Why are athiests so hated in the USA?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

gays marrying is their failure to leave religious people and their concepts alone. gays don't need their union to be recognized by a religious concept. one thing that gays commonly do is act really flamboyant and throw their lifestyle in our faces while seeking acceptance, not really "leaving people alone" at all. Don't tell me to accept your lifestyle, leave me out of it.

Abortion, that's not leaving babies alone and allowing them to choose whether or not they want to die. TBH in an an abortion, the baby doesn't choose to die. Someone else makes that choice for them and honestly nobody has that right.

qualifying the term "letting people make their own decisions. The only people who want to impose their will on others in this scenario are Christians.

[z0sa]

Believe it or not, I don't need to religion to know that killing someone is wrong.

me either. I am a deist, FWIW.

[Proxy]

What I wonder is this: what is the general foundation of a TRUE atheists' ethics. I am not saying atheists are unethical, or incapable of ethics. I simply wonder what an atheist believes is the moral foundation for his actions - whether for good and ill.

Nope. We're all believers in doing whatever the we feel like since there's no consequence.

Truth be told, Atheists will make noise because of a lack of separation of church and state within the government (abortion, gay rights, etc) and the impending detriment Christians cause to the progress of human intellect.

You're playing stupid if you think Christians are frowned upon in this country.

[z0sa]

Although I was raised Catholic, it would be what goes around comes around

that sounds like karma, which I don't believe to be true or real and IMHO, a real atheist wouldn't either, at least for the most part.

there are consequences for your actions, but not every action has an equal or positive moral reaction, basically.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Nope. We're all believers in doing whatever the we feel like since there's no consequence.

Truth be told, Atheists will make noise because of a lack of separation of church and state within the government (abortion, gay rights, etc) and the impending detriment Christians cause to the progress of human intellect.

You're playing stupid if you think Christians are frowned upon in this country.

This. Christians who think there's some kind of "War on Religion" in this country are kidding themselves. If there was a war on religion abortion and gay rights wouldn't be an issue at all.

[LnGrrrR]

What I wonder is this: what is the general foundation of a TRUE atheists' ethics. I am not saying atheists are unethical, or incapable of ethics. I simply wonder what an atheist believes is the moral foundation for his actions - whether for good and ill.

They are as varied as the reasons for being an atheist, I would assume. Some go by their conscience, some go by how they were raised, some go by logical choices, etc etc

Atheists don't have one set moral code, after all. The same goes for Christians, Jews, Islamics, etc etc.

[LnGrrrR]

why do atheists want so much attention?

Might as well ask, "Why do BLANK GROUP OF PEOPLE want so much attention?"

[NewcastleKEG]

that sounds like karma, which I don't believe to be true or real and IMHO, a real atheist wouldn't either, at least for the most part.

there are consequences for your actions, but not every action has an equal or positive moral reaction, basically.

OR

Do onto others as you want done onto you. Pretty simple.

An athiest would argue why do you need the fear of some spirit watching & judging you, to be a ''good person''

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Might as well ask, "Why do BLANK GROUP OF PEOPLE want so much attention?"

lol Pat's little brother

[z0sa]

Nope. We're all believers in doing whatever the we feel like since there's no consequence.

Truth be told, Atheists will make noise because of a lack of separation of church and state within the government (abortion, gay rights, etc) and the impending detriment Christians cause to the progress of human intellect.

You're playing stupid if you think Christians are frowned upon in this country.

Truth be told, I don't know exactly what you're getting at - at least in relation to my post. It was not meant to be any kind of reflection upon religion or christianity, modern or otherwise.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Truth be told, I don't know exactly what you're getting at - at least in relation to my post. It was not meant to be any kind of reflection upon religion or christianity, modern or otherwise.

I guess it wasn't the point of your post, but generally when someones says, "I don't understand where atheists get any morals!?!?!?!" it's usually a zealot who acts like you're a heartless evil doing stick if you don't believe in Christianity.

[LnGrrrR]

that sounds like karma, which I don't believe to be true or real and IMHO, a real atheist wouldn't either, at least for the most part.

Who says an atheist wouldn't believe? Just because one is an atheist doesn't mean one isn't supers ious, believe in something supernatural, illogical, etc etc

[NewcastleKEG]

Who says an atheist wouldn't believe? Just because one is an atheist doesn't mean one isn't supers ious, believe in something supernatural, illogical, etc etc

Actually I think it is

Atheist is against all. So you're kinda backing yourself into a corner by admitting you are Atheist

[Proxy]

gays marrying is their failure to leave religious people and their concepts alone. gays don't need their union to be recognized by a religious concept. one thing that gays commonly do is act really flamboyant and throw their lifestyle in our faces while seeking acceptance, not really "leaving people alone" at all. Don't tell me to accept your lifestyle, leave me out of it.

Abortion, that's not leaving babies alone and allowing them to choose whether or not they want to die. TBH in an an abortion, the baby doesn't choose to die. Someone else makes that choice for them and honestly nobody has that right.

So you're letting a small percentage of people dictate your thought on sexuals? The flamboyant ones are annoying people. Has nothing to do with their gender. And sexuality is genetic a huge majority of the time. You're ignorant to think they are wrong in any way.

And abortion... you obviously have no idea the difference between something being alive or human. You have no concept of what self awareness is and no idea of the process or role your brain actually plays. You don't know anything about biology or what evolution truly is, nor are you an expert on any type of psychology or philosophy, so keep your nose out of things you know ABSOLUTELY nothing about. If you knew, your opinion would be different, but instead you let a conservative and ignorant mindset drive your thoughts instead of thinking for yourself... you'd know about the difference between a fetus and a human... the difference between perception and mere function.

Long story short, until the brain grows enough, it's nothing more than a tree. Still alive, but not human. Souls are complete myth.

[z0sa]

Who says an atheist wouldn't believe? Just because one is an atheist doesn't mean one isn't supers ious, believe in something supernatural, illogical, etc etc

Is not atheism literally defined as "without belief?" If one truly does not believe in the supernatural, how can he then leave 'room' for such occurrences?

[z0sa]

I guess it wasn't the point of your post, but generally when someones says, "I don't understand where atheists get any morals!?!?!?!" it's usually a zealot who acts like you're a heartless evil doing stick if you don't believe in Christianity.

Nah. I don't follow any religion. I personally take my ethics from my own personal experiences, with pain, brutality, hunger, etc. I am wondering if atheists are the same.

[mavs>spurs]

So you're letting a small percentage of people dictate your thought on sexuals? The flamboyant ones are annoying people. Has nothing to do with their gender. And sexuality is genetic a huge majority of the time. You're ignorant to think they are wrong in any way.

And abortion... you obviously have no idea the difference between something being alive or human. You have no concept of what self awareness is and no idea of the process or role your brain actually plays. You don't know anything about biology or what evolution truly is, nor are you an expert on any type of psychology or philosophy, so keep your nose out of things you know ABSOLUTELY nothing about. If you knew, your opinion would be different, but instead you let a conservative and ignorant mindset drive your thoughts instead of thinking for yourself... you'd know about the difference between a fetus and a human... the difference between perception and mere function.

Long story short, until the brain grows enough, it's nothing more than a tree. Still alive, but not human. Souls are complete myth.

Get over yourself, you aren't all knowing and don't have the RIGHT to decide "when" someone becomes a human. Take your abortion tools and stay out of the human development process thanks.

[Proxy]

Is not atheism literally defined as "without belief?" If one truly does not believe in the supernatural, how can he then leave 'room' for such occurrences?

an atheists bases views on known fact. "Without belief"...? No, that isn't the definition. It's believing in fact. Quit trying to put your personal definition upon us.

And I used to be a Deist in highschool... when I was too scared to take a side.

[Trainwreck2100]

Who says an atheist wouldn't believe? Just because one is an atheist doesn't mean one isn't supers ious, believe in something supernatural, illogical, etc etc

pretty sure it does actually, the idea of the supernatural is counter-intuitive to atheism.

[NewcastleKEG]

Is not atheism literally defined as "without belief?" If one truly does not believe in the supernatural, how can he then leave 'room' for such occurrences?

Without Belief = Rejection of Belief

Yes. You can quickly spin that into, not caring/without passion or heart

[JoeChalupa]

I don't hate athiests. I'm not the one going to .

[mavs>spurs]

qualifying the term "letting people make their own decisions. The only people who want to impose their will on others in this scenario are Christians.

You said yourself that if you had it your way there would be no christianity. You want force people to believe what you want them to believe. But it's the christians fault, right brah.

[Proxy]

Get over yourself, you aren't all knowing and don't have the RIGHT to decide "when" someone becomes a human. Take your abortion tools and stay out of the human development process thanks.

No, I'm not all knowing. That would be the scientists that found these things out, if anyone, and their knowledge is limited in comparison to everything there is to know. Please, stop talking about things you don't know about. Thanks.

[Proxy]

I don't hate athiests. I'm not the one going to .

*whispers*

No such thing as an afterlife, brah

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You said yourself that if you had it your way there would be no christianity. You want force people to believe what you want them to believe. But it's the christians fault, right brah.

what? I never said anything about forcing anything on people. You're the only one doing that. When I say, "if I had it my way" it seems pretty obvious that I'm referring to how I would want things, not what I think should be done.

At least you're admitting that you want to force your beliefs on gay people. Step in the right direction imo.