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    At this point, the only sensible thing would be to give Blair's minutes to Splitter, and work on that rotation. Neither one has a reliable jumper, but Splitter is more consistent. And tall.

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    I'd include the defense on Rudy Gay tonight and all season:

    Game 1: 8-18

    Game 2: 0-7

    Game 3: 9-26

    Game 4(tonight): 7-22

    32.9% for the season series.

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    At this point, the only sensible thing would be to give Blair's minutes to Splitter, and work on that rotation. Neither one has a reliable jumper, but Splitter is more consistent. And tall.
    Won't work in Pops rotation. Diaw would have to take Blair's minutes and starting role. Splitter won't start opposite of Duncan...he's barely played with Duncan this season. Unfortunately Pop failed to build chemistry between his best bigs and if he plays them together in the playoffs they may not gel.

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    I'm just happy that is actually letting Manu play. Two games in a row so far (seems like a record or something, lol) with physical teams ... Yes, even though we were brutally 'man-handled' last night.


    Manu still needs to be out there getting his body and swag back together as much as Pops will possibly allow him to.


    That makes me pretty happy.





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    Hopefully that surge at the end of the 1st half (including a 3 pointer) by Diaw to get the Spurs within 4 points helps propel Diaw the rest of the season. He isn't perfect (none of our back up PF/C are) but as we saw in the game against Dallas, he did a great job defending Dirk. He didn't get too pushed around tonight vs either Gasol or Randolph.

    Sure he needs to cut down on some of the ticky tack fouls (although he has had the misfortune a couple of times, getting the wrong end of the foul, fighting for a rebound/boxing out in the paint) but he is more suited for the playoffs than either Bonner or Blair. By the way can anyone look up Diaw's 3 point % in the playoffs compared to Bonner?

    He deserves consistent minutes in the rotation, coming off the bench he wasn't, hopefully the fall out of Blair in the rotation will open up more minutes for Diaw and Splitter.

    Charles Barkley on TNT Inside The NBA just said "Boris Diaw and SJAX might make the difference in the Western Conference"

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    I'd include the defense on Rudy Gay tonight and all season:

    Game 1: 8-18

    Game 2: 0-7

    Game 3: 9-26

    Game 4(tonight): 7-22

    32.9% for the season series.

    8/18 is pretty much Gay's season average. That was the first game of the season, and Kawhi came off the bench that game.

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    It's not fatigue for tony parker,

    I've said it earlier this season and I've said it forever. When you guys were praising TP for his MVP playing, I was probably in the minority to state that I still don't like Parker.

    He's an excellent PG, but he has far too many flaws! He's not that athletic (no vertical), and his jump shot is still shoddy. All a team has to do is play zone and he's pretty much effectively disabled. Due note that our huge win streaks weren't against strong frontcourt teams like LA and Memphis (w.o Zach Randolph).

    Tony is brilliant against a team that doesn't have stellar defense/a strong frontcourt, but when we do play against the Heat, Memphis, LAL, he falls so far. It's not like "oh it's one bad game", he just can't play.

    I hope I'm proven wrong in the playoffs, but if we are playing against LAL or Grizz in the postseason, I'm not going to be surprised to see Tony play in piss-poor quality.

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    Hopefully that surge at the end of the 1st half (including a 3 pointer) by Diaw to get the Spurs within 4 points helps propel Diaw the rest of the season. He isn't perfect (none of our back up PF/C are) but as we saw in the game against Dallas, he did a great job defending Dirk. He didn't get too pushed around tonight vs either Gasol or Randolph.

    Sure he needs to cut down on some of the ticky tack fouls (although he has had the misfortune a couple of times, getting the wrong end of the foul, fighting for a rebound/boxing out in the paint) but he is more suited for the playoffs than either Bonner or Blair. By the way can anyone look up Diaw's 3 point % in the playoffs compared to Bonner?

    He deserves consistent minutes in the rotation, coming off the bench he wasn't, hopefully the fall out of Blair in the rotation will open up more minutes for Diaw and Splitter.

    Charles Barkley on TNT Inside The NBA just said "Boris Diaw and SJAX might make the difference in the Western Conference"
    +1. I'd be fine with a TD-Diaw starting group and bringing Splitter and Bonner off the bench. While Blair....sits on the bench and enjoys some Whataburger. Fine with me...

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    Won't work in Pops rotation. Diaw would have to take Blair's minutes and starting role. Splitter won't start opposite of Duncan...he's barely played with Duncan this season. Unfortunately Pop failed to build chemistry between his best bigs and if he plays them together in the playoffs they may not gel.
    Diaw had played 0 minutes with Duncan before he got here but Pop is willing to give him those minutes to get him acclimated. Give those minutes to Splitter so he can get acclimated.

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    -Tony Parker choked so violently it was difficult to watch. If he's not righted before the start of the playoffs, the Spurs have no chance.
    Haha... You're overreacting badly to Parker's play. He's having a rough stretch. It happens. He is still one of the best players in the league this year, and I think we should respect his ability enough to trust that he will be "righted." Do you seriously think an MVP candidate is just going to go down in flames at the end of the season and bring the whole team with him? That's just disrespectful, honestly.

    Come on, you're better than that.

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    I was very impressed the way Tony came out especially defensively I really hope he just got tired or something. As far as Splitter this will go down as one of the worlds great mysteries unless Pop has some secret plan. The ing guy seems to get a layup every other touch but gets no burn.

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    As poorly as he ended up playing, no one came out with more intensity than Parker. He was going all out on both ends. I'm still not really concerned with him.

    I'm actually more annoyed with Ginobili, who refuses to attack the basket, for the most part. I don't know if he's just being extra cautious until the playoffs (annoying as it is now, that would be understandable) or if he's flat out pacing himself. But he's got to be more assertive, especially when Parker's not in. Simply being a pick-and-roll maestro and shooting spot up threes isn't enough. ...

    This might be overstating it, but I'd go so far as to say that Duncan's third quarter performance might have saved the season. Seriously. They were teetering, confidence wise and another loss to a team with an imposing front line may have completely sapped them of their confidence and sent them into a tailspin that they may not have recovered from. I'm still not convinced that they're out of the woods in that respect, though. I think a lot of that will depend on the next Lakers game.

    And I don't know that Diaw won the starting gig, so much as Blair lost it. Or, to be even more precise, he never earned it and simply had it handed to him for balance purposes. Either way, its time to be who they're going to be.


    This. Well said, especially the part about Tony and Duncan. Tony is one guy who ALWAYS gets right up after a hard hit. It has always seemed to me that he was determined to pretend that nothing they could do to him mattered. Also, he sort of had to stop playing like he was in the first quarter when I began to worry that it was such a Tony-Tim two man game that everyone else was gonna get out of rhythm if he didn't get them involved. Sometimes he has to do something different because that is what the game requires, not because he doesn't want to score any more.
    But when he required Sevening's help last night after Conley scraped him across the face (and got no call for it), he seemed to lose a step. It seemed to me he played hurt after that.

    Folks here who idiotically refer to him being cowardly due to a french heritage are showing their ignorance of bothTony and the French as well!

    And the part about Duncan? ABSOLUTELY!! I thought last night that Duncan played like we haven't seen him play in years, and like he is going to HAVE to play if we are to win a le. Absolutely.

    I don't agree with starting Manu because I think that we need him running the second squad. Neal simply isn't up to it.

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    I was very impressed the way Tony came out especially defensively I really hope he just got tired or something. As far as Splitter this will go down as one of the worlds great mysteries unless Pop has some secret plan. The ing guy seems to get a layup every other touch but gets no burn.
    Splitter shoots 60% from the field. He should be taking 15 shots a game. Those are easy baskets that put pressure on the defense and make it easier for the shooters. That's more reliable that 3's. Somehow Pop can't realize that.

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    Tiago is Timmy's backup, right? If so, why is everyone upset that they don't play together? We likely won't see Parker and Mills together either, and we shouldn't. Timmy starts, Tiago plays when Timmy's on the bench. Isn't this basketball 101?
    Pop, izzat you?

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    Haha... You're overreacting badly to Parker's play. He's having a rough stretch. It happens. He is still one of the best players in the league this year, and I think we should respect his ability enough to trust that he will be "righted." Do you seriously think an MVP candidate is just going to go down in flames at the end of the season and bring the whole team with him? That's just disrespectful, honestly.

    Come on, you're better than that.
    Parker plays like this against two teams in particular. The Lakers and the Grizzlies. Both teams take him out of his game... partly because of the game plan and capable defenders, and partly because he's scared of the bigs. This isn't a rough stretch for him... it's these two opponents having the personel to give him trouble and him not responding well. His adjustments are to play out of his comfort zone, and he turns the ball over so much that it's almost like he's a liability on offense. By the end of the game, he has no confidence... which results in a ty performance.

    Disrespectful? Are you kidding me? No one wants a repeat of last year's playoff performance. Get that condescending out of here.

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    Stephen Mother ing Jaxson!!!

    IMO he's the spark that kept us going in the 2nd half. (and timmy of course)

    mother er is ruthless

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    Anyone see 48MoH's grades for last night's game? Parker: B, Splitter C-!!!!

    That place has gone downhill fast, tbh.

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    It's amazing how tiago it's so useful and does not play.
    Obviously he is keeping Tiago & Duncan combination for the playoff. Pop is smart, he won't play all his cards during regular season.

    Yeah yeah, ur gonna reply "he didnt play Tiago last post-season". I BELIEVE this year's playoff scenario will be different than last year's.

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    Parker plays like this against two teams in particular. The Lakers and the Grizzlies. Both teams take him out of his game... partly because of the game plan and capable defenders, and partly because he's scared of the bigs. This isn't a rough stretch for him... it's these two opponents having the personel to give him trouble and him not responding well. His adjustments are to play out of his comfort zone, and he turns the ball over so much that it's almost like he's a liability on offense. By the end of the game, he has no confidence... which results in a ty performance.

    Disrespectful? Are you kidding me? No one wants a repeat of last year's playoff performance. Get that condescending out of here.
    Last 17 games againts the lakers TP is shooting 50%, has 19 pts a game, 5.5 assists, 1 stl and 2.3 TOs. He is turning the ball over so much and he is almost a liability on offense. Last PO serie against the Lakers, 48% FG, 19 ppg, 5.6 assists, 0.8 stl, 2.4 TOs.

    Against the Grizz last two seasons (13 games) incl POs, TP is shooting 46%, 17.8 pts per game, 6.4 assists, 1.5 stls and 3.2 TOs. Against Grizz TP struggles a bit with a lower FG% and 0.6 more TO than his regular average but it's not like he is far below his usual production.

    The numbers don't seem to backing up what you are saying tbh.

    For the record I also thought he had a sub par PO performance against the Grizz last year but making generalization over a PO serie where he has not been good but not terrible some people are saying and one game against the lakers is lol.

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    Obviously he is keeping Tiago & Duncan combination for the playoff. Pop is smart, he won't play all his cards during regular season.

    Yeah yeah, ur gonna reply "he didnt play Tiago last post-season". I BELIEVE this year's playoff scenario will be different than last year's.
    I've heard this mentioned before in jest. I never thought anyone would actually think Pop was this stupid. lol

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    I've heard this mentioned before in jest. I never thought anyone would actually think Pop was this stupid. lol
    Did it in 2007 with Oberto. In 05 with Mohammed.

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    I think it was a huge mistake that POP put Dejuan on Bynum last night. A 6'4 dude who has limited athleticism won't be able to match up against an elite big man like Bynum. Unlike many people here though, I really think POP should put Diaw on Gasol and TD on Bynum when the Spurs play the Lakers.

    Diaw has the lateral quickness and size to push off Gasol out of his comfort zone. Duncan meanwhile will have his hands full on Bynum, but at least we won't look like midgets if we put Blair in.

    As much as I would love to see the Splitter-Duncan combo, we have to admit that Splitter is TD's reliever and Splitter actually plays really well with Bonner in the second unit.

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    I think it was a huge mistake that POP put Dejuan on Bynum last night. A 6'4 dude who has limited athleticism won't be able to match up against an elite big man like Bynum. Unlike many people here though, I really think POP should put Diaw on Gasol and TD on Bynum when the Spurs play the Lakers.

    Diaw has the lateral quickness and size to push off Gasol out of his comfort zone. Duncan meanwhile will have his hands full on Bynum, but at least we won't look like midgets if we put Blair in.

    As much as I would love to see the Splitter-Duncan combo, we have to admit that Splitter is TD's reliever and Splitter actually plays really well with Bonner in the second unit.

    I totally agree!! Let Blair be the "big" that spells the other guys when they need a rest. It's that simple!

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    This. Well said, especially the part about Tony and Duncan. Tony is one guy who ALWAYS gets right up after a hard hit. It has always seemed to me that he was determined to pretend that nothing they could do to him mattered. Also, he sort of had to stop playing like he was in the first quarter when I began to worry that it was such a Tony-Tim two man game that everyone else was gonna get out of rhythm if he didn't get them involved. Sometimes he has to do something different because that is what the game requires, not because he doesn't want to score any more.
    But when he required Sevening's help last night after Conley scraped him across the face (and got no call for it), he seemed to lose a step. It seemed to me he played hurt after that.

    Folks here who idiotically refer to him being cowardly due to a french heritage are showing their ignorance of bothTony and the French as well!

    And the part about Duncan? ABSOLUTELY!! I thought last night that Duncan played like we haven't seen him play in years, and like he is going to HAVE to play if we are to win a le. Absolutely.

    I don't agree with starting Manu because I think that we need him running the second squad. Neal simply isn't up to it.
    I agree about Parker. The guy is 6-2 and a was a slight 180 for the majority of his career (he's now a slightly less slight 185), yet has fearlessly and relentlessly went into the land of giants as much as anyone I've ever seen. He's rushed back from a few injuries, tried to play through a lot more than Ginobili has (particularly in recent years) and almost never admits to being fatigued or uses it as an excuse.

    As far as Ginobili starting and running the second unit, he can do both. That's exactly what he did last season. As far as a general outline for a playoff rotation, just sub him out at the 5 minute mark, bring him back for Parker at the 1 minute mark, bring Parker back at the 8 minute mark, sub Ginobili back out, then bring him back at the 4-5 minute mark. That's roughly 19 and 16-17 minutes, respectively and 11-12 together, per half.

    The best players need to play together for significant minutes. He already refuses to pair his fourth best player with his three best (I mean collectively, not individually) and they never play what's statistically their best five. They can't continue to compound that by not playing their three best together that much.

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