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Did you make up a list of ideas on how to trivialize abortion?
Hey,what about us^^^, we want a say! (Sorry babies, it doesn't do any good, they just don't care)
Thanks for making the right choice mommy!
Just like there was a dramatic drop in drug use?If the law stated that abortion were illegal other than vs the life of the mother, rape, and incest I bet the pregnancies that lead to abortion would drop dramatically...I'd say maybe about 75% in this Country.
Did you make up a list of ideas on how to trivialize abortion?
Hey,
Thanks for making the right choice mommy!
Did you save a bunch of pictures to avoid the question?
What was there to answer?
When was drug use legal? There was nothing to compare.
Look a little deeper next time and you may be able to answer your own question.
But if not I'm here for ya bro.
The issue is abortion so save the straw(wo)man distractions.
No, the issue is you trying to impose your own beliefs on me. I do NOT believe that life begins at conception. PERIOD.
What makes you feel that you have the right to tell ME what I should believe? And that I should be punished because of what YOU believe if my actions don't quite measure up to what YOU feel is morally correct?
So, when does it begin and, after you answer that, how do we reconcile the 150 million different answers to that question from all the women of the United States?
My response is that life begins somewhere and since there is an entire range of beliefs -- just among child-bearing age women -- from life begins at conception to life doesn't begin until sometime after birth, society should err on the side of caution and life and prohibit the practice of abortion until we have a definitive answer.
It has nothing to do with you or your personal morality. It has to do with defining human life and when that life deserves to be afforded its own rights to life, liberty, and property -- as guaranteed in the U. S. Cons ution.
Men's pursuit of happiness sometimes leads to unwanted pregnancies.
Not unless there's a willing woman.
Where there is a will..there is a way.
That doesn't mean society has to provide it.
Provide what? sex?
[QUOTE]I've listened to the opinions of everyone that's posted in the thread and I don't feel anyone is trying to "impose" on me. I'm stating how I feel and others are stating how they feel and the only way someone should feel imposed upon is if their insecure in their position on abortion.
Perhaps the confrontation you're having is with your conscience?
Why does my opinion matter that much to you and where did I tell you what you should believe? I'm stating what I believe, feel free to personalize it if you wish but you certainly have the option to disregard it.What makes you feel that you have the right to tell ME what I should believe? And that I should be punished because of what YOU believe if my actions don't quite measure up to what YOU feel is morally correct?
Anything to satisfy the object of will.
Do I seriously need to point out the generic use of "YOU" to you?Why does my opinion matter that much to you and where did I tell you what you should believe? I'm stating what I believe, feel free to personalize it if you wish but you certainly have the option to disregard it.
^no, with all due respect,just point out the generic use of imposition of JJ's morals to yours for starters.
Do you vote in line with that opinion?
^no, with all due respect,just point out the generic use of imposition of JJ's morals to yours for starters.
Why does the compulsive power of the state have to be the only thing society uses with regard to these kinds of issues?
Well, in this case, I believe it is because the unborn child has no other remedy -- particularly when it is the person most likely to be its protector that is trying to terminate its life. After all, aren't individual human rights kind of the whole purpose of the first ten amendments to the U.S. Cons ution?
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Sure..when it suits you. Bush spouts his beliefs about the sanc y of human life and human rights but has no problems going to war and killing innocent victims or allowing torture of "suspects" in the so called "black prison" in foreign countries.
Focus man -- the topic is abortion.
So, if this is a human rights issue, then you would say that abortion should be illegal under all cir stances, including rape, incest, health of the mother, etc.?
That's an absolutist position that some have. But, if we could restrict our debate to just those type of "duress" pregnancies that'd be a nice change.
However, if pressed I'd say yeah -- except for the legitimate health of the mother argument when it truly becomes the rights of one individual weighed against the rights of another.
I think it would go a long way if we could just end the practice of "convenience" abortions and focus on those that are truly sought as a result of cir stances beyond the control of the mother.
That's my thought too.
If abortion is illegal because of the child's rights, it should always be illegal. I mean, it's not the baby's fault that the mother was raped...
This whole debate all goes back to punishing a woman for having sex.
How will you police that? What happens when rape reports suddenly increase by 10x?I think it would go a long way if we could just end the practice of "convenience" abortions and focus on those that are truly sought as a result of cir stances beyond the control of the mother.
I think I just stipulated that I agreed with this point. If it is a pure human rights issue, only abortions that are undertaken to save the life of the mother should be considered.
No, it actually speaks to protecting the rights of a living human being. Do women not know that sexual intercourse can result in pregnancy?
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