million back-up center
Get a top 2 PG
Dump a prospect that had not impressed
Attendance goes up
This was a GREAT trade ...for the Clips ...
mavs don't need another scoring option at the low post imho which they already have plenty of, a defensive BIG is what they need most now and thats why they should look seriously into the possibilities of getting DH come the offseason. an european soft bald ass ain't the solution imho
How many times has anybody ever said that bout the Clips?
The value of Kaman in the deal was that he was an expiring contract, wasn't it? That's likely why the Hornets are trying to flip him for even more youth/picks. They're getting their young players more time and are in full-on tank mode.
Not every team can operate like the Lakers. The Thunder tanked for years to get where they are at. Hornets didn't need to acquire established players. They needed to start over completely. They did the same thing in 2004-2005 which helped them draft Paul and free up cap space to acquire Chandler.
i'd take him as a 1 year rental if they just feel like giving him up for nothing
I get the end game. H78 I do. But just saying if they plan to flip Kaman for cap space why not hold on to Paul and force another team or Clips (NOT Lakers) to find more expirings especially ones that you would consider actually keeping at the right price? A young 1 year rental type? I get that this was the best deal out of the L.A. teams if you just want to tank ...but $14 million for this stiff? Was this honestly REALLY the best they could do?
I agree, that is why they should of asked for more of those, in the Paul deal when they had all the leverage. Force the Clips to find acquire more. Clips should of found another team, and provided Hornets ALL they wanted.
the thunder tanked cause the owner wanted to move
I don't know if it was the best. Paul wanted out. He had select places he wanted to go. NY and LA. Didn't want Golden State, didn't want Denver, didn't want Portland. It really limited what the Hornets could get.
They were gonna trade Kaman anyway. He wasn't a long-term piece. Same as Landry who was signed to a one year deal. They're gonna flip him too eventually. The Clippers trade allowed them enough space to sign Landry in the first place. They're gonna blow this current team up as well. Marco will probably be gone by the deadline. They traded for two young players in Greivis Vasquez and Xavier Henry who are getting quality minutes. Aminu is getting quality minutes off the bench. Jason Smith is starting now and playing well. Gustavo Ayon is playing well off the bench. The Hornets have lost a ton of close games this season. They have an awful record but their point differential is better than 6-7 teams. That's without Gordon.
They're gonna draft a stud and should acquire another solid pick who won't be a stud but could be a long-term starter alongside with Gordon.
They couldn't because Paul didn't commit long-term. I don't blame them for not giving up more. Paul's only committed for two seasons.
And if DPG comes in here, I am not trying to relive that debate. I just think they should be able to get more for a top 5 player that is all. But it sounds like you guys are at peace with it being a "fair" deal. I disagree but like you said I can't say that I know for sure they could of done better, I just think they COULD have. Maybe I am wrong.
Agree him limiting his city choices didn't help. LOL Gilbert getting all pissy but Paul still went to a huge market and forced the Hornets hands ...
I've been to every Hornets home game this year and I must stay that I have been less than impressed by Chris Kaman. All he can do is shoot mid range jumpers. Other than that, he contributes nothing. He is a turnover machine as well. If the Hornets can get any value for him at all, then by all means, do it.
99% of Hornet fans are happy with deal. They know the team is struggling now, but at least they're struggling with young players plus they get a high draft pick and a decent pick. Kaman isn't even with the team right now. They told him to stay home until he's traded. Having Gordon healthy is important as well.
Kaman sucks. I never liked him. I knew he wasn't gonna be here long-term. I'm glad he's finally not getting playing time. Ayon and Smith have more upside. Okafor is much better and Landry plays hard all the time even though he will be traded eventually as well.
ANd that is another issue. I guess because I saw he and Aminu as trash clouds my judgement a bit. but I thought Kaman was only getting $10 mill standard rate for a "decent" center. But having to pay him that sucks, so of course they want to flip him.
Isnt he a pal of Dirk? Since he expires, why not try and flip him to Mavs? Get Mahinmi, Odom and one more expiring. to make numbers work?
At least you can see if Ian is worth it you buy out Lamar and let billionaire Cubes pay Kaman ...
I think it could work.
In hindsight, yeah it was. I thought the clippers gave up too much BUT struck gold when it came to the marketing potential of having CP3.
But now.. they have the gold mine AND cp3 the player has been effective this year.
We have to wait and see what happens to Kaman and who they end up drafting. However, getting Kaman to sit on the bench isnt necessarily a bad thing, hes an expiring and frees up 14 million for the upcoming free agency.
Mavs don't really need him.
They need less Jason Kidd, more West/Roddy.
I get that, I just hate dead money. Watching Luke sit on our bench for $7 million makes me want to slap a small child ...
No one will ever fault you for that. At least hes expiring this year right?
Edit: Holy crap, just looked it up, hes got another season. Man whose his agent? That's some fine work he did.
Why would you force a team to flip Kaman for a talent when you can hand pick the guy you want with cap space. Killa is severely underestimating the value of cap space going forward with the new CBA.
He keeps trying to find ways to back up what he said about the trade when he's dead wrong
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