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[TheWriter]

Selection of site did matter. If a sales tax had passed. Say it did, the arena would not have been at the VC's, no matter what.

How was the arena going to be built if the VC site had been chosen? Exactly.

It wasn't any protests that killed the arena deal for the city, it was the simple fact that the way they wanted to pay for it was by increasing taxes.

That is why the county came in and said they'd raise hotel/motel taxes to build the arena.

[SA210]

Writer,

Your talking about something you don't know about. And the truth is, I don't expect you to understand or agree, because in the fight to save the Victoria Courts site as residential, there was alot of criticism towards the residents from alot of ppl. So that is nothing new.

The whole Victoria Courts fight was very political. It was a political beast that the city, SAHA and many political figures never wanted to comment on. A Very political touchy subject. The VC residents made it impossible for ANY developers, Arena, hotels or anything to take over that property, period, whether it be a sales tax or even a better way to fund the arena.

Sales tax or any other type of plan that the city or anyone would have come up with didn't matter. They were not going to get Victoria Courts, period.

The city's first plan was for Victoria Courts. Protest did kill that plan, no matter how it was to be funded.

[TheWriter]

The city's first plan was for victoria Courts. Protest did kill that plan, no matter how it was to be funded.

They fought it so hard that the place was completely bull dozed and vacant for some 3-4 years?

Way to put up a fight.

Look, the VC was going to be bulldozed no matter what. It was an ideal spot for a new arena. The financial plan the city had to get the thing built was what lead to Bexar saving ass and getting an arena built.

[exstatic]

Selection of site did matter. If a sales tax had passed. Say it did, the arena would not have been at the VC's, no matter what.

The sales tax increase was never going to pass. The polls had it at 70/30 against. That makes selection of site by the city immaterial since they had no funding mechanism, nor could they obtain one. That is all.

[SA210]

Writer,

Look first of all, I covered how VC's stopped any plans for that site.

Now you continue to talk about this as if you know anything about it. It was a huge fight. We were successful, we are making them rebuild it through something called the HOPE VI" program.

The site stood empty for a couple of years because of the corruption, fraud, misuse of funds and a very incompitent CEO, who because of this is no longer with SAHA.
What is being rebuilt right now at VC is what we are making them do. It is a racially integrated, mixed income residential community with past VC residents coming back.

I usually side with you on most issues Writer when everyones putting you down, but you are talking about this like you actually know something about it, and that's disturbing.

I am the actual main plaintiff in the Victoria Courts fight. This is very insulting.
You say, "Way to put up a fight"?
For people like me and the other families that were threatened by SAHA that the buildings would be demolished while our kids were inside, this is very insulting for you to assume you know what really happened and to make selfish comments like that.

[TheWriter]

Writer,

Look first of all, I covered how VC's stopped any plans for that site.

Now you continue to talk about this as if you know anything about it. It was a huge fight. We were successful, we are making them rebuild it through something called the HOPE VI" program.

The site stood empty for a couple of years because of the corruption, fraud, misuse of funds and a very incompitent CEO, who because of this is no longer with SAHA.
What is being rebuilt right now at VC is what we are making them do. It is a racially integrated, mixed income residential community with past VC residents coming back.

I usually side with you on most issues Writer when everyones putting you down, but you are talking about this like you actually know something about it, and that's disturbing.

I am the actual main plaintiff in the Victoria Courts fight. This is very insulting.
You say, "Way to put up a fight"?
For people like me and the other families that were threatened by SAHA that the buildings would be demolished while our kids were inside, this is very insulting for you to assume you know what really happened and to make selfish comments like that.

Point taken. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Sorry.

BTW, I really like the new Victoria Commons.

[SA210]

Buddy, it's just really personal to me, that's all.

They are supposed to put some pools there too. Still has a way to go, but it looks nice.