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Finally someone with a sensible post...I agree with you;-)
Lakers win because of Kobe.
Lakers lose because of teammates.
Just the way it's suppose to be. Runs like clockwork.
Finally someone with a sensible post...I agree with you
Lkrfn even a die-hard like me know we're done it's not happening...I'm not usually candid but I can read the tea-leaves blowing in the wind...
Pau is completely and totally finished....and he knows it...he's doing more to sully his 2 rings than anyone I've ever seen. Phil Jackson even punched his ass in the chest last year, he cried all this year about being traded and now he refuses to step up when he has all kinds of advantages....as a Laker fan it's pretty embarrassing to witness this colossal meltdown by Pau and Bynum seems to be following suit.
Kobe's comments about having Artest next to him because Artest plays hard every night was meant to sting and not just for the next game...Jim Buss already doesn't like Pau and hasn't forgiven him for quitting on us last year as well and trust me he will unload Pau the first chance he gets this off-season...We cannot fix Gasol for one game..Denver smells blood and they're going for it...I think we'll lose and Kobe will then melt down on his teammates..He's just saving it up right now...
Pau doesn't have testicles that can descend. His value will drop even more but hopefully there's a fool out there that will take him packaged with Blake...
Even with his surgery I'd take LaMarcus over Pau...I just can't stand Pau's continuous disappearing act...I've never a seen a 7 footer that can't get or maintain basic post position like Pau and Dirk...those guys are pathetic...a rookie Faried giving it to Gasol the whole series...embarassing it is...
Bynum is not the answer..He's a very good complimentary piece in a watered down league but he cannot lead a team. I was watching plays last night and it dam near looked like he wanted us to lose the game...dude didn't even try not even a little...he had a meaningless 16 boards...he grabbed those because he felt obligated ( no one else was around)
He'd be a rookie had he went to college and he's playing like it. Still I'd only trade for Dwight...but the kid is no next great big man...not by a long shot..
We're done now but next season unless we unload Bynum and Gasol and find a way to get Deron and Dwight Kobe won't make it to 6 not with OKC lurking and Miami looking strong with their big 3...
I will join Cully now in silence as I won't stick around for Saturday's LA ass stompingTalk about the revenge of Kate
Seems to me that Gasol plays well when Bynum plays well. When Bynum is off or head not in the game, Pau kind of follows him down the chute. It's about roles and who is the man in the middle.
Lakers would probably be better off if Pau played a role like Marc does with the Grizz. And had a true PF next to him.
The problem with this is, while I agree with Bean, his team is full of soft pussies and this will probably only make it worse
Agree
What a leader
Yeah right, because leaders shouldn't scoff at their teammates when they are playing worse than a sick teammate.
These ers, especially Bynum, had this coming. It's time for Kobe to teach this er a lesson.
Pau should be playing in the post.
He missed 9 of 10 jumpshots because he never was a jumpshooter. Blame Brown
The Spurs win because of Duncan. Do you envision it in another way? Then shut up, got.
Kobe makes every single game and every single in-game situation about himself. The entire game was about how sick he was. After the game it's about how well he played. The entire third quarter consisted of Kobe playing low-post iso while the rest of his teammates overloaded the opposite side of the floor waiting to rebound.
Bynum should give more effort. But he's obviously tired of playing with Kobe and I can't say I blame him. Gasol is just a soft, emotional, loose-lipped vag, but I'm sure he's tired of playing with Kobe as well. As far as Kobe is concerned, he shouldnt expect his teammates to go out there and battle it out with him when there's really no concept of "team" to begin with. There's Kobe, and then there's the team. He doesn't actually wonder why his guys arent giving effort; he knows exactly why. Artest is too crazy to even know the difference.
Are you kidding me? The Spurs won because of Pop, Parker, Ginobili and Robinson. The team won those championships, Duncan was only there to lead.
Nobody is great like Kobe, who single-handedly willed his pitiful supporting cast of Shaq, Gasol, Bynum and Odom to 5 NBA championships.
There were only one person who won a championship with an absolute crap supporting cast. It's not Jordan (Pippen, Zen Master), not Duncan (Robinson, Ginobili, Parker, Bowen, Pop), not Hakeem (Drexler, uhh.... Maxwell, Smith, Cassell, and Thorpe), not Magic (Kareem), not Kareem (Magic, Big O), not Lebron (never won one), not Shaq (because Shaq was the supporting cast), but ONLY Kobe.
All hail king Kobe.
the last years of TOSB kobe will be great to see, this is just one of many more implosions to come, tbh
He should said all that in the locker room. If needed to call out publicly it was the coachs job. Kobe shots and keeps the ball too much, hence his team mates are inconsistent and that's almost 40 mpg every game tbh. No coincidence the Lakers had dominant performance vs the Spurs when Kobe was out.
Kobe played well, but still some humility is in order. No wonder his team mates quit on him.
Last edited by dunkman; 05-11-2012 at 08:25 AM.
Pop would be coaching a bag team without Tim.
Robinson...I wonder how many lost superstars with no destination other than San Antonio he's going to bible-thump without Tim.
And let's not talk about Ginobili and Parker. They are nothing without Tim.
The entire San Antonio franchise owes a lot to Tim Duncan, inasmuch as these Lakers owe a lot to Kobe to show up in a close-out game. They don't even need to owe it to him. They are getting ing paid to do that.
IMO, Bynum is the real problem. Dude needs to get his head out of that fantasy universe he is in and ball. LA is the worst place for that dude because he can keep playing like and have no consequences. It looks like he doesn't even care about his teammates or basketball in general. He reminds me of the lazy guy at work who does nothing but talk and only works hard when the boss is watching.
Who would have him?
I respect Kobe for his passion to win, but his teammates play like they honestly don't care.
Duncan is just one piece of the puzzle. He is not great like Kobe.
Just laying the groundwork for the next crazy trade in the Lakers' favor. The nixed CP3 trade provides enough cover for this next one.
Look at how you sticks even try to diminish Tim's contributions to San Antonio just to be able to have a Kobe cheapshot. You are pathetic life forms whose lives should be ended right now.
They play that way because of Kobe. If Kobe sat out last night, I believe the Lakers win or at least get a close game because the ball is forced inside. Inactive on offense often translates to inactive on defense, and Pau didn't shoot until the second quarter.
Kobe was in full out hero mode. I've always contended that Kobe is more interested in having a shot at being a hero than at winning games. He would rather lose on a monster individual performance than win with a team effort. It's been apparent all year. When someone like Kerr points out that the team rarely wins when Kobe takes 30 shots or more, that's a pretty good indicator that Kobe should move the ball.
There must have been some talking in the huddle, because everyone started deferring after the 1st quarter. You could see in the 3rd that it as "feed Kobe" time, and anything else was shunned quickly by Brown and Kobe.
Brown should have packed for a longer trip though, he's going to be traveling a lot soon.
I'm atheist, however to retire a champion as he did is pretty rare for bigs of his caliber, so I can see how it reinforced his religious beliefs. However, he will be the first to say it's not the win he was gifted, but Tim. Tim was the answer to his prayers.
I personally think that's all bull .
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