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    Vote For JFK2 JohnnyMarzetti's Avatar
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    GOP Leaders to Bush: 'Your Presidency is Effectively Over'By DOUG THOMPSON Nov 4, 2005, 08:13

    A growing number of Republican leaders, party strategists and political professional now privately tell President George W. Bush that his presidency "is effectively over" unless he fires embattled White House advisor Karl Rove, apologizes to the American people for misleading the country into war and revamps his administration from top to bottom.

    "The only show of unity we have now in the Republican Party is the belief that the President has failed the party, the American people and the presidency," says a longtime, and angry, GOP strategist.

    With the public face of support for Bush eroding daily from even diehard Republicans, the President faces mounting anger from within his party over the path that may well lead to loss of control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections and the White House in 2008.

    "This presidency is in trouble," says a senior White House aide. "Even worse, I don't know if there is a way out of the trouble."

    Congressional leaders journeyed to the White House before Bush left on his South American tour this week to tell the President that his legislative agenda on the Hill is dead, his latest Supreme Court nominee faces a tough confirmation fight in the Senate and he is facing open revolt within party ranks.

    "The Speaker is having an increasingly difficult time holding his troops in line," says a source within the office of House Speaker Dennis J. Hastert. "Anger at the President grows exponentially with each passing day."

    At a recent White House strategy session, internal party pollsters told the President that his approval rating with Americans continues to slide and may be irreversible, citing his failed Iraq war, the failed Supreme Court nomination of Harriet Miers and his failure to deal decisively on a number of fronts, including Hurricane Katrina, the economy and the Valerie Plame scandal.

    In meetings, leaders and strategists have suggested a number of things that Bush must do to try and save his presidency and GOP prospects in upcoming elections, including:

    Apologize to the American people, Congress and our allies for misleading them on the reasons for invading Iraq;
    Revamp the White House staff from top to bottom;
    Fire Rove.
    "We keep coming back to Rove," says a GOP pollster. "He has escaped indictment, so far, but the feeling within the party is that another shoe is ready to drop and the longer he waits to jettison Rove the greater the damage. As long as Karl Rove remains at the President's side, the Bush presidency is effectively over and he is just riding out the days until the nation elects a Democrat to replace him. Even with Rove gone the damage may be irreparable."

    Bush, however, has dug his heels in on Rove. When a GOP strategist suggested last weekend that the President fire Rove, Bush exploded.

    "You go to ," he screamed at the strategist. "You can leave and you can take the rest of these lily-livered motherf***ers with you!" The President then stormed out of the room and refused to meet further with any other party leaders or strategists.

    Bush's escalating temper tantrums and his intransigence on political issues increase Republican worries about the long term effects on both his presidency and the party's prospects in upcoming elections.

    "Right now, George W. Bush is the Republican Party's chief liability," says a GOP strategist who has advised Presidential campaigns for 30 years. "The entire political future of the party and perhaps the nation now rests on the shoulders of a President that no one - Democrat or Republican - believes in or trusts."

    --Fire Rove and Dumbya's approval rating may just hit 40% again.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    That looks pretty good.

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    This article is such a load of ...
    It's a fantasy of what a liberal would want... But it's not the truth.

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    Dubious article to be sure, but any rant that includes the words "lily-livered mother ers" get props.

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    Injured Reserve Vashner's Avatar
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    The senate is about to suck all the oil out of Alaska.. they just defeated an attempt by the democrats to reject Bush's plan for drilling. They are about to confirm Alito.

    Military wise in Iraq and Afganistan we are winning the war. UN approved vote sessions have occured to plan and not been stopped by insurgency.

    Reality is.. out there today some Marines ed up a bunch of ing stupid ass s. Meanwhile... we get bad news about IED's etc. Not all the good battles. The enemy has been totally reduced to IED's. They lack any ability to fight on the ground toe to toe. This is nothing like Vietnam where you had divisions of well armed nme ground troops engaging US forces.

    The reality is that GW Bush will leave office in Jan 2007 .. an no amount of liberal crying is going to change that.

    Clinton's presidency looks like a boring romp compared to the issues Bush has had to face. Bush wins.. Clinton looses...

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    Veteran scott's Avatar
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    The reality is that GW Bush will leave office in Jan 2007 .. an no amount of liberal crying is going to change that.
    Did I miss a news conference?

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    I imagine there would be some liberal cheering at that notion.

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    Did I miss a news conference?
    lol I can't count 2009.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Did I miss a news conference?

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    Vote For JFK2 JohnnyMarzetti's Avatar
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    Clinton's presidency looks like a boring romp compared to the issues Bush has had to face. Bush wins.. Clinton looses...
    Clinton's popularity is and always will be much greater than Dumbya's.

    Even Dumbya's own daddy would rather partner up with Bill than his own son.


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    Believe. gtownspur's Avatar
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    ^^hardee har har. Dont hold your breath on rove getting fired. NObody gives a damn!

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    What was the source for this article? I'm not sure it's entirely true, but I have no doubt that cutting ties with Rove could only help the White House.

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    ^^hardee har har. Dont hold your breath on rove getting fired. NObody gives a damn!
    A lot of people give a damn. Maybe your circle of friends just isn't broad enough for you to tell. Or maybe you just think that you speak for everyone.

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    Boring = 4 Rings SA210's Avatar
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    ^^hardee har har. Dont hold your breath on rove getting fired. NObody gives a damn!
    And i suppose that if Rove or even Cheney is fired, resigns, or gets indicted, it still would be all bs, right? Will it be called process, a technicality?more stunts from the left? Bush did it to save his presidency, but doen't mean they did anything wrong?

    yea, sure.

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