Trayvon Martin - black kid armed with skittles killed in "self-defense"

[Goran Dragic]

Dude... They don't get it... it's not about the color of the kid its about the costume...

CosmicCowboy just said it's about the color.

You see a black kid with a gun... and they will say are are racially profiling...never mind the fact that if you see a white kid with a gun you are going to act the same way...

Zimmerman didn't see a kid with a gun, he saw a kid with skittles.

Same deal with a hoody and ghetto clothes... walking around in a nice neighborhood... doesn't matter what color the dude is...

So wearing a hoody when it's raining outside is a problem? Do people in nice neighborhoods not wear hoodies

Read the Tweets... tell me if you don't think it is plausible that someone who had apparently bought into the hood rat lifestyle would be acting su ious...

Zimmerman had no knowledge of these tweets.


terms like "hoodrat lifestyle" and "ghetto clothes" are rarely used by non-racist people

[Wild Cobra]

I learned how to read a law and argue a case based on how the law was written. Not on how the drafters intended the law to read or to whom they intended it to apply. In this case, whether they want to acknowlege it or not, they drafted a law that prohibits law enforcement from arresting Zimmerman for the shooting of Martin based on a theory of self-defense, that the police accepted after taking the statement of an eye-witness.

This takes me back to wanting a requirement that laws have a purpose and scope, and that the black and white isn't used outside the stated intent.

[Fpoonsie]

disagree...Trayvon Martin's actions on the day he died may matter, but speculation about his character based on past behaviors doesn't...whether or not Trayvon Martin was a good kid or a bad one has more rhetorical than legal significance, by miles...

But what else are you left with, at this point? The kid's dead, and can't plead his case. The man under all this heat is claiming self-defense w/ regards to an altercation w/ a young person he deemed as "su ious." After that, there's just a bunch of conjecture.

[CosmicCowboy]

CosmicCowboy just said it's about the color.


Zimmerman didn't see a kid with a gun, he saw a kid with skittles.


So wearing a hoody when it's raining outside is a problem? Do people in nice neighborhoods not wear hoodies


Zimmerman had no knowledge of these tweets.


terms like "hoodrat lifestyle" and "ghetto clothes" are rarely used by non-racist people

Says the white punk walking around with his pants falling off trying desperately to be ghetto cool.

[Goran Dragic]

Sure, I understand their point. There is heavy political pressure and it looks bad for them to say otherwise. However, I had served as defense lawyer for criminals in the past. Although I no longer do this kind of work, I can speak freely without having to worry about my elected office.

Peaden is a former senator with no elected office he needs to worry about. Try again.

I learned how to read a law and argue a case based on how the law was written. Not on how the drafters intended the law to read or to whom they intended it to apply. In this case, whether they want to acknowlege it or not, they drafted a law that prohibits law enforcement from arresting Zimmerman for the shooting of Martin based on a theory of self-defense, that the police accepted after taking the statement of an eye-witness.

Arrest requires probable cause. What part of the law destroys any probable cause the police have?

[Fpoonsie]

Zimmerman didn't see a kid with a gun, he saw a kid with skittles.

He saw a kid w/ something tucked into his belt, according to the 911 call.

[Goran Dragic]

Says the white punk walking around with his pants falling off trying desperately to be ghetto cool.

that's your response? Making some random assumption about me

[Goran Dragic]

that's definitely an area CC has got you in



or are you just racist on the anonymity of the internet?

Racial jokes when you make them about every group imaginable are one thing (especially when you're Jewish and make as many holocaust jokes as anyone you know).

Sympathizing with someone who shot an innocent black kid to death is actually racist.

[ChumpDumper]

Says the white punk walking around with his pants falling off trying desperately to be ghetto cool.

Is there a picture somewhere?

[Goran Dragic]

He saw a kid w/ something tucked into his belt, according to the 911 call.

so you have reason to fear for you life when you see someone with something tucked in his belt in case it MIGHT be a gun?

[Sec24Row7]

Calling someone a Hood rat and ghetto is racist?

Man... they keep moving the lines on me all the time.

I thought Ghetto and Hood Rat were lifestyle choices, unlike race which is something pre-determined like sex, sexuality and Intelligence.

Can I be racist against a lifestyle choice?

You got me though... I am extremely intolerant of people who act and dress like being a thug is cool.

[ChumpDumper]

so you have reason to fear for you life when you see someone with something tucked in his belt in case it MIGHT be a gun?

The dude who made the call DID have a gun.

[CosmicCowboy]

Arrest requires probable cause. What part of the law destroys any probable cause the police have?

Well the fact that Martin had beaten the out of Zimmerman and was on top of him slamming his head into the concrete can be interpreted by reasonable people (including the prosecutor and the police) that Zimmerman had a reasonable fear for his life.

[Fpoonsie]

so you have reason to fear for you life when you see someone with something tucked in his belt in case it MIGHT be a gun?

Not at all. You said he "saw Skittles."

He didn't.

[Goran Dragic]

Is there a picture somewhere?

I'll admit, when it's raining outside, I enjoy the protection a hoody gives my head from getting wet. Only people tryna act "ghetto cool" do ridiculous stuff like wear a hoody when it's raining out, but I'm one of them. CC has the goods on me there.

[Goran Dragic]

Not at all. You said he "saw Skittles."

He didn't.

I said he saw a kid with skittles.

Martin was a kid with skittles.

Zimmerman saw Martin.

Hence, Zimmerman saw a kid with skittles.

[Sec24Row7]

that's your response? Making some random assumption about me

You're one of 15+ screen names used by the same ing loser who steals from his employer (if you are in fact employed) by posting on internet message boards all day instead of doing your ing job.

Too Close to home?

[hater]

Calling someone a Hood rat and ghetto is racist?

no but calling someone Hood rat and ghetto merely because they are sporting black skin and are wearing loose clothing and hoodies is damn racist

[Goran Dragic]

Well the fact that Martin had beaten the out of Zimmerman and was on top of him slamming his head into the concrete can be interpreted by reasonable people (including the prosecutor and the police) that Zimmerman had a reasonable fear for his life.

Where is the proof that Martin beat the out of Zimmerman?

I still don't know why a medical examiner didn't do a report on Zimmerman's physical condition to corroborate his story.

[hater]

Where is the proof that Martin beat the out of Zimmerman?

I still don't know why a medical examiner didn't do a report on Zimmerman's physical condition to corroborate his story.

no need to corroborate. All that mattered is Zimmerman had the right skin shade.

[Fpoonsie]

I said he saw a kid with skittles.

Martin was a kid with skittles.

Zimmerman saw Martin.

Hence, Zimmerman saw a kid with skittles.

Zimmerman didn't see a kid with a gun.

Zimmerman didn't see a kid with Skittles.

Zimmerman saw a kid with "his hands in his waistband" and a kid with "something in his hands."

[Goran Dragic]

You're one of 15+ screen names used by the same ing loser who steals from his employer (if you are in fact employed) by posting on internet message boards all day instead of doing your ing job.

Too Close to home?

what?

I'm a student and don't have any class on Tuesdays. I work part time and am too busy at work to ever post.

attacking my posting frequency and making some random claim I steal from my employer.

[Sec24Row7]

no but calling someone Hood rat and ghetto merely because they are sporting black skin and are wearing loose clothing and hoodies is damn racist

Ahhh... even if the kid is white then?

Edit: nice edit...

[hater]

Zimmerman didn't see a kid with a gun.

Zimmerman didn't see a kid with Skittles.

Zimmerman saw a kid with "his hands in his waistband" and a kid with "something in his hands."

and that's reason enough to believe he is dangerous?

[Goran Dragic]

Zimmerman didn't see a kid with a gun.

Zimmerman didn't see a kid with Skittles.

Zimmerman saw a kid with "his hands in his waistband" and a kid with "something in his hands."

I never said Zimmerman actually saw the skittles the kid had, I said he saw a kid with skittles. Are you denying the fact he saw a kid who had skittles?