sigh...im not a coach, ref, nor do I work in the front office and I'm not a pretentious Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_ like some people...thats why I asked the question...sigh
If MWP had had an eyeline and knew that he was hitting Harden directly in the head, I might agree with some of the suspension talk I'm seeing. But since he didn't have eyeline, and could not be said to be trying to inflict a concussion (no arguments that he was clearly trying to deliver a high injury), I don't think a ban from the NBA is warranted. Disgusting play, intent to injure, should be suspended into the playoffs, if not for the duration, but beyond that? I'm not so sure.
Damn, that was dirty. Artest is a ing coward. Should be 10 games or more
I'm not sure what's worse, if it was intentional, or if he just did it in the course of celebration and didn't realize that he did it. Total chicken play. I was really starting to respect what he's brought to the Lakers the last few weeks. They need to drop the hammer on him.
What a piece of this moron is. Ban for rest of playoffs and next season if not for life. BECAUSE of his past and this stupid incident today. The moron just can't be trusted to keep things civil on the basketball court. What happens next time? Should the NBA risk that?
I think it was partially intentional, if that makes sense? There was clear intent to injure - one does not drag one's arm across one's body to gain maximum momentum, raising one's elbow above one's own head and slashing it in the direction of an opponent you KNOW is there (besides being about an inch away, he's got an arm on you) without intention.
The move was clearly intentional - he knew someone was there and wanted to hurt him.
Did he know that he was going to connect with Harden's head or was he aiming specifically to concuss Harden? I don't know. I'm not sure that with the high elbow you could expect to do anything but hit above the shoulders. But it's true that he had no eyeline to where he would land his deliberately hard-thrown elbow, so I'm not sure.
It will be interesting to see how the league handles it, and I don't doubt that there may be an element of reputation involved in the suspension.
what really pisses me off is that no on on the Thunder raised up on Artest. Understandably, Artest is crazy and may have tried to you kill someone, but Ibaka or Perkins has to do something, right?
And i'm not talking about the fake set up that Ibaka did. Dude basically peed on himself the second Artest put crazy face on.
now these guys are going to play each other in round 2... fireworks
He had eye-line because he saw Harden right before he turned his back to him, it was pre-meditated. Watch the vid again, he sees him coming and he knew where his elbow would land around the head area.
He felt up Hardens arm after seeing him to measure him up, then knew where to directly throw the blow. Pay attention to how he was very calculated. He did it quick right after he saw him coming, but tried to act like it was all an accident.
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Yeah Ibaka getting himself suspended for several games would have been a great idea.
If I were Stern, I would suspend him for the rest of this season --- Not because I'm a Spurs fan, but a fan of players' health and safety. Jesus.
It wouldnt suprise me if he is suspend about 10 games
If he gets anything less than 5 games, thenNBA.
There is absolutely no doubt that was intentional. Was it intentionally to the head... Thats more difficult, it was thrown very high. Was he trying to hurt Harden... I dont know.
But...
After the elbow was thrown and connected, Artest had to know he had hit someone in the head, he had to. He made absolutely no effort to look down, "omg, I did not mean to do that", no gesture showing concern whatsoever. Furthermore he was ready to fight immediately after.
If Stern is really serious about violence in the NBA, he is out of the playoffs. If we find out Harden has a serious concussion, this has to happen. It might really depend on how bad Harden is hurt even though that might not be the best criteria.
World Peace... yeah, thats the ticket. He has some really serious mental problems. And he had been playing really well, it was actually fun to watch him play good basketball again.
Anyone can throw those kind of elbows and make it violent if you hit a guy in the temple. Classic chicken wing. Its a very dirty move for cowards. I will never forget how Artest reacted to Ben Wallace while he was fuming. Attack the fans who threw concrete-like beer on him.
I think it was ok. No suspension required.
Oh nevermind, I thought I was watching MMA.
Did those who are saying 5 games even see what happened? I don't see how you can possibly suspend him for less than a full season, if not a lifetime ban. There is no room for this is in sports and Artest is a repeat offender. Do you really trust him to not do it again? He poses a danger to the health, careers, and very lives of other players. If you don't trust him to not do it again, you can't let him back on the court ever.
Old people get blind. Take some Geritol and watch it again.
7 games
And risk getting your best players suspended with the playoffs coming?
Good thing the thunder players think better than you.
Welcome back.
Nice to see Ron still got class
it was clearly intentional, there is absolutely no doubt and imo he wanted to hit the head. He should be suspended for the rest of the year.
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