What is Tim Duncan's religion?

[all_heart]

So you follow the guidance of a short-tempered, profanity-speaking narcissist?

You should know more than anybody that it's called being sarcastic.

[ElNono]

And Tolkien was a Christian, but that's probably you just being ironic since he had to be Christian to make up fairy tales - right? I hope others don't disrespect your beliefs like you disrespect others'.

Man made is man made. Would quoting a novel by a Muslim make any difference?

And you're being disrespectful by calling my belief a fairy tale. I hope others don't disrespect your beliefs like you disrespect others...

[all_heart]

You're free to differentiate the validity between talking to sky people and dogs. tmtcsc and all_heart have failed so far. Care to take a shot? Or are you another name-calling Christian?

Dude we all get it, you need hard proof. I guess I'm lucky that I don't need the burden of proof to have my Faith. You still avoid my questions ^^ so I can only guess what your experiences or lack thereof are..

[Magua]

Dude we all get it, you need hard proof. I guess I'm lucky that I don't need the burden of proof to have my Faith. You still avoid my questions ^^ so I can only guess what your experiences or lack thereof are..

I answered your 2 questions (yes, and yes).

You, like your Christian brethren, conveniently ignored the SOS dilemma.

We get it dude, you need hard proof that dogs can give orders to humans. I'm lucky that I don't need the burden of proof to have my Faith.


See how easy that was?

[underdawg]

Man made is man made. Would quoting a novel by a Muslim make any difference?

And you're being disrespectful by calling my belief a fairy tale. I hope others don't disrespect your beliefs like you disrespect others...

I'm sorry - I was just quoting Tolkien; I aplogize if you didn't know that he entended his books to be fiction.

As far as I'm concerned, you can believe whatever you believe and if you're a citizen of the US that's your right.

[underdawg]

Man made is man made. Would quoting a novel by a Muslim make any difference?

And you're being disrespectful by calling my belief a fairy tale. I hope others don't disrespect your beliefs like you disrespect others...

and no, quoting a fictional work by a Muslim would be just as ironic and no more or less.

[underdawg]

You're free to differentiate the validity between talking to sky people and dogs. tmtcsc and all_heart have failed so far. Care to take a shot? Or are you another name-calling Christian?

what are sky people?

[ElNono]

I'm sorry - I was just quoting Tolkien; I aplogize if you didn't know that he entended his books to be fiction.

As far as I'm concerned, you can believe whatever you believe and if you're a citizen of the US that's your right.

How do you know what Tolkien intended? How do you know whoever wrote the bible intended?

Anyways, that spaghetti dude in the sky told me to make this post and stop posting in this thread, so it shall be. You don't have to understand.

[underdawg]

How do you know what Tolkien intended? How do you know whoever wrote the bible intended?

Anyways, that spaghetti dude in the sky told me to make this post and stop posting in this thread, so it shall be. You don't have to understand.

Because that's what he said - if you have proof that he had other motives, please provide them. I'd hate to think that you would make something up just to attack someone elses beliefs. That would be dishonest and cruel no matter what you believe - right?

[ElNono]

Now you want proof

That's rich

[all_heart]

I answered your 2 questions (yes, and yes).

You, like your Christian brethren, conveniently ignored the SOS dilemma.

We get it dude, you need hard proof that dogs can give orders to humans. I'm lucky that I don't need the burden of proof to have my Faith.


See how easy that was?

No I don't see where you answered my questions. What's with you and SOS, is that what your learning about this week? This SOS BS is meaningless to me and if you can read, I already answered that at least 2 times.

What is so easy? Flipping words around.. yes I guess it is easy for you. congrats.

[underdawg]

Now you want proof

That's rich

It was supposed to be - thought you would get that Nono

[ElNono]

It was supposed to be - thought you would get that Nono

I noticed the hypocrisy

[pgardn]

The difference is I got Faith, you got faith. I've prayed and listened to the Word and have believed in my heart that to be true. Have you ever prayed? Has anybody ever taught you about God? I've already said I believe in science there is nothing wrong with most science. I also believe God has made this possible. Have you ever studied genetics? The structure of DNA and the way it works is amazing and for me it reaffirms it was God's hand that put it all together for us to figure out. I also believe NOBODY is perfect whatever it is you believe in or don't believe. Do you believe in truly evil people? If so, then you must believe in the opposite as well.

You look at DNA and the way it works and it requires God's hand? Why in the world would God put partial viral DNA sequences, pseudo genes, and the information to make a back that is totally silly for an upright animal? Its more like the hand of a child. I do not try to look for God's intentions in cells.

Why is it that people always try to mix two human endeavors (religion and science) that are so different in their methods to prove something to make them comfortable? Does it not feel like a lie?

Please for the sake of religion and science understand and respect their differences. For me part of the definition of evil would be purposeful misrepresentation of how we come to believe in certain ideas, both rational and supernatural.

[all_heart]

You look at DNA and the way it works and it requires God's hand? Why in the world would God put partial viral DNA sequences, pseudo genes, and the information to make a back that is totally silly for an upright animal? Its more like the hand of a child. I do not try to look for God's intentions in cells.

Why is it that people always try to mix two human endeavors (religion and science) that are so different in their methods to prove something to make them comfortable? Does it not feel like a lie?

Please for the sake of religion and science understand and respect their differences. For me part of the definition of evil would be purposeful misrepresentation of how we come to believe in certain ideas, both rational and supernatural.

Oh pleeeeezzz, nothing I said was evil or could be interpreted as evil my most sane people.

BTW, some geneticists have made some similar comments to what I posted. Hand of a child? You mad cause you were born with elephant ears or a horses ass.. if anything the latter...

[pgardn]

Oh pleeeeezzz, nothing I said was evil or could be interpreted as evil my most sane people.

BTW, some geneticists have made some similar comments to what I posted. Hand of a child? You mad cause you were born with elephant ears or a horses ass.. if anything the latter...

Thats what I thought.

It seems on the surface like another fake who feels he has delved deeply into faith.

And the name calling, exactly what was to be despised by the holy. The contradictions never stop with people who profess not to be perfect but then feel they can find perfection.

And no, I cannot say how God will feel about your disingenuous arguments. I can actually say, "I dont know". You should try it.

[all_heart]

Thats what I thought.

It seems on the surface like another fake who feels he has delved deeply into faith.

And the name calling, exactly what was to be despised by the holy. The contradictions never stop with people who profess not to be perfect but then feel they can find perfection.

And no, I cannot say how God will feel about your disingenuous arguments. I can actually say, "I dont know". You should try it.

Oh looky here... apparently I fell into your little trap and now you get to stand up and point the finger at me calling me a hypocrite and fake.

First of all if I truly offended you, I'm sorry, it's been that kind of night here on ST.

Secondly, I don't know where you get your information, but people of Faith don't profess to be perfect or will find perfection. We all falter, but getting back up and going in the right direction is all that we can do. Anybody who tells you they are perfect cause they believe in God is BS. That is self-explanatory and you know this, so don't try to twist it all up for your argument.

Lastly: Name calling? You pretty much labeled me as evil with your last post, now that's offensive, cause even though I'm no saint, I'm not evil either.

As far as the science/God thing goes.. yea I don't know but obviously I believe He knows since he's God the Creator - the Alpha and the Omega. It's not my position to 2nd guess what he's done.

I'm off to bed, with any luck this thread will be deleted or locked by tomorrow. Hopefully nobody has any nightmares about SOS dog biting them in their ass or anything...
Adios and vaya con Dios.

[TampaDude]

The God is a lie.

[Proxy]

Oh pleeeeezzz, nothing I said was evil or could be interpreted as evil my most sane people.

BTW, some geneticists have made some similar comments to what I posted. Hand of a child? You mad cause you were born with elephant ears or a horses ass.. if anything the latter...

You're terrified of admitting you're mortal and that your life means nothing other than reproducing in the grand scheme. You're unable to comprehend the universe for what it is and what it is not. Ironically, evolution has given you the ability to comprehend pattern to the point of supers ion which has resulted in dogma.... under the comfort in thinking you are immortal.

You are not immortal.

[Proxy]

The God is a lie.

let them eat cake

[redzero]

Dude we all get it, you need hard proof. I guess I'm lucky that I don't need the burden of proof to have my Faith. You still avoid my questions ^^ so I can only guess what your experiences or lack thereof are..

I wouldn't call being dumb enough to believe something for no logical reason being "lucky."

[pgardn]

Oh looky here... apparently I fell into your little trap and now you get to stand up and point the finger at me calling me a hypocrite and fake.

First of all if I truly offended you, I'm sorry, it's been that kind of night here on ST.

Secondly, I don't know where you get your information, but people of Faith don't profess to be perfect or will find perfection. We all falter, but getting back up and going in the right direction is all that we can do. Anybody who tells you they are perfect cause they believe in God is BS. That is self-explanatory and you know this, so don't try to twist it all up for your argument.

Lastly: Name calling? You pretty much labeled me as evil with your last post, now that's offensive, cause even though I'm no saint, I'm not evil either.

As far as the science/God thing goes.. yea I don't know but obviously I believe He knows since he's God the Creator - the Alpha and the Omega. It's not my position to 2nd guess what he's done.

I'm off to bed, with any luck this thread will be deleted or locked by tomorrow. Hopefully nobody has any nightmares about SOS dog biting them in their ass or anything...
Adios and vaya con Dios.

I am not attempting to change your mind or twist anything.

I am calling it like I see it. You get to pick and choose where you find evidence of God's handywork or signs of his perfection. Thats fine. Natural disasters, horrible accidents, etc... and people are not supposed to question God's work or he works in mysterious ways. So people will look for his grandness inside genetic material. And I call BS because I see imperfection. But the dogma of perfection is used to trample on people who really take a close look and say wait a minute and question the perfection... then the labeling of heathen usually proceeds (you did not do this to your credit).

Seems to me this rather random choosing of where one finds God's work and then criticizing people who look closely and question the label is disingenuous. And yes you are right, other "geneticists" have also done this and have been similarly called out. We are only human. Just because we get a better understanding of how something intriguing works, does not necessarily mean we understand God better.

Sorry if I got personal. It is of course your personal choice on where you choose to find God. But a good I dont know, or an ok, maybe this example is not all that clear, is the honest way.

[underdawg]

I am not attempting to change your mind or twist anything.

I am calling it like I see it. You get to pick and choose where you find evidence of God's handywork or signs of his perfection. Thats fine. Natural disasters, horrible accidents, etc... and people are not supposed to question God's work or he works in mysterious ways. So people will look for his grandness inside genetic material. And I call BS because I see imperfection. But the dogma of perfection is used to trample on people who really take a close look and say wait a minute and question the perfection... then the labeling of heathen usually proceeds (you did not do this to your credit).

Seems to me this rather random choosing of where one finds God's work and then criticizing people who look closely and question the label is disingenuous. And yes you are right, other "geneticists" have also done this and have been similarly called out. We are only human. Just because we get a better understanding of how something intriguing works, does not necessarily mean we understand God better.

Sorry if I got personal. It is of course your personal choice on where you choose to find God. But a good I dont know, or an ok, maybe this example is not all that clear, is the honest way.

There has to be imperfection in God's creation for him to be realized and glorified (John 9:2-3). Man's free will has a lot to do with the imperfection of this world - God allows it so that he can use evil to bring about good in the overall picture. This doesn't make God evil or imperfect - only he knows the outcome and the greater good that comes out of it.

[underdawg]

I wouldn't call being dumb enough to believe something for no logical reason being "lucky."

calling someone stupid because they believe a certain way different from your own is certainly bigoted.

[Blake]

This says a lot:

Proverbs 3:5-7

Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil.

What's God going to do if you don't fear him?