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    The biggest value in this trade is SJax's expiring contract. If he plays great and provides insurance for a Manu injury that's gravy. Yet with the expiring contract the Spurs get more flexibility to make deals and address their frontcourt issues.
    Why does everyone keep saying he's expiring? He's on board for next season

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    A very nice trade for us. Financially it's great, 1 year shorter 11M contract is excellent. On basketball wise, it depends. RJ was a better 3 pointer, but S-Jax is proven in play-offs. S-Jax was bad this year, because he was unhappy in his team and was wishing to play. He's hungry. He will be 34 next month, but he's not too old than Kobe Bryant. If his physical shape is good, he will help us.

    If he can't help too much, there's also consolotion: We have acquired an expiring contract for next year, and we can pull the trigger again in next year's trade deadline.

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    Wait, so Coyotes Geek, you think Jax is gonna be a high volume shooter in the Spurs system? I agree with Timvp's take. He's not a saviour but he does have testis! The front court is still a major concern but I even think Stephen Jackson can help in guarding Kobe Bryant or Kevin Durant with his length.

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    Look, we saw what a difference RJ made when he decided to actually do something besides spot up. When he drove and looked to create or get to the rim he actually made the team look much better. With Jax, you get that on a regular basis and he's a better passer/ball handler to boot. So no longer will that be the exception, but the norm.

    I don't care how many Jax misses (to a certain degree obviously), I care that he will not be punked and I care about having another guy the people in the locker room trust. It could breath new life into the team as I've compared RJ to a sickness that doesn't seem to be serious so you never go to the doctor; you just never feel fully healthy.

    I'm not expecting any major step forward, but this will force a better defensive unit from Pop and I will enjoy watching them much, much more. I'm going on record saying Jax will make the team better basketball wise and it will be noticeable.

    Having said that, if the Spurs don't land a big man, the point is somewhat moot, although the Spurs are better now than before so hard to complain if people liked their chances as all before with RJ.
    Good post.

    This trade doesn't make the Spurs a true championship contender or anything. They are still a longshot until they solve their bigmen/defense issues. But the upside they gained is undeniable. Their ceiling is higher with SJax than it is with RJ ... I don't think that's even debatable.

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    According to Hollinger's numbers in the trade machine, the Spurs win one less regular season game with Jack instead of RJ. Considering the nosedive that RJ takes at the end of March, that's a really good deal for the Spurs.


    BTW, some of you need to remember that Jack has been the first option on a lot of his teams since he left the Spurs. He now becomes the fourth option, which should free him up.

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    The few times I've seen S-Jax this season he looked slow as , very rarely I saw him attack the basket and when he did they were Paul Pierce kind of attacks without the whistle to bail him out.

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    The few times I've seen S-Jax this season he looked slow as , very rarely I saw him attack the basket and when he did they were Paul Pierce kind of attacks without the whistle to bail him out.
    Did you catch this game?
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore...gid=2012011015

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    The few times I've seen RJ this season he looked slow as , very rarely I saw him attack the basket and when he did they were Paul Pierce kind of attacks without the whistle to bail him out.

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    So is in the first round pick for this year, or any draft in the next few years?

    I think Spurs could still acquire a late first rounder with Blair anyways(if there able to trade him).

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    I've compared RJ to a sickness that doesn't seem to be serious so you never go to the doctor; you just never feel fully healthy.
    A really good description of the situation.

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    To be honest, if as a player you're longing to play for a certain team, there's no better way to grab their attention than to on them whenever you play them.

    That's exactly what SJax did.

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    You said in the few times that you've seen him, he looked horrible. So I was just asking if you missed the Spurs game. Either you missed the game, or you are exaggerating to make your point.

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    You can't say this:

    The few times I've seen S-Jax
    and then pull the sample size card

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    Why does everyone keep saying he's expiring? He's on board for next season
    He's expiring in the summer of 2013, when the FA class is quite good. And he could be traded at any point between now and then, if it turned out it's not working for SA, to any team looking to make an impact in the FA market in 2013.

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    You can't say this:



    and then pull the sample size card
    Few > One

    Either way, it's not just from this season.

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    You said in the few times that you've seen him, he looked horrible. So I was just asking if you missed the Spurs game. Either you missed the game, or you are exaggerating to make your point.
    Yes, I missed that game.

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    A motivated SJax plays against the Spurs this year and puts up 34 points and 8 assists. So all he was lacking is motivation? Well, now he's back at a place that he wants to play at and judging from his tweets, he seems really hyped about it.

    It's going to be great.

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    So the few times you saw him this season is enough of a sample size?

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    So the few times you saw him this season is enough of a sample size?
    The stats don't scream "playmaker" either.

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    Yes, I missed that game.
    Cool.

    I have seen him play a handful of times this year. Twice he looked really good, twice he looked horrendous, and once he looked okay. I'm guessing that's probably how he'll be in San Antonio..up and down. But at least you know when the playoffs roll around and the bright lights come on, he'll be making love to pressure.

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    Either way, it's not just from this season.
    Pretty sure that's not what you put in the post. Keep your story straight brah.

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    He's a high volume, low percentage shot chucker who's never afraid to take a big shot and will occasionally hit them. He'll also occasionally shoot his team's way out of a win by going 4-18. He does the latter more frequently than the former.
    WTF?

    Not even Parker averages 18 FGA on the Spurs. Get real. Pop will yank him out of the game if he starts to take half as many shots as that. This is Parker's team now, and SJax won't even play 2nd fiddle simply because Pop trusts Duncan and Manu way more.

    Think of SJax more in a Kerr/Horry role and just chill.

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    Few > One

    Either way, it's not just from this season.
    Oh , why didn't you warn Pop Mr. Scout?

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    The stats don't scream "playmaker" either.
    Jesus guy, when it's a nice sunny day outside, do you run up to kids and yell "We all die some day and btw your dog didn't go to heaven."? I mean there's so much more positive than negative with this trade and you're content with being a bring down.

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