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    Wow, lots of DG lovers in here. Personally I really don't like Danny Green. Any NBA player who misses as many chip shots as he does, doesn't belong in the league, IMO.

    He's practically a rookie, this is his first year actually getting playing time in the NBA against NBA level compe ion, he WILL improve offensively and defensively. Plus he's only 24, he's cheap as , plays defense and can shoot the 3.

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    Not to defend Josh Howard... but Green is not that good. Some of you need to take your homer goggles off and see him for what he is: inconsistent and has the ability to go on turnover streaks.
    I'm not a fan of Danny Green either, but I would rather have him than Josh Howard. At least Green doesn't have character issues and is much cheaper to have. Howard and Jefferson on the same team is asking for a disaster.

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    If we're going after Howard while trading Green, RJ has to been on the move in another deal or something

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    Not hung up on Green. Bit piece, playing well. Good energy.

    As previously said multiple times, this trade doesn't make sense as stated.

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    Here's how it might make sense for Peter Holt:


    Spurs Get
    Josh Howard

    T'Wolves Get
    CJ Miles
    TJ Ford
    Jamaal Tinsley

    Jazz Get
    Danny Green
    James Anderson
    Wayne Ellington
    Anthony Tolliver

    If my math is right, the Spurs would save about $1 million.

    The Jazz get some swingman options and the T'Wolves dump Ellington's contract.

    Still doesn't make much sense but if Pop no longer likes Green and the Jazz like him, it could be a way to save some money.

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    I'm not a fan of Danny Green either, but I would rather have him than Josh Howard. At least Green doesn't have character issues and is much cheaper to have. Howard and Jefferson on the same team is asking for a disaster.
    That's the whole point right there. Josh Howard, while once a very good player and borderline all-star, has devolved into a 7-year veteran dog, with low-character issues.

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    RJ/Green for Darko/Howard and a pick? (didn't check if the salaries work)

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    Maybe the "other shoe" is RJ into the Utah TE? They are getting rid of their only NBA caliber SF trading JHo away...

    Or, RJ for Devn Harris?

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    This is what happens at Spurstalk. Last year, they couldn't get enough of Anderson. Green is the "new" Anderson. He really isn't that good although I think some fans woud like to see him retained just so they can use him as a scapegoat for the next year or two. He's a marginal player at best, a dime a dozen around the NBA.

    Anderson was playing very well for a rookie in the beginning of last year, of course Spurs fans loved him. It's pretty damn obvious the injury has changed his level of play like the same injury has affected so many others.


    Howard has already peaked as an NBA player long ago and it looks like he's done and is on the decline. Green is 24, it's his first year ever getting playing time in the NBA so he's practically a rookie. Green is bound to get better offensively and defensively. He's got good work ethic, a good at ude (unlike Howard), he's cheap as well.

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    Here's how it might make sense for Peter Holt:


    Spurs Get
    Josh Howard

    T'Wolves Get
    CJ Miles
    TJ Ford
    Jamaal Tinsley

    Jazz Get
    Danny Green
    James Anderson
    Wayne Ellington
    Anthony Tolliver

    If my math is right, the Spurs would save about $1 million.

    The Jazz get some swingman options and the T'Wolves dump Ellington's contract.

    Still doesn't make much sense but if Pop no longer likes Green and the Jazz like him, it could be a way to save some money.
    But do they really have to get rid of Green to dump Anderson? I can't imagine. And why wouldn't Pop like Green? He seems like the exact type Pop would like, plus we haven't heard of any sort of rift between the two. I know that doesn't necessarily mean there hasn't been one, but it's seemingly unlikely.

    Maybe this is about not wanting to pay Green this summer? If it is, that's ridiculous. It's not like he's going to break the bank and presuming Jefferson is amnestied, that coupled with Duncan inevitably taking a massive pay cut would make re-signing him all the more digestible.

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    Probably false. As much have stated, its difficult to figure out the motivation from the Spurs behind this decision.

    Maybe Manu's injury adds urgency to add another scorer on the wing? And we're only giving up Danny Green for Josh Howard so there could be some traction there.

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    Green for Howard is a downgrade!

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    Howard has had success in the playoffs. Danny Green hasn't. If the Spurs want to win now, and if Howard has anything left in the tank, and if Timmy can re-energize his fellow Demon Deacon, this trade could make sense. Yes, I realize that's a lot of ifs.

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    Howard has had success in the playoffs. Danny Green hasn't. If the Spurs want to win now, and if Howard has anything left in the tank, and if Timmy can re-energize his fellow Demon Deacon, this trade could make sense. Yes, I realize that's a lot of ifs.
    I wouldn't expect it. It appears that injuries have robbed Howard of the explosive first step he once had. He'll surely hang around the NBA for a few more years, but sadly it seems that his best days are clearly behind him. It's hard to believe the Spurs were ever interested in him this summer, at all.

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    I think we are in a tough position but I would love to think that we are considering trading up for a center and backup point guard. All this crap about Josh Howard I'm more than sure that is what the Jazz want not us. But we I've to listen and revise every possible trade. Now if it's true we get Josh Howard, hey listen, anyone that goes from a team that's struggles they change how they play when they come to a contender. So why hate on a trade where both players are disposable. Just my take. But like I said, I hope we're looking for a center and pg at this point.

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    If there is any truth to this there has to be a big involved that isn't mentioned. I highly doubt this though.

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    well this changes everything

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    Josh Howard? Lmao

    Spurs FO cannot be this stupid.

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    If my math is right, the Spurs would save about $1 million.
    Howard makes $2,150,000.

    Anderson makes $1,463,520. Ford and Anderson both make $854,389.

    So that's a savings of $1,022,298. Multiply that by two to account for the luxury tax savings and we're at $2,044,596.

    But then the Spurs would be down to 11 players. They'd probably have to sign a fifth bigman and a replacement for Ford, which would eat up a chunk of that room they just saved.

    ............seems like a lot of effort to not save that much money, tbh.

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    Spurs need a backup PG and a shot-blocker.

    Enter: Josh Howard

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    It's all smoke screen. We're really getting Millsap.

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    But do they really have to get rid of Green to dump Anderson? I can't imagine.
    The Spurs could (and should) just include him in a trade with cash to get him off the books.

    And why wouldn't Pop like Green?
    No idea.

    Maybe this is about not wanting to pay Green this summer?
    Good thought. Although at this point nobody really knows if Green is going to command $4 million or a minimum salary. How he plays the rest of the way will determine that. If he continues to spiral downward, he could be had for a partially guaranteed contract.

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    Manu is falling apart before our very eyes.

    Solution: Downgrade at backup SG.

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    you have 2 of the 3 teams in the jazz and twolves overflowed with bigs and all they are doing is swapping wingmen. has to be fake.

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    Not to mention this gem

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