Trayvon Martin - black kid armed with skittles killed in "self-defense"

[Creepn]

And yeah, I have read the Florida code and I don't think the guy is guilty of second degree murder or manslaughter.

So a ty ass law made by ty ass men with a hard on for guns makes you give a pass on Zimmerman huh? morals and common sense.

[Wild Cobra]

And yeah, I have read the Florida code and I don't think the guy is guilty of second degree murder or manslaughter.

I don't either, at least by the evidence made public. I'm sure you will agree there could be some damning evidence not known by the media. Right? Unlikely, but possible. Right?

[Wild Cobra]

i believe he saw him, profiled him, and stalked that kid down. got his gun, jumped into daddys truck and found exactly what he was hoping to find.

finding out more about george should prove to be interesting, unless you're already in the tank.

LOL...

Profiled: YES!

Stalked: NO!

[TeyshaBlue]

So a ty ass law made by ty ass men with a hard on for guns makes you give a pass on Zimmerman huh? morals and common sense.

Non sequitur is non sequitur.

Again. We don't have a justice system. We have a legal system.

[clambake]

LOL...

Profiled: YES!

Stalked: NO!

you may be right. my stalking knowledge couldn't hold a candle next to yours.

[cantthinkofanything]

Ya but the way you presented yourself throughout this whole ordeal makes it seems like you are rooting for that to happen. And I believe you are rooting for it to happen. your faux neutrality.

I don't agree much with Creepn but...

[Creepn]

Non sequitur is non sequitur.

Again. We don't have a justice system. We have a legal system.

Very true, but just because someone did something wrong that was "legal", I'm not going to be going out of my way and taint myself in siding with said person.

[Wild Cobra]

you may be right. my stalking knowledge couldn't hold a candle next to yours.

See, there you go again. You are corrected several times on definitions yet you keep using them as an effective lie. Are you stupid, or a liar?

[Wild Cobra]

Very true, but just because someone did something wrong that was "legal", I'm not going to be going out of my way taint myself in siding with said person.

Just how is what we have said siding with Zimmerman? I think every one of us who say he's innocent of the crime has also said some bad things about him. Can you find an actual cheerleader among us?

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't either, at least by the evidence made public. I'm sure you will agree there could be some damning evidence not known by the media. Right? Unlikely, but possible. Right?

I thought it was pretty damning when the prosecutors investigator admitted they hadn't found any evidence that Zimmerman's version of what happened wasn't true.

[Wild Cobra]

I thought it was pretty damning when the prosecutors investigator admitted they hadn't found and evidence that Zimmerman's version of what happened wasn't true.

Should "and" be "any?"

I find it very disturbing he's being brought to trial if they don't have anything useful. If all they have is what we already know, I want them fired.

[clambake]

See, there you go again. You are corrected several times on definitions yet you keep using them as an effective lie. Are you stupid, or a liar?

i think its delicious, watching you pretend that we don't know about you.

[Wild Cobra]

i think its delicious, watching you pretend that we don't know about you.

It's in your mind. I guess in your pathetic life, fantasy beats reality.

[clambake]

I thought it was pretty damning when the prosecutors investigator admitted they hadn't found and evidence that Zimmerman's version of what happened wasn't true.

this is exactly my point. "zimmerman's version"

[clambake]

It's in your mind. I guess in your pathetic life, fantasy beats reality.

like i said. "delicious"

[Trill Clinton]

Justice for Travon? Not going to happen. He brought fists to a gun fight. And unfortunately, the current laws in place are going to protect Zimmerman. I have little doubt he (Zimmerman) probably played out scenarios in his head just like this one. And not necessarily with racial bias. I don't think he went out that specific night to kill someone. But I do think he probably visualized enough situations where he would use his gun so that it was the first thing on his mind. So is justice hanging Zimmerman for acting within the law? IMO, the only acceptable outcome is that 1) Zimmerman be judged based on the current laws without any bias and 2) the laws are reviewed and changed to lower the chances of this happening again. And maybe 3) if Zimmerman is as sorry as he seems, maybe he shoots himself.

Justice for me will be if the stand your ground law gets done away with or tweeked to where people can't claim self defense after killing someone who isn't armed when they initiate the altercation. This is especially important, wouldn't want a black person or a hispanic to kill a white kid for something similar and get away with it either.

It would also be nice if he served some jail time( more than 1 year less than life) anywhere between that range.

[CosmicCowboy]

this is exactly my point. "zimmerman's version"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mari-f...b_1441261.html

From the article:

The key to the performance, though, was O'Mara's battle scene with investigator Dale Gilbreath. He got up and questioned Gilbreath so much about the affidavit that the investigator came off looking like a fool. First, Gilbreath admitted he wasn't aware of any inquiry to Trayvon Martin's father as to whether he could identify the voice heard screaming in the 911 calls as his son's. Gilbreath also admitted that he does not know who started the fight, does not have evidence to prove who started the fight and does not have evidence to contradict Zimmerman's statement that Martin started the fight. He also testified he does not have evidence to contradict Zimmerman's assertion that he turned back around to walk to his car. O'Mara also laid into Gilbreath over the use of "profiling" in the affidavit and the claim that Zimmerman "continued to follow" Martin even after he was told by a dispatcher not to. This claim that he "continued to follow" is key to the case, because it helps the prosecution prove he had an intent to kill, which is grounds for a 2nd degree murder conviction.

[CosmicCowboy]

Justice for me will be if the stand your ground law gets done away with or tweeked to where people can't claim self defense after killing someone who isn't armed when they initiate the altercation. This is especially important, wouldn't want a black person or a hispanic to kill a white kid for something similar and get away with it either.

It would also be nice if he served some jail time( more than 1 year less than life) anywhere between that range.

There is absolutely no evidence to prove Zimmerman initiated the altercation. If there was then "stand your ground" would not have applied.

[Wild Cobra]

The key to the performance, though, was O'Mara's battle scene with investigator Dale Gilbreath. He got up and questioned Gilbreath so much about the affidavit that the investigator came off looking like a fool. First, Gilbreath admitted he wasn't aware of any inquiry to Trayvon Martin's father as to whether he could identify the voice heard screaming in the 911 calls as his son's. Gilbreath also admitted that he does not know who started the fight, does not have evidence to prove who started the fight and does not have evidence to contradict Zimmerman's statement that Martin started the fight. He also testified he does not have evidence to contradict Zimmerman's assertion that he turned back around to walk to his car. O'Mara also laid into Gilbreath over the use of "profiling" in the affidavit and the claim that Zimmerman "continued to follow" Martin even after he was told by a dispatcher not to. This claim that he "continued to follow" is key to the case, because it helps the prosecution prove he had an intent to kill, which is grounds for a 2nd degree murder conviction.

I wonder if the prosecution is going to have evidence the police told Zimmerman not to follow or not. Can the prosecutor be disbarred if there is no such evidence? Is there another tape that wasn't released I wonder?

[clambake]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mari-f...b_1441261.html

From the article:

what makes you think i'm talking about evidence? i'm talking about character.

i've already stated that this trial is in florida, and the guys name is zimmerman.

[Trill Clinton]

Just proving again how stupid you are.

All I have said is Zimmerman may be a dirtbag, but he's not going to be convicted of murder or manslaughter because the facts of the case will not allow them to prove him guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.

You aren't getting "justice for Trayvon" .

shut. the. . up.

You go from calling me stupid to now calling me a because I don't agree with you

Look, its obvious you support domestic violence against women, violence against police officers, racism and now the senseless murder of a child. Go ahead and that the word of that guy. His story has more holes in it that swiss cheese yet you blindly believe anything this racist, murderer says. disgusting.

[Wild Cobra]

what makes you think i'm talking about evidence? i'm talking about character.

i've already stated that this trial is in florida, and the guys name is zimmerman.

LOL...

If a person went to jail based on Character, you would be there for life!

[Trill Clinton]

I'm not going to go back and read all your posts but if you're going to judge Zimmerman based on his past, then you need to do the same with Travon. There's enough background info to suggest that he was violent, a thief, a drug user, a wannabe gansta, etc. Not saying that any of that justifies what happened. But if you're going to take Zimmerman's past into account, do the same with Travon.

Trayvon had no criminal record..everything you listed about Trayvon's past is your opinion and speculation.

Meanwhile in child killerland...GZ has: beat up on his wife, fought an ATF agent, made prejudice an racist remarks about Mexicans whe he himself is of Mexican heritage and the cherry on this sundae, he killed an innocent child.

would you hire someone with GZ's criminal history?

[clambake]

LOL...

If a person went to jail based on Character, you would be there for life!

thats no way to talk to someone that ensured your survival.

[Creepn]

Just how is what we have said siding with Zimmerman? I think every one of us who say he's innocent of the crime has also said some bad things about him. Can you find an actual cheerleader among us?

<Insert Steven A. Smith laugh> MWA HA HA HA HA HAAA!

Are you ting me? Stop with the faux neutrality already! Be a man and represent. I'm on Team Martin. Are you ashamed to admit what team you are on?

Listen, here is a tell-tell sign in how to know a person is on Team Zimmerman: ANYBODY who participated in the slandering of Martin's character by calling him a thug, a drug dealer, or what have you, that person fulfilled the requirement to be on Team Zimmerman.