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    Tim Duncan has four rings. He has earned the privilege to end his career on his terms; not those of a dimwitted fan. TO say he sucks disrespects wha he has done for the franchise and its fans.

    On the other hand, there are some fans who do indeed suck.

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    If Tim is not back next year and what ever overrated free agent the Spurs luck up to sign a lot of ppl will look back at this Thread and say Really I said that?

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    TD needs to go to Germany this offseason, tbh.

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    well damn, im sorry Im being brutally honest. my bad
    Don't apologize. It is what it is. Peyton Manning is going through it. Duncan will have to go through it as well. Duncan's deficiencies have been exposed the past two playoff series. At some point, time (and health) catch up to all athletes. Duncan has been a great player and consummate pro, but it's clear he can't bring it every night - nor should he be expected to.

    However our angst shouldn't be against him. It should be against the front office for not helping to mitigate his decline by getting him more help in his waning years.

    Splitter is finally emerging as the Spurs best frontline player, yet still hasn't completely earned the trust of the head coach.

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    Tim Duncan sucked tonight = truth

    Tim Duncan sucks = CoM member trolling the Spurs forum hoping for this type of reaction

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    Tim Duncan sucked tonight = truth

    Tim Duncan sucks = CoM member trolling the Spurs forum hoping for this type of reaction
    Duncan averaging 13/7 going on two full seasons means he sucks.

    Look, it's okay that he sucks. Everyone has to experience it. It's a cycle.

    It's okay.

    Just say it with me.

    It's okay. It was a great career, but call a spade a spade. The sodomization of his ass tonight by Pekovic (i swear i have to look up his name everytime i type it because i have no clue who the he is) is the straw that broke the camel's back.

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    13 and 7 in mid-20 minutes per game sucks? I wish the Spurs had 15 sucktastic players then.

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    It's threads like this that are dragging this forum into the ter.

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    It's threads like this that are dragging this forum into the ter.
    It's performances like Timmy's tonight that are dragging this team into the ter.

    Timmy is also the leader of the team. If the leader gets sodomized by a nobody, then it's safe to say the team is going into the ter.

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    Barkley likes to say that you know it's time to retire when players you know you should be dominating are beating you.

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    Caeman trolling timvp

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    Don't apologize. It is what it is. Peyton Manning is going through it. Duncan will have to go through it as well. Duncan's deficiencies have been exposed the past two playoff series. At some point, time (and health) catch up to all athletes. Duncan has been a great player and consummate pro, but it's clear he can't bring it every night - nor should he be expected to.

    However our angst shouldn't be against him. It should be against the front office for not helping to mitigate his decline by getting him more help in his waning years.

    Splitter is finally emerging as the Spurs best frontline player, yet still hasn't completely earned the trust of the head coach.
    I think Duncan will find it much easier to play of Splitter at this point in his career. He can just worry about rebounding and defense and taking advantage of mismatches. Sort of like a 2003 David Robinson.

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    It's performances like Timmy's tonight that are dragging this team into the ter.

    Timmy is also the leader of the team. If the leader gets sodomized by a nobody, then it's safe to say the team is going into the ter.










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    I think Duncan will find it much easier to play of Splitter at this point in his career. He can just worry about rebounding and defense and taking advantage of mismatches. Sort of like a 2003 David Robinson.
    Maybe, but i didn't see that out there. I saw that when Splitter hit the floor, he took a backseat to Timmy. Instead of running the PnR with Splitter, Timmy ran it. Instead of posting Splitter, they threw it into Timmy.

    Last year I saw Timmy take a backseat to the hot three point shooting. I think this was easier for him because there was no one to challenge him down low. However, this year he must contend with Splitter and I don't think he is willing to back down so easily.

    Unfortunately, its hurting the team and holding Splitter back.

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    He's waaaaay past his prime

    It happens..

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    lol tdthescrub

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    TD has done enough for the team to suck forever bro! He has given them 4 rings basically! You seem to be quick to say he sucks! Is he great now no! But he is still able to dominate a few games now like some said and will retire on his own terms and I will never bad mouth the dude. Splitter to me now is better no doubt, they should play him more and Tim should play wit him more IMO to help develop the guy! Age happens to all, it will happen to the best of them. Tim doesn't suck, father time does.

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    TD doesn't suck but the amount of $$$ he's making honestly isn't deserved given his level of play the last 2-3 years.On a team thats known to keep salaries low 20 mil is just too much and honestly I was surprised a little this season that Tim didn't take less to enable the team to have a little room and go out get someone to help them contend which made me question his will to get another ring.

    But tbh as much as I love my Spurs things have gotten a little too complacent the last few years,I don't see the drive and quite honestly the will to win it all that they used to have.

    I would ship out Manu and TD at the end of this season a rebuild around Parker,IMO the only one of the big 3 whose got a few years of solid production left.

    No hate for Manu and TD just looking at the Spurs contending
    Oh and it goes w/o saying Bonner and RJ need to be gone as well

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    Stop with this BS. Two games ago TD scored 28 and nobody was saying .

    Yes, TD retires and we'll see the great Blair playing 40 minutes.
    thank you +1
    ya'll need to chill man he still gives more effort than the supposedly best powerforward in the nba paula gasol i mean c'mon guys

    i honestly think he figuring out a new role on this team going from destroying everyone everygame to letting tiago do his thing isnt going to be easy fellas give him time hes a brilliant dude watch when he takes passenger seat were going to spank some ass

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    i actually think timmy is teaching tiago finally !! prob. reason why he going nuts this year
    timmy is his idol guys and if timmy is backing you up as a player and a teacher can you imagine the confidence boost?

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    Trolltalk.com

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    well I wasn't trolling

    I was drinking though

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    Just seems like more whining and ing to me IMHO.
    It is what it is, as Bowen used to say.

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    well I wasn't trolling

    I was drinking though
    No need to sound apologetic. Timmy "the TOSB" was schooled last night. No need to deny reality. Accepting reality doesn't mean you're no longer a fan.

    I read this article earlier today. Here is a little bit of it.

    "Pekovic used his 6-foot-11, 290-pound frame to gain position, and it yielded offensive production throughout the contest. With the Wolves down 42-41 at halftime, Pekovic stepped up in the third and took charge with eight points in the first four minutes of the third to bolster a 15-4 Wolves run." Mark Remme, Wolves Editor/Writer

    This was the stretch where Pekovic danced around Timmy's old ass.

    The TOSB was played with last night. It angered a few of us, like yourself. However, what is most discouraging is seeing a lot of TOSB homers try and minimize the fact that Pekovic tore another asshole into that bag.

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    Like everyone else, I love Duncan. He's one of my all-time favorite Spur players. I'm eternally grateful for his contributions to the Spurs franchise and for practically carrying this team to their four championships. We were lucky to get him and without him, none of it would've been been possible.

    That said, I don't believe any player is above criticism for declining productivity. I remember Tim, early in his career, stating that he "wouldn't be one of those players that stay in the game too long." Shaq said it too. They all say it. Yet, look what happens. Most of them DO stay too long. It's rare that athletes get to go out on their own terms. It's certainly understandable because sports has been their whole life.

    Unfortunately for the Spurs and us fans, that superstar power forward, who dominated the compe ion, the one that we all knew and loved is gone. The Duncan we saw last night is more the norm, rather than the exception. That is the same Duncan who showed up in that 2010 playoff sweep versus the Suns. It's also the same one who got worked over by the Grizzlies in that epic playoff series upset versus the Grizzlies.

    If Tim had a young, athletic, budding talent, to mentor - like he was to David Robinson - it could be easy to justify him continuing to play beyond this season. The fact of the matter is he doesn't have that - and the FO should bear the brunt of the responsibility, as a result.

    The pendulum cycle of sports dictates that a team often must get worse before it can get better. After all, that's how the Spurs were able to nab David Robinson and Tim Duncan in the first place. Getting a superstar is no easy task and the Spurs have been lucky twice. While it's unlikely that lightening will strike a third time, with a fairly high draft pick, they could still manage to get a good young frontline player to pair with Splitter to build around for the future. Duncan is still good enough to keep the Spurs a mediocre, fringe playoff team. Yet there is no upward development surge or high draft pick emerging from that.

    I'm not advocating that he needs to retire, however his diminshed skills and inconsistent production would certainly indicate that he should at least consider it. All I'm saying is that the longer Duncan plays beyond this season, the longer the organization will be delayed from "turning the page" and starting the process of bottoming out and then getting better.

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