If Jesus Were President Where Would He Stand On The Issues?

**SA210** · 11-02-2005

^^^ No, I'm sure you knew that. It's not news.

I'm sure you understand the point, that even though Jesus would never be president, that if he were, he definitely would not support the death penalty. But you search for comprimising Bush's evil doing, by in a way saying that his lies to go to war are justified if Iraq is liberated, even though the war was based on lies and it has killed and injured thousands of Americans and even more abraod.

All evil, all lies ,all deceit.

Governor Bush, a follower of Jesus Christ? I think not.

**bigzak25** · 11-02-2005

Originally Posted by SA210

I'm sure you understand the point, that even though Jesus would never be president, that if he were, he definitely would not support the death penalty. But you search for comprimising Bush's evil doing, by in a way saying that his lies to go to war are justified if Iraq is liberated, even though the war was based on lies and it has killed and injured thousands of Americans and even more abraod.

All evil, all lies ,all deceit.

Governor Bush, a follower of Jesus Christ? I think not.

I agree, of course Jesus would not be a supporter of the death penalty. as a matter of fact, my viewpoints on the death penalty have changed as well.

i'm not Jesus though. I still want the worst of the worst sent straight to .
the multiple, intentional, no remorse murderers, the rapists and any, and i mean any mother er that touches children.

otherwise? yeah, lets just lock other other ones up. fix the security so there is NO chance of escape. throw a bible in their cell and give them 3 squares and a window. no tv, not without earning it as a special priveledge. 1 hour of exercise a day. enough is enough.

and i have now change my viewpoints on abortion as well. just say no.

'oh, but a woman should have a right to choose!'

well, unless she was raped? she chose when she spread'em. i know it sounds crass, but that is the troof!

now, if you want to spew your bull about Bush's evil doing, show the forum more facts and less biased regurgitated bull .

'there were no weapons! where are the weapons!'

people are weapons. money is a weapon, cuz well financed people can facilitate any smuggling and training of terrorists. Sadaam hated the US if you recall. He had much money if you remember. Osama calls up Sadaam, says, hey mon, howabout you spot me some cash so we can blow up the whitehouse...

'how much and when do you need it...'

not to mention the fact, THAT AS MUCH WORK FOR THE POOR AS YOU CLAIM TO DO, the FACT REMAINS...YOU SIMPLY DON'T GIVE A ABOUT THE IRAQI PEOPLE, THEIR FREEDOM, THEIR FUTURE.

sad really. no wonder your screenname is sa210. how generic can you get.

oh,and by the way, since i AM a follower of Jesus, let me apologize in advance for my preceding outburst. i'm not perfect, you know...

Originally Posted by SA210

I think not.

you really hit the nail on the head with that quote...i'd put it in my sig if i wasn't such a non-conformist...

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i just thought about it...i'm too harsh with my judgement of abortion.

i hate it and am against it will all my will...

but i ask all the pro-choice peeps this....can we at least LIMIT IT TO ONE per woman, per lifetime...how many times does it take to learn a lesson like that?

i mean, that's what really makes me sick about abortion...the women that do it multiple times as a form of birthcontrol...that's just in sick and in irresponsible...

i have friends and family members that have done it...but i also have a long lost brother out there that was given up for adoption...these women don't have to KEEP the baby. firestations everywhere will take newborns, no questions asked. is 9 months too much of a price to pay? i know it's easy for me to speak on this when i don't ever have to make the decision...i know i'm not a woman...i may be way off base here, but i don't think so...

what say ye?

**SA210** · 11-02-2005

Originally Posted by bigsac

I agree, of course Jesus would not be a supporter of the death penalty. as a matter of fact, my viewpoints on the death penalty have changed as well.

i'm not Jesus though. I still want the worst of the worst sent straight to .
the multiple, intentional, no remorse murderers, the rapists and any, and i mean any mother er that touches children.

otherwise? yeah, lets just lock other other ones up. fix the security so there is NO chance of escape. throw a bible in their cell and give them 3 squares and a window. no tv, not without earning it as a special priveledge. 1 hour of exercise a day. enough is enough.

and i have now change my viewpoints on abortion as well. just say no.

'oh, but a woman should have a right to choose!'

well, unless she was raped? she chose when she spread'em. i know it sounds crass, but that is the troof!

now, if you want to spew your bull about Bush's evil doing, show the forum more facts and less biased regurgitated bull .

'there were no weapons! where are the weapons!'

people are weapons. money is a weapon, cuz well financed people can facilitate any smuggling and training of terrorists. Sadaam hated the US if you recall. He had much money if you remember. Osama calls up Sadaam, says, hey mon, howabout you spot me some cash so we can blow up the whitehouse...

'how much and when do you need it...'

not to mention the fact, THAT AS MUCH WORK FOR THE POOR AS YOU CLAIM TO DO, the FACT REMAINS...YOU SIMPLY DON'T GIVE A ABOUT THE IRAQI PEOPLE, THEIR FREEDOM, THEIR FUTURE.

sad really. no wonder your screenname is sa210. how generic can you get.

oh,and by the way, since i AM a follower of Jesus, let me apologize in advance for my preceding outburst. i'm not perfect, you know...

you really hit the nail on the head with that quote...i'd put it in my sig if i wasn't such a non-conformist...

On the death penalty, you say you want "the worst of the worst" people sent straight to , meaning you support their death. If we were just talking "politics" straight up, I could see your point. But this thread has brought Jesus Christ into the discussion of politics which is kind of an oxymoron, but we are discussing it.

So since Jesus and his beliefs are being discussed, then how how could you support death to someone when that is up to God to decide? You try to comprimise by saying it helps others in Iraq, which has yet to be proven.

And your previous posts, you seemed to be a loving person with a want for change. But soon after, your posts start having more and more profanities, hostility. Now Jesus does not like this BigSac.

Bush is an "evil doer" as he likes to say. Show proof? Give me a break. It's amazing how people continue to spin an obvious failure. Regurgited? Yea, you sure do.

What's wrong BigSac, why are you screaming at me, questioning the good work I do for our poor (work I "claim" to do) just because you get upset? As I said before in a post to you, Gov. Bush (

the humanitarian) is NOT doing this for the poor in Iraq. He doesn't even care about the poor here. And if I didn't care about the less fortunate in Iraq, I wouldn't complain about Bush killing them. Boy, they sure have a future don't they BigSac? you make alot of sense.

And you resort to calling me generic and criticising my screenname SA210? How generic is that?

I love SA and Sa's area code is 210.

Should I pick something with more "troof" as you say?
Well, since you "claim" to be a Jesus follower; you seem to start with name calling, shouting and using non Jesus type language, but you try to make it seem ok because you apologize and say we all are not perfect. Compromising again I see? That's like when Bush lied about WMD's, got caught lying, thousands dead, then said well Iraq's better off without Saddam. Comprimise.

But then again in this political topic, we are talking about Jesus, the real "troof".
But thank you for your insults, I appreciate it.

**MiNuS** · 11-02-2005

She would be a moderate / neither Democrat nor Republican.

**cecil collins** · 11-03-2005

A socialist or anarchist, as I don't think capatilism would be up Jesus' alley.

**RandomGuy** · 11-05-2005

Honestly, I think Jesus would be about the same on the political spectrum as the Dali Lama.

From the political compass website.

**bigzak25** · 11-07-2005

Originally Posted by SA210

On the death penalty, you say you want "the worst of the worst" people sent straight to , meaning you support their death. If we were just talking "politics" straight up, I could see your point. But this thread has brought Jesus Christ into the discussion of politics which is kind of an oxymoron, but we are discussing it.

So since Jesus and his beliefs are being discussed, then how how could you support death to someone when that is up to God to decide? You try to comprimise by saying it helps others in Iraq, which has yet to be proven.

And your previous posts, you seemed to be a loving person with a want for change. But soon after, your posts start having more and more profanities, hostility. Now Jesus does not like this BigSac.

Bush is an "evil doer" as he likes to say. Show proof? Give me a break. It's amazing how people continue to spin an obvious failure. Regurgited? Yea, you sure do.

What's wrong BigSac, why are you screaming at me, questioning the good work I do for our poor (work I "claim" to do) just because you get upset? As I said before in a post to you, Gov. Bush (

the humanitarian) is NOT doing this for the poor in Iraq. He doesn't even care about the poor here. And if I didn't care about the less fortunate in Iraq, I wouldn't complain about Bush killing them. Boy, they sure have a future don't they BigSac? you make alot of sense.

And you resort to calling me generic and criticising my screenname SA210? How generic is that?

I love SA and Sa's area code is 210.

Should I pick something with more "troof" as you say?
Well, since you "claim" to be a Jesus follower; you seem to start with name calling, shouting and using non Jesus type language, but you try to make it seem ok because you apologize and say we all are not perfect. Compromising again I see? That's like when Bush lied about WMD's, got caught lying, thousands dead, then said well Iraq's better off without Saddam. Comprimise.

But then again in this political topic, we are talking about Jesus, the real "troof".
But thank you for your insults, I appreciate it.

SA210, 1st let me apologize, SINCERELY, for my previous outburst.

uncalled for on my part. i am ashamed of it.

since i am now back from my failed attempt at a sabbatical form Spurstalk, who can keep away, really?

anyhow, now we can discuss the issues further.

let me also say that I am sorry for my cursing. I am sorry, and quite frankly, embarrassed that i made fun of what it actually a Good screenname as I now understand it is representative of your love for the good city of San Antonio, my birthplace, and where i rightfully call my Home on Earth.

so Thanks for showing me the way brother. I especially payed attention to your 'no compromise' points.

I have taken them to heart.

I believe Jesus would be against the Death Penalty in ALL CASES.
I believe Jesus would be against Abortion in ALL CASES.

My beliefs now concur with our Savior.

Thanks again man, I hope there are no hard feelings.