Why are athiests so hated in the USA?

[101A]

Look at Santorum. Now, I realize the guy would never win a general election, I am not dense. But this is the person that best represents the interests of so many Americans?!

It has nothing to do with Santorum and EVERYTHING to do with his opponents; if Rubio/Christie/or Jeb got in; they'd be ordained the candidate. None thump bibles.

I can't see myself voting for any of the remaining Republican candidates.

[johnsmith]

Actually I am quite okay but thanks for caring.

As for insulting the likes of WC and Darrin, I honestly believe that Darrin is a disgusting ing liar. I am not mincing words. He literally has lied to us about where he got things from in order to present his position.

I literally think that WC is a moron. As in his IQ is very low. I have watched him repeat and try to figure things out for quite some time to reach that conclusion.

When in these arguments, they simply ignore rebuttals and then turn around and repeat the same exact , I admit it makes me mad so I go off a bit. Sorry if that bothers you. They really bother me.

Its not like I talk to everyone as such far from it but if you keep saying lies and stupid then you get that side of me. Sorry.

Hey, like I said, it doesn't bother me a bit....I'm just sayin' you seem genuinely angry on this site......

And I'm sure you're not, it just seems that way when all one can do is read someone on a message board.

[johnsmith]

Faith is faking it if what you have faith in is not true at the end of the day.

So are all Christians faking it?

[101A]

Simply put; Youre either on Team Jesus or youre Team Notachance. That is pathetic.

You certainly have a point there - in fact I think, ironically, it's one of the reasons Romney is having so much trouble locking up a sure thing. Many Christians don't think Mormons ought to be in the club.

I have issues with it, frankly - and not because he doesn't believe what I believe, but because if he DOES believe the book of Mormon, then he believes there are other people on this planet who can take away his ability to get into heaven (by excommunicating him from the LDS).

[Blake]

I don't think he's a bigot.

I've never seen him communicate in that manner either.

Since 101A condescendingly let me know my communication skills suck, I hope he clarifies how he arrived at such a conclusion.

[101A]

I've never seen him communicate in that manner either.

Since 101A condescendingly let me know my communication skills suck, I hope he clarifies how he arrived at such a conclusion.

What is the word you use to describe a person who makes blanket assumptions about the intelligence/wisdom of a specific group of people?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So are all Christians faking it?

I do not have ESP so i cannot tell what others are thing and as such I will not make comments as to that.

Do I think that some Christian's know damn well what they are professing is not true but do it anyway for social acceptance or whatever self-interest they desire then I say certainly especially in politics.

I do not think that everyone of them is like that though. That is equally absurd as the opposite.

Doubt and how to deal with it is quite formalized but really when it comes down to it. It becomes a semantic argument at that point.

Now Paul and the various priest classes throughout antiquity that made this up I do believe they were faking it. Moses and the burning bush and whatnot. Its hokey nonsense if he actually came off of Mt Sinai. And told his people that.

I have seen far too many people lie to try and justify some authority in themselves to think otherwise.

[johnsmith]

The reason CB isn't a bigot is because after reading his posts for many years on this site now, most everyone can come to the conclusion and see that he's a pretty good dude and comes here specifically to with people and entertain himself.

He's not on this site because he thinks it makes a difference (I'm looking at you Dan), and he's not on this site because he's mad at the world and needs a forum (see Boutons), he's on the site because he gets a kick out of pissing people off that get so mad at him they end up calling him a bigot.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hes making an assumption about you and not a group of people. You are no martyr, bucko.

[clambake]

101 thinks i have no idea about religion.

i guess its because i'm from n. ireland.

surely a country of such religious infancy would have a better grasp.

[johnsmith]

I do not have ESP so i cannot tell what others are thing and as such I will not make comments as to that.

Do I think that some Christian's know damn well what they are professing is not true but do it anyway for social acceptance or whatever self-interest they desire then I say certainly especially in politics.

I do not think that everyone of them is like that though. That is equally absurd as the opposite.

Doubt and how to deal with it is quite formalized but really when it comes down to it. It becomes a semantic argument at that point.

Now Paul and the various priest classes throughout antiquity that made this up I do believe they were faking it. Moses and the burning bush and whatnot. Its hokey nonsense if he actually came off of Mt Sinai. And told his people that.

I have seen far too many people lie to try and justify some authority in themselves to think otherwise.

I agree whole heartedly with you Fuzzy, and well put.

The comment was made "because they don't pretend to believe in God" and that comment was speaking directly to the thread le......so really, I believe that dude (Herman) is specifically saying that all Christians are faking it.

And contrary to what has become popular belief, there are some of us that still believe in God and do our best to try to live an honest and morally acceptable fashion because of that.......we don't always succeed, but most of us are good people.

Unfortunately, none of us are in Washington DC.

[101A]

101 thinks i have no idea about religion.

i guess its because i'm from n. ireland.

surely a country of such religious infancy would have a better grasp.

I hate the irish; they're all stupid /bigot.

You made a crack relative to believers being infantile; I always respond by calling the people saying such things bigots. It's an ironic insult; and effective. No offense.

[clambake]

think about what dr is saying. the white house, this very minute, is pandering to a religion known for the rape of children......under the protection of that hooded freak at the vatican.

[clambake]

I hate the irish; they're all stupid /bigot.

You made a crack relative to believers being infantile; I always respond by calling the people saying such things bigots. It's an ironic insult; and effective. No offense.

"do you need it written in crayon?"

since it came from you, all i said was "it's delicious"

and it still is.

[101A]

think about what dr is saying. the white house, this very minute, is pandering to a religion known for the rape of children......under the protection of that hooded freak at the vatican.

I don't think Penn State fans are all up in arms about the healthcare bill?

"Democracy is the worst form of Government, except all the others" - some dead guy.

[clambake]

I don't think Penn State fans are all up in arms about the healthcare bill?

"Democracy is the worst form of Government, except all the others" - some dead guy.

so, that makes it ok.

thats delicious

[Blake]

.

Ah, I see your backpedaling apology to him.

[101A]

so, that makes it ok.

thats delicious

What's OK?

It is what it is. What and why people believe what they believe is something we cannot control.

Liberals believe a safety net, and social programs are appropriate and effective methods of battling poverty despite decades and trillions of dollars of evidence to the contrary. They so want it to be so, they have faith that it ought to be so, the fact that it IS NOT SO won't change their minds.

THAT is not OK, but there's nothing I can do about it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have issues with it, frankly - and not because he doesn't believe what I believe, but because if he DOES believe the book of Mormon, then he believes there are other people on this planet who can take away his ability to get into heaven (by excommunicating him from the LDS).

This is where I see the largest logical disconnect in 'believers.' You can point them to all the hokey about flying elephants or getting your own planet in other religions and it is easy for the believer to identify the absurdity.

Contrast that with equally hokey in their own religions like virgin births and holy ghosts and that gets a pass. its asinine.

[clambake]

This is where I see the largest logical disconnect in 'believers.' You can point them to all the hokey about flying elephants or getting your own planet in other religions and it is easy for the believer to identify the absurdity.

Contrast that with equally hokey in their own religions like virgin births and holy ghosts and that gets a pass. its asinine.

101 can't see this.

[clambake]

What's OK?

It is what it is. What and why people believe what they believe is something we cannot control.

Liberals believe a safety net, and social programs are appropriate and effective methods of battling poverty despite decades and trillions of dollars of evidence to the contrary. They so want it to be so, they have faith that it ought to be so, the fact that it IS NOT SO won't change their minds.

THAT is not OK, but there's nothing I can do about it.

poverty is real. see the difference?

[Blake]

Ah, I see your backpedaling apology to him.

Now I see you backing out of the apology.

[101A]

This is where I see the largest logical disconnect in 'believers.' You can point them to all the hokey about flying elephants or getting your own planet in other religions and it is easy for the believer to identify the absurdity.

Contrast that with equally hokey in their own religions like virgin births and holy ghosts and that gets a pass. its asinine.

You misunderstood what I posted.

It is not a fear that he believes; it is specifically a Mormon belief that if excommunicated, they don't get to go to Heaven. Meaning, if Romney is faced with a choice, as president, that runs counter to his faith, so much so that the Mormon church might excommunicate him - then actual flesh and blood human beings (in the President's eyes mind you) hold ETERNAL SALVATION hostage to our president. Catholics don't hold that excommunication = ; it is unique to Mormons. The fact that I don't think it's true is irrelevant, and there is nothing supernatural about my concern; it's all from the perspective of Romney.

I'm not saying the belief is absurd - it is potentially dangerous.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What's OK?

It is what it is. What and why people believe what they believe is something we cannot control.

Actually it is something very much so you can control and control in others. that you do not see that speaks only of you and not of others.

[101A]

poverty is real. see the difference?

No.

My post wasn't about poverty.