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    Lol warts. Guess you didn't read the part of Tim's comments, saying that Diaw is an asset.
    An asset offensively is what I took that to mean. And I'm not even sold on that tbh. If he is afraid to take open shots teams are going to learn they don't have to guard him. Then what will his value be at this point? As a screen setter and passer? I'd much rather Tiago filled this role.

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    An asset offensively is what I took that to mean. And I'm not even sold on that tbh. If he is afraid to take open shots teams are going to learn they don't have to guard him. Then what will his value be at this point? As a screen setter and passer? I'd much rather Tiago filled this role.
    Your not sold on anything other than trolling and ty takes. How is it that 99.9% of NBA coaches, GMs, and Spur fans think Diaw is a great accquistion, but here you are trying to find flaws in Diaw being a Spur? SMH.

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    Your not sold on anything other than trolling and ty takes. How is it that 99.9% of NBA coaches, GMs, and Spur fans think Diaw is a great accquistion, but here you are trying to find flaws in Diaw being a Spur? SMH.
    Because their are flaws, as Timvp pointed out in the game thread, and its starting to show. Now that the emotions of the "French reunion" of Diaw and Parker has commenced, we'll start to see even more and more.

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    Because their are flaws, as Timvp pointed out in the game thread, and its starting to show. Now that the emotions of the "French reunion" of Diaw and Parker has commenced, we'll start to see even more and more.
    Imagine a role player having flaws. Were you expecting perfection? BTW have you gotten to see the Spurs play this year yet?

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    Imagine a role player having flaws. Were you expecting perfection? BTW have you gotten to see the Spurs play this year yet?
    I expect a perfect rotation, not a perfect player. Or at least as good as humanly possible. A coach has all year to get it right, he should get it right every time come by playoffs. And from what I've seen so far, I don't like Pop's rotations (despite the winning). It's fools gold. It's bad enough that guys are taking games off left and right, but combine that with the fact that nobody knows who is going to get minutes from game to game. I can't imagine all this craziness is actually going to translate to playoff success.

    And Yep seen quite a few games so far. Mark my words, Diaw will do jack for this team except up everyone else's role and bring nothing special to the table. I would have much rather gone with the current 4 (Tim, Blair, Tiago, Bonner) than have this fat bag eating up minutes.

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    I expect a perfect rotation, not a perfect player. Or at least as good as humanly possible. A coach has all year to get it right, he should get it right every time come by playoffs. And from what I've seen so far, I don't like Pop's rotations (despite the winning). It's fools gold. It's bad enough that guys are taking games off left and right, but combine that with the fact that nobody knows who is going to get minutes from game to game. I can't imagine all this craziness is actually going to translate to playoff success.

    And Yep seen quite a few games so far. Mark my words, Diaw will do jack for this team except up everyone else's role and bring nothing special to the table. I would have much rather gone with the current 4 (Tim, Blair, Tiago, Bonner) than have this fat bag eating up minutes.
    From what I keep reading from you (especially the trash after the Portland game..btw.. the motivation that Pop gave that side by throwing that game has led to...them being a tanking candidate now), I think you have hardly watched a single Spurs game this season, let alone, one, after the acquisition of Diaw, Jackson and Mills.

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    From what I keep reading from you (especially the trash after the Portland game..btw.. the motivation that Pop gave that side by throwing that game has led to...them being a tanking candidate now), I think you have hardly watched a single Spurs game this season, let alone, one, after the acquisition of Diaw, Jackson and Mills.
    If and when Pop steers the spurs into the nba finals using this frenetic "fly by the seat of your pants" rotation I'll be the first to bow down and give him his props.

    I just don't see it happening, sorry.

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    If and when Pop steers the spurs into the nba finals using this frenetic "fly by the seat of your pants" rotation I'll be the first to bow down and give him his props.

    I just don't see it happening, sorry.
    You will never see that happening, unless you see a Spurs game. Do that, first.

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    Mark my words, Diaw will do jack for this team except up everyone else's role and bring nothing special to the table.
    I've marked your words before.

    Would you like to see them again?

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    I've marked your words before.

    Would you like to see them again?
    The list is long I take it.

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    An asset offensively is what I took that to mean. And I'm not even sold on that tbh. If he is afraid to take open shots teams are going to learn they don't have to guard him. Then what will his value be at this point? As a screen setter and passer? I'd much rather Tiago filled this role.
    He needs to replace Blair, not Tiago.

    And if nobody is guarding Diaw, he should dribble in as close as he can and take a 10-footer or draw people to him in the paint and then pass to a cutter for a lay-up.

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    He needs to replace Blair, not Tiago.

    And if nobody is guarding Diaw, he should dribble in as close as he can and take a 10-footer or draw people to him in the paint and then pass to a cutter for a lay-up.
    IF Diaw can replicate Blair's positives in the starting lineup and give it better passing and defense then I'd sanction it. That's not even a given. Plus Blair is the more natural fit since Duncan plays most of his minutes out on the perimeter now. So that would be an initial hurdle to overcome. I imagine the Diaw/Duncan tandem would need a little extra time to gel because of this. In that respect I would just want to see it happen more sooner than later and have it stay that way for the remainder of the year. Unfortunately, I just don't see Pop giving Diaw an established role and sticking with it. As long as the spurs keep winning he's going to continue with this mix and match dink and dunk strategy which will work great up until the playoffs start.

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    Turiaf's box score doesn't show it, but he was easily beaten by both Odom (and Nowitzki?) according to reports..

    Yet if you look at his PER and other box score stats, it would be underwhelming. I remember one other guy whose PER was terrible but who did superb for the Spurs.

    His jersey number was just retired sometime back.

    I didn't see the game, but I can believe that his box looks better than his actual performance. It happens. The main thing I was looking at were those 3 blocks, anyway. Usually when a guy is picking up blocks like that, he's making trouble in the middle. And, like I said, it's still the one piece that concerns me about the playoffs.



    Diaw chose the Spurs.

    Turiaf chose the Heat.

    c'est la vie

    And, yeah, that's the bottom line, isn't it?

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    An asset offensively is what I took that to mean. And I'm not even sold on that tbh. If he is afraid to take open shots teams are going to learn they don't have to guard him. Then what will his value be at this point? As a screen setter and passer? I'd much rather Tiago filled this role.
    I was at the Kings game 2 days ago. What I noticed is he likes to dribble and spin inside which automatically attracts help defense and create open shots for teammates. I don't think he's afraid to take shot. He pass the ball to make plays and not just to get the ball out of his hand. BTW, I think he's a nice guy, He signed my ticket, ended up using my sharpee to give autographs to other fans and returned it after.

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    Diaw is passive but he isn't dumb, if he realizes his defender isn't watching him, he will take the ball to the basket for a layup. And like others have said, since he likes to drive to the basket, that will draw attention, someone will be open, Diaw will find him.

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    IF Diaw can replicate Blair's positives in the starting lineup and give it better passing and defense then I'd sanction it. That's not even a given. Plus Blair is the more natural fit since Duncan plays most of his minutes out on the perimeter now. So that would be an initial hurdle to overcome. I imagine the Diaw/Duncan tandem would need a little extra time to gel because of this. In that respect I would just want to see it happen more sooner than later and have it stay that way for the remainder of the year. Unfortunately, I just don't see Pop giving Diaw an established role and sticking with it. As long as the spurs keep winning he's going to continue with this mix and match dink and dunk strategy which will work great up until the playoffs start.
    Maybe it's rationalization on my part, but I think LJ made a good point in arguing with me on some other thread that Blair can't be too much of a liability in the playoffs as long as he only plays like the first six minutes of each half and no more. For the last 18 minutes of each half Pop will probably mix and match with some combination of Diaw/Splitter/Bonner/Duncan, or possibly just go smallball with Tim.

    As long as Splitter isn't dropped from the rotation completely, I won't be too upset, I guess.

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    Maybe it's rationalization on my part, but I think LJ made a good point in arguing with me on some other thread that Blair can't be too much of a liability in the playoffs as long as he only plays like the first six minutes of each half and no more. For the last 18 minutes of each half Pop will probably mix and match with some combination of Diaw/Splitter/Bonner/Duncan, or possibly just go smallball with Tim.

    As long as Splitter isn't dropped from the rotation completely, I won't be too upset, I guess.
    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but realistically, I would be prepared to see the following alot more often now..

    Splitter: DNP-CD.

    Pop's already getting the masses subconciously ready for this by holding Tiago out of numerous games for what amounts to silly made up reasons.

    We know come playoff time Bonner will get his 20-25 minutes, and Blair will log his 15-20. These are things we know.

    And like a kid with a puzzle, Pop is transfixed with his newest enigma named Boris Diaw, whom he's probably dying to try out in 20 different lineups.

    I'm afraid when it's all said and done Pop will roll with mostly Duncan, Diaw, Blair/Bonner and small ball. Until panic sets in, that is.

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    I think it's safe to say that this was a good pick-up.

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    and the haters have shut up about diaw huh?

    to be fair, though, no one could've predicted it was gonna be this seamless. he was always gonna be a good fit, just didn't think it was gonna complement the team so well

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    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but realistically, I would be prepared to see the following alot more often now..

    Splitter: DNP-CD.

    Pop's already getting the masses subconciously ready for this by holding Tiago out of numerous games for what amounts to silly made up reasons.

    We know come playoff time Bonner will get his 20-25 minutes, and Blair will log his 15-20. These are things we know.

    And like a kid with a puzzle, Pop is transfixed with his newest enigma named Boris Diaw, whom he's probably dying to try out in 20 different lineups.

    I'm afraid when it's all said and done Pop will roll with mostly Duncan, Diaw, Blair/Bonner and small ball. Until panic sets in, that is.
    Another hilariously wrong take? You don't say...

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    What a perfect fit Boris turned out to be! It's also great that Pop gave him Blairs minutes and not Tiagos. That decision is not rocket science but you never know with Pop.

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    Glad to see I call one right once in a while. Turiaf who?

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    and the haters have shut up about diaw huh?

    to be fair, though, no one could've predicted it was gonna be this seamless. he was always gonna be a good fit, just didn't think it was gonna complement the team so well
    As my wife said to me last night, he looks like he's already been here for years.

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    and the haters have shut up about diaw huh?

    to be fair, though, no one could've predicted it was gonna be this seamless. he was always gonna be a good fit, just didn't think it was gonna complement the team so well
    Credit to Diaw and his basketball IQ and the Spurs for knowing it was there.

    Nonetheless, it is still amazing to me there are so few misreads on the offensive end. What is not amazing is this thread makes its reappearance after a game in which he does not miss a shot. At least I dont think he did, have not looked at the box.

    7-7... jeez...
    Last edited by pgardn; 05-18-2012 at 07:23 AM.

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    I can't believe some of the negative things I read in this thread about Diaw. Wow. It just goes to show that none of us here know better than Pop and the Spurs FO.

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