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    lol relationship lectures

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    This guy gets it! I stopped chasin after I broke up with my ex. took like 39 hours this past year including summers and all, i'm ready to be DONE. do you !

    yeah b im walkin the stage this friday. then off with my own business.

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    Why wouldn't it be?
    There's a chance that both genders could be wrong on that front and in any case just because men are doing something doesn't mean women should also be imo.

    I think real men are more secure than that.
    No they're not.

    I've never claimed to have it all figured out.

    And getting married isn't something I've tried at and failed. It's not everyone's goal. I've had one relationship that I could have seen moving toward marriage, but it didn't happen. It wouldn't have been legally allowed, anyway.

    I don't know what people with my morals and values usually do. Or if that's something to strive for. Or to measure myself against. Just know that I've had a healthy and rewarding sex/romantic life that has been relatively free of drama and heartbreak.
    See mentally I understand what you're saying but I can't relate to this mentality at all. On the one hand I definitely think that there's a difference between a woman who has had multiple partners and a . There really is. That said, I'm just having a hard time grasping the reason why you'd go for multiple partners as a first choice.

    Going by my experiences (which admittedly aren't much), I'm kind of under the impression that men are naturally generous and that if you do certain things for them they'll reciprocate and then some. When you consider the fact that you don't even have to look for them since they'll come up to you, getting into a stable long-term relationship seems like a straightforward matter.

    And besides, wouldn't it feel weird to go from one guy to the next whenever you wanted to? I mean I'm not a marriage-only type but I'd feel really gross taking on more than maybe 2 or 3 partners in my lifetime and my body wouldn't cooperate with me if I attempted a one night stand. So I guess what I'm wondering is how you handle being with more men than that while still being okay with yourself emotionally, physically, and mentally?

    It might be my youth talking but I'm honestly confused when I see other women saying they approach life and relationships like that...
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    I don't think people change that much. You are who you are. But it's extremely difficult to judge and read someone based on a few meetings. Therefore, you're forced to the give the girl a chance despite unfavorable rumors.

    I don't let the girls past get in the way of making my own judgement.

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    There's a chance that both genders could be wrong on that front and in any case just because men are doing something doesn't mean women should also be imo.



    No they're not.



    See mentally I understand what you're saying but I can't relate to this mentality at all. On the one hand I definitely think that there's a difference between a woman who has had multiple partners and a . There really is. That said, I'm just having a hard time grasping the reason why you'd go for multiple partners as a first choice.

    Going by my experiences (which admittedly aren't much), I'm kind of under the impression that men are naturally generous and that if you do certain things for them they'll reciprocate and then some. When you consider the fact that you don't even have to look for them since they'll come up to you, getting into a stable long-term relationship seems like a straightforward matter.

    And besides, wouldn't it feel weird to go from one guy to the next whenever you wanted to? I mean I'm not a marriage-only type but I'd feel really gross taking on more than maybe 2 or 3 partners in my lifetime and my body wouldn't cooperate with me if I attempted a one night stand. So I guess what I'm wondering is how you handle being with more men than that while still being okay with yourself emotionally, physically, and mentally?

    It might be my youth talking but I'm honestly confused when I see other women saying they approach life and relationships like that...
    you should probably have those erectile problems looked into asap.

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    Cf is a classic example of modern day serial monogamy. Because of he way you think (which I think is wrong) you are still single and will never experience growing old together wih someone and the joys of spending a lifetime with that special one. You'll be one of those who get married at 40, you and some other guy who's slept around his whole life will settle on eachother because you're both over the hill and lonely. You shouldn't be on here lecturing people about relationships when you've so obviously failed in them. When my mom was your age, she'd been married for 12 years and my grandmothers on both sides even longer than that at your age. You'll never experience a 50 year anniversary like we celebrated for my grandparents. You're a regular modern day serial monogamist with a broken moral compass.
    get grown and quit making dumb assumptions before you try and lecture someone. i wonder if your grandma used to spread it around back in the day?

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    it's not about security, you still aren't getting it. You're a naive woman. A woman sleeping around has nothing to do with the guys security or lack thereof, it's on her and her only.
    Not being able to look past the number of partners your girlfriend has had is absolutely about security. There are some cracked morals and gender expectations mixed in, too, but most of your concerns are at their base related to a fear of being ed over, hurt, embarrassed by, or ashamed of a woman who isn't at least relatively "pure."

    Yes your relationshipS (plural) have been so rewarding that you're 33 with multiple exes and nothing to show for it still not married. Obviously they all ended for whatever reason meaning they failed. If you're 33 and boasting about your many relationships but they all failed then maybe it's you.
    Ending isn't the same thing as failing.

    Cf is a classic example of modern day serial monogamy.
    Oooh. Look who learned a new term.

    Because of he way you think (which I think is wrong) you are still single and will never experience growing old together wih someone and the joys of spending a lifetime with that special one.
    That's a pretty big leap. And one that again implies I have the same goals you do. I haven't a doubt in my mind that I will experience growing old with someone, but I don't particularly need that person(s) to be someone I'm ing.

    You'll be one of those who get married at 40,
    Possibly not even then, tbh.

    you and some other guy who's slept around his whole life will settle on eachother because you're both over the hill and lonely.
    Again, that's a big assumption. And a dumb one. Threatening a "serial monogamist" who has no immediate intention/need to get married with a lifetime of lonely unmarriedness isn't really the sick burn you think it is.

    You shouldn't be on here lecturing people about relationships when you've so obviously failed in them. When my mom was your age, she'd been married for 12 years and my grandmothers on both sides even longer than that at your age. You'll never experience a 50 year anniversary like we celebrated for my grandparents.
    No 50-year anniversary? Oh noes!!

    You're a regular modern day serial monogamist with a broken moral compass.
    And you're someone who in this thread has essentially boasted about putting your inside someone you can't/won't respect, as well as lying about or hiding your true intentions just to get a woman into bed (for which you will then judge her negatively). If you think your moral compass is bang on, I'll gladly be broken.

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    All girls lie about how many guys they been with.

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    All girls lie about how many guys they been with.
    why is it your business to ask?

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    Incidentally, I don't disagree with this statement. I think the past absolutely does matter. And that it absolutely can speak volumes about a person's character.

    Where you lose me is in the assumption that lots of sexual partners automatically points to bad character, and that few-to-no sexual partners automatically points to good character. Or that what it says about a person's character is apparently gender dependent.
    Sex is a reflection of a man's views on human nature and his own life. If he believes man to be a cognitive rational being, then his sexual life would indicate that. The women that would satisfy him would measure up to his merit and would reflect the values he sees.

    If he however viewed man as condemned, irrational, and no different than beast, he would in turn interpret sex more as a sensory act than cognitive. His choice in sexual partners would be less discriminant, and he'd have no qualms in having sex for sex's sake. Just like the same mentality arose in Oscar Wilde, art for art's sake. And it is no coincidence that that man was a hedonist in real life.

    Now, that's not to say that underlying premises like these 100 percent determine the individual's actions. There are ofcourse exceptions. Christians may hold the same view, but are limited to their actions out of fear and supernatural decree.

    Therefore these christians see man just like the secular postmodern hedonist see men; irrational, condemned, unworthy of exaltation etc. But their differing is in estimation of man entirely. Christians would see man ultimately as redeemable and reminiscent of God, thus they would feel shameful if they were to partake into the primitive act of sensory sexual hedonism. In the case where the christian sees man as irrational, and vulgar, he would choose not to engage in sex because of fear, instead of virtue. His character lacks the proper premise and foundations by which to guide his judgement in enjoying sex and potential partners in such a way.

    He would go on in life looking for women who fit his values while stifling his sexual expression. Thus, he is a man who is unhappy because the reason for his values are not rational, but based on a barbaric notion of "finding objective morality through supernatural revalation and or faith". His body would be in conflict with his mind. If you want the counter example to this look to Paul in the bible who is the opposite of Oscar wilde, who said that he battles with his flesh daily in the effort to please his God, and that this battle was his thorn on his side.

    But human is neither ghost nor is he just material matter. He is both a concious and material being. For man to be happy he must not choose one side or the other or pit them against each other.

    Man must satisfy both, since he is matter and consciousness. If he chooses to feel happy about love and sex, he must base his choices on that which allows man to survive, REASON.


    It is he who finds love as an affinity for values, and sex as the celebration of those values, that will experience sex as a truly spiritual thing, and healthy one at that.

    So, in essence. I would be weary of someone who had multiple partners relative to the time they were able to rationally involve themselves sexually in their own lives because that shows lack of values, judgement and ultimately character.

    Conversely, someone who doesn't engage in sex relative to the time of sexual practice should be questioned to.

    Since this is ultimately a decision that affects the individual, he or she must use their best judgement accordingly. I couldn't make their decision for them.

    But, I myself would find it morally reprehensible to have sex and love someone who would have no qualms with seducing the mailman, the poolboy, and the plumber all in one evening.

    If it's your perogative to engage in such things, well that's fine go whole hog and live of nuts and berries and spend your life in a cave if you want to experience the full effect.

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    I'm pretty hammered, but I take this subject to heart. s, don't date them.
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    As of the case of joe chalupa.

    His story is..

    " Well, yeah.. boys will be boys, i married my negress wife, and now enjoy plain yellow mus on my hotdogs".

    If the path to diabetic neuropathy, bronzing skin, amputations, and severe lack of humor is your perogative. Then follow his sense of life.

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    Haven't jagg'dov for weeks. Where's my reg es Koriwhat, Joe Chalupa and zosa. They about to get a big dousing of Dat Bull sowwwce.


    Gonna add a little flavor to Joe Chalupa's plain mus hotdog, if u kno whottt i mean.

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    There's a chance that both genders could be wrong on that front and in any case just because men are doing something doesn't mean women should also be imo.
    Again, why? I'm certainly not advocating that women make their sexual decisions based on some desire to give men a taste of their own medicine, or anything like that. Women should express themselves sexually however they personally feel comfortable and/or empowered. But I still haven't been given a clear reason as to why women should be required to censor themselves in ways that men do not. Or are not expected to.

    See mentally I understand what you're saying but I can't relate to this mentality at all. On the one hand I definitely think that there's a difference between a woman who has had multiple partners and a . There really is. That said, I'm just having a hard time grasping the reason why you'd go for multiple partners as a first choice.
    Because sex is fun. And because it's possible to meet several people over the course of your lifetime to whom you are physically and sexually attracted, and with whom you share a mutual trust and respect. In those situations, giving in to sexual chemistry just makes sense to me. But not everyone should/must see it the same way.

    Going by my experiences (which admittedly aren't much), I'm kind of under the impression that men are naturally generous and that if you do certain things for them they'll reciprocate and then some. When you consider the fact that you don't even have to look for them since they'll come up to you, getting into a stable long-term relationship seems like a straightforward matter.
    Not sure I understand your point, here. Seems as though your assumption is that I've had multiple sexual partners because I have in the past been denied a long term relationship by some/all of the people I've dated?

    And besides, wouldn't it feel weird to go from one guy to the next whenever you wanted to? I mean I'm not a marriage-only type but I'd feel really gross taking on more than maybe 2 or 3 partners in my lifetime and my body wouldn't cooperate with me if I attempted a one night stand. So I guess what I'm wondering is how you handle being with more men than that while still being okay with yourself emotionally, physically, and mentally?
    I've had very few encounters in my life that would count as one night stands. They were all in my youth, they were mostly with women, and I didn't much like them. It is entirely possible to have casual sexual relationships that aren't one night stands. Trust and respect are absolutely essential for me in picking a sexual partner, which pretty much rules out people I don't know at least as friends.

    And I'm not sure what you mean by going from one guy to the next whenever I wanted to. I have had multiple sexual partners over the course of my life, but I do not typically have multiple sexual partners all at once. If there's someone I'm ing, whether it's for a period of a few weeks, a few months, or a few years, they're the only person I'm ing. I'm not bouncing around from one person to the next on different nights of the week (though, frankly, I don't see anything morally wrong with that, either, so long as everyone involved is careful and honest). So, if that's what you mean by going from one guy to the next whenever I wanted to, I would also feel weird about that, personally.

    It might be my youth talking but I'm honestly confused when I see other women saying they approach life and relationships like that...
    An opinion to which you are of course en led.

    As is everyone, frankly. You'll notice that in this thread I haven't ever suggested that everyone should feel comfortable dating someone who's had an active past. Rather, I've merely questioned the idea that an active sex life is synonymous with a lack of morals.

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    All girls lie about how many guys they been with.
    Not all women lie about how many partners they've had. I'm always honest about it.

    But considering the amount of undue scrutiny placed on women who aren't virginal, is it really that surprising that the women who do fudge the numbers may feel compelled to do so?

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    Everyone fudges the numbers
    What's that rule, where you add seven to there number a woman says, and subtract seven from what a man says

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    Again, why? I'm certainly not advocating that women make their sexual decisions based on some desire to give men a taste of their own medicine, or anything like that. Women should express themselves sexually however they personally feel comfortable and/or empowered. But I still haven't been given a clear reason as to why women should be required to censor themselves in ways that men do not. Or are not expected to.



    .
    Because if some women dress a certain way, guys will treat them as how they view them.

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    why is it your business to ask?
    I've actually never asked. I'm not that dumb.

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    its all about the context.

    be independent, responsible, make some $$$$$ and prove that youre the real deal, and good women will notice. chasing women is a bad idea. women are choosy, and they will find you if youre living on top.

    dont go to dirty 6th to meet women. theres a reason theyre down there in the first place.

    going there myself right now btw. going to hit on s .
    Exactly.

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    I've actually never asked. I'm not that dumb.
    that, and it should be irrelevant unless you are just begging for reasons to find fault

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    Gotta love when women blame the next guy for her exes mistakes. Or say all men are the same. Those are the single for life women.

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    Gotta love when women blame the next guy for her exes mistakes. Or say all men are the same. Those are the single for life women.
    not exclusive to women.

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    not exclusive to women.
    True.. More times than not women drag their "ex problems" into a new relationship. Guys may sometimes, but he realizes when he has a good woman and changes his view more often than not. Women still harp on that same bull in a new relationship "oh you're just like every other guy I dated". Why? Women like to blame men for everything, even their shortcomings because SOME women cannot accept responsibility for things that happened in the past.

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    Because if some women dress a certain way, guys will treat them as how they view them.
    This has zero to do with anything that has been said so far in this thread.

    Other than the fact it is yet another example of how women are punished for male perception.

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