God favors the Faithful who believe in Him. Sorry it's so difficult for you to understand, were you expecting a Wiki page to lay it all out for you? j/k Truthfully, the Bible can be difficult to follow sometimes, they do have versions that are easier to read, it helps.
Word? You mean the stuff Jesus didn't write 2000 years ago?
Lol what a blind person you are....Jesus is disappointed in you blindly following and not searching for the truth....mostly your parents fault for brainwashing you. God bless you and your family though
Uh? You mean randomness?
see what?
Rational people say I don't know (yet). Saying its X's will when you don't know if it's X's will at all (you don't even know if X exists at all) it's a pretty irrational proposition. You can replace X with god, the flying spaghetti monster, frodo, etc.
All that said, everyone is en led to be as rational/irrational as they wish to be.
Well... the theists and atheists both have brought my IQ down just reading these posts.
Here you go:
The universe can't exist without some kind of creator (first law of thermodyanics, mathematical impossibility of an infinite past while in the present). To determine what the creator is or is like requires a great deal of faith since we can only know factually what exists within our own universe. Saying that a god can't or doesn't exist is mathematical ignorance.
The bible is a mess as well, and the quicker you accept that the better. It teaches a lot of really good stuff... and then it also teaches about religious abortions by the priest in Numbers. So it's a hodge podge of good versus unacceptable, with mostly good in the New Testament. And yes, I have a degree in biblical studies.
Have fun,
BL
Stoooooooooooooooooooooooooops!!!!
Oh brother, who said I'm blindly following. I feel sorry for your parents having to put up with you. I'm blessed to have parents introduce me to God. Are your parents believers of God?
I don't think people are dumb for believing in white man in the sky god tbh. I mean, it's a huge and sophisticated con-job that begins in childhood when people are more apt to respect and pay attention to figures of authority. When someone gets cheated, you don't blame the victim; you blame the swindlers.
You're actually referring to YHWH, or the Judeo/Christian God. I doubt you would feel blessed if it were Allah or Gaia (with your current beliefs). It's important to remember there is a difference between believing in God and being a Christian. The two are not the same.Oh brother, who said I'm blindly following. I feel sorry for your parents having to put up with you. I'm blessed to have parents introduce me to God. Are your parents believers of God?
Also, both of you are just getting into personal attacks rather than debating anything meaningful. It's a game of pissing farther rather than teaching either person a damn thing.
Have fun with that,
BL
This is also foolish in that the "cheated" (believers according to you), are also the "swindlers" (teachers according to you), since the believers teach what they are taught. This is the same as you teaching what you believe.I don't think people are dumb for believing in god tbh. I mean, it's a huge and sophisticated con-job that begins in childhood when people are more apt to respect and pay attention to figures of authority. When someone gets cheated, you don't blame the victim; you blame the swindlers.
As I said, the IQ was dropping reading some of this stuff before.
BL
Biblical studies boy gotta defend his tool of fear. Fight on Christian soldier.
Do you believe in his word just because it is rational? And his word has magic and stupid actions in it, so I don't find it rational.
What does it matter? How come when you make excuses for dumb aspects of your religion, but I can't make excuses for the invisible pink unicorn?
Blue Lightning several posts earlier:
Good job, asswipe. Just accept that your previous statement was a pile of steaming, ignorant . That way you can clean it up and avoid making a mess again =)
It's called "learning" and it's a process we all have to do,
BL
You still don't understand what I'm saying, I'm guessing you can't cause you don't see where I'm coming from.Uh? You mean randomness?
Rational people say I don't know (yet). Saying its X's will when you don't know if it's X's will at all (you don't even know if X exists at all) it's a pretty irrational proposition. You can replace X with god, the flying spaghetti monster, frodo, etc.
All that said, everyone is en led to be as rational/irrational as they wish to be.
BTW all this X stuff you are talking about is done everyday by a lot of people, including mathematicians and scientists. Sometimes it leads to something, sometimes it doesn't.
Obviously I'm not going to sway your opinion and you are definitely not going to change mine...
He does know what you're talking about it and he has a really good point. You need to be able to defend your beliefs better. And that "x stuff," well, that's called math.
If he can't change your beliefs, then you're no better than an ignorant piece of dirt. Intelligent people can adjust their beliefs if they see they are wrong. Wise people know that they are not above being wrong. You're not omniscient, chief. And if you can't sway his opinion, then your's must not be all that impressive.
Maybe it's because you guys are high schoolers... I don't know, but yeesh you should both be able to do better than this.
BL
What?
Doubt your IQ went much lower after posting stuff like that, tbh
Nono man, bible boy needs you to do more "learning".
Thomas Aquinas up his gay ass.
Prepare for an intellectual can of whoop ass in...
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The first law of thermodynamics says energy can neither be created nor destroyed. That means the universe cannot be self-generated. The universe also cannot have existed forever as that would mean it has an infinite past. If it has an infinite past, then how did we arrive in the present? That would be like you saying you ran an infinite amount of miles to go to the grocery store. "No you didn't." You can't travel an infinite amount of space nor time as that would mean it wasn't infinite in the first place. So the fact that we live in the present means the past cannot be infinite.
Therefore, since the universe cannot be self-generated, and since it can't have existed forever, that leaves us with one option. The universe was created by an outside source. What do we call something that creates? We call it a creator. Now whether the creator is YHWH or made of pasta is up to your own faith to decide (or lack thereof)... but the fact that it exists(ed) is undeniable.
Have fun,
BL
So you've become a cheerleader now? I guess that's what happens when you immediately realize you're waaaaay out of your league.
You do know that atheists hold biblical degrees as well, right? Not all biblical scholars are believers. You did know that right? Right?
BL
Does the creator have an infinite pass?
LOL butthurt christian soldier playing physicist.
I believe in John 3:16.. you know that one? And since I believe that I believe Jesus when he says: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
You may never understand that or care to understand that. Hope I'm wrong but if I'm not...sorry that's the path you've chosen for yourself.
You don't choose whether to believe in something. I can't choose to believe the grass is blue or the sky green.
I'm assuming you mean "past." The answer to that question is that the creator must be outside our universe in order to be outside the first law of thermodynamics. Now since time is a part of our universe, we can't be sure that it exists outside of it, and if it does what it's like. So, there may not be a "past" for the creator to have. Then again their may be. Maybe the creator was created by another creator and another creator, etc. Who knows? Faith can tell you what the creator is like (outside of revelation, according to those who believe it), but we really don't have any concrete information on the multiverse, if it exists, what's there, or what the creator is.Does the creator have an infinite pass?
Good question,
BL
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