Saints marching from S.A.

[PeterBurns]

Actually the reason you got banned was because you got caught redhanded not being forthright in your intentions, but maybe you were just trying to be diplomatic, but instead of owning up, you continued to deny it.

Which is entire Bull . When I put up the site, I put it up to have it to support the Saints in 2006. So get your facts straight friend.

You maintained for several pages that it was not your intentions to have the teams permanently placed in SA.

Again, when I put the site up, that is 100% the idea. When this first came out, I was 100% for having some team here. I even posted here, that I thought the Saints Opportunity would be a great one, albeit unforunate and weird one, to show the NFL if we could support a team in the future. In fact, I said that at least this gives the city the chance to show if we can or cannot support it.

Here is where I give SaintsReport.com credit. When I posted on the site, people, including yourself and maybe even LC (before it got ugly), provided me some good insight to what you were going through. It was then when I even changed the site (And no believe what you want, I did not do it after the fact. People here at SpursTalk who know me personally, know that not the person I am) and my opinion that the Saints should stay in New Orleans when feasible. I didn't not think it would be ready for 2006, so I continued with the San Antonio 2006 site.

So I do give credit for the site for explaining why it is important for the team to someday return, and I believe it in now. Does that change the fact that I would like to see them here for 2006? No way in .



And actually you and I had several good exchanges on the subject before things took a turn,

The SR.com guys questioned your true intentions, and then they did seem to gang up on you,

However after a little research by Mr. Sparkle from your posts here, it was obvious that you truely wanted the team to stay here permanently. I understand that, but you will BSing everyone, and they all knew it.

Again true. Before I ever posted on SaintsReport and put up the site, I wanted a team here. Listen, I got 50+ good emails from people telling me stories about what the Saints mean to them, and why they should stay, and much of that stuck with me. But again, that doesn't change the fact that I still think they should play in San Antonio. So I never BS'd anyone. If I wanted the Saints for good, why wouldn't I have put up SASaints.com, SanAntonioSaints.com....etc.

Then you belittled our fundraising efforts. Thats why I think you got banned to be honest, a lot of people on SR.com worked hard, and raised money and donated money to us and you implied it was waisted or not well spent and told us if we wanted to help give it to some people who lost everything.
However you apparrently were not aware that some of the people organizing our fundraisers were actually people that lost everything.

I wrote 2 posts on the topic, that I felt that if you wanted to make a difference to someone, don't spend money on flying a banner over a college stadium about a football team, give it to a family that can use those funds. Even if people lost everything, I can't believe that someone would be diluted enough to believe that paying for the fuel of an airplane and banner company would be more important than helping a family who's kids don't have food or clothing. Am I wrong? This is a billon dollar decision, and one that won't be made over a airplane flying with a banner.......

Then I read your posts here wanting to boycott SR.com and all things Saints, calling yourself the greatest Smack taker ever.

Did I say boycott. no, In fact I visit the site each day and read up what is going on, just because I can't post doesn't mean the site it not good for info. I'm a Saints Fans my friend, why would I boycott all things Saints?????
As far as the greatest ever......I'll let my record stand for itself.

I appriciated your initial effort of civility, and I engaged you in a reasonable conversation, but with just a little turmoil you flopped to the other extreme.

Never.
When I was accused of something that I did not ever do, that is when I reply with prudence. If I posted that you were a racist, bigot, and said that you told me that All Mexicans are s. You would refute the comments, no different than I replied about my false accusations.

The jabs at our fundraising were uncalled for, and we knew you were not forthright in you telling us you do not want the team in SA permanently

Sorry about that. Noble effort. And pretty cool that you can raise that money. Again, I still think it's better put to use elsewhere, but it's your money. As far as the SA Permanently, I've told you enough about that already

Then to run here and demand your fellow Spurs fans Boycott SR.com and fight to keep them here, well, disappoints me.

Show me where I told them to boycott them.....

[Sports Writer JJ]

Also i do agree our mayor is definately running his mouth wayy too much...If none of this had been voiced, no one would be fighting right now.

I agree, but the real villian is Benson, different story there though.

I am not aware of any decisions not to let anyone on from SA simply because they were from SA.

However I will tell you if they did it was because of some of the horrible things people were saying.

I am sure that noone from here was responsable for that but they wanted to minimize it as much as possible.

If you want to boycott it, I guess thats you choice.

If you wanna enroll and you cant get in, email the webmaster, I did, and I got an explanation.

[PeterBurns]

Now that is owned. Not the "utsagolfpb" definition of "owned". But truly owned.

Oops Again. Loose.
Don't worry. Sooner or later you'll get one. Keep trying kiddo
Keep that chin up!

[Loose Cannon]

If you had explained it like that you wouldn't have been flamed and banned.

"At first I wanted the Saints here but after hearing about what people went through I just wanted them here for 2006". Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. And while I question whether you are telling the truth or not (I suspect you are crawfishing), that would have been accepted on SaintsReport and it wouldn't have gotten as ugly as it did.

But you handled yourself like . Your posts came off as troll posts. Others from SA have managed to stay because they know how to handle themselves.

And your insults of our fundraising efforts were blatantly offensive. It was patronizing and insulting to the efforts of many. I'm not going to get into the merits of the efforts with you because that's for another thread, but you have no right to come in and tell Louisianians trying to save a piece of their state that they are doing something wrong or inappropriate. You have no clue.

[PeterBurns]

Owned is when they job Vince Young from winning the Heisman. If they give it to Bush, it will be the biggest freaking joke in voting history.

[PeterBurns]

If you had explained it like that you wouldn't have been flamed and banned.

If people would have responded to me in a normal fashion, and not throw darts they would see that's what I put on SaintsReport from Day 1. But too many people thought I was a guy holding a San Antonio Saints Flag and saying F-The people of Katrina. Which is not right.

"At first I wanted the Saints here but after hearing about what people went through I just wanted them here for 2006". Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. And while I question whether you are telling the truth or not (I suspect you are crawfishing), that would have been accepted on SaintsReport and it wouldn't have gotten as ugly as it did.

But you handled yourself like . Your posts came off as troll posts. Others from SA have managed to stay because they know how to handle themselves.

No. A Troll is one who posts for the fact of getting a rise out of someone. A Post that makes no sense, and is clearly there to ignite a fire. Since I have no access, show me a post from my history at SaintsReport that said anything bad about the people of NO or LA?

And your insults of our fundraising efforts were blatantly offensive. It was patronizing and insulting to the efforts of many. I'm not going to get into the merits of the efforts with you because that's for another thread, but you have no right to come in and tell Louisianians trying to save a piece of their state that they are doing something wrong or inappropriate.

You may be right, I'm sure people weren't thrilled but am I not en led to an opinion that I think the money could be better put to use?

I even posted there, that I thought the effort was great, and that it was cool to see people bond together, but what if they did that to help out the families that you feeling for.

You have no clue

Are you from Louisiana?

[Sports Writer JJ]

Show me where I told them to boycott them.....

My bad, that was Mouse that said to boycott, I stand by all other points though.

Again I believe your change of heart about keeping the team in San Antonio permanently, but as LC points out, that was not conveyed to us at SR.com well.


and it seems we are all alot closer to an understanding and I think VY will not win the heisman. southern cal....

Everyone LOVES us ingc and I am sick of it!

[Loose Cannon]

You didn't directly insult anyone. But your posts were smug and inflammatory in a smarmy, "jab at you" sort of way.

As for the fundraiser and your opinion of it... common sense would tell you just to keep it to yourself. When the very people involved in the fundraiser have lost homes and jobs, a San Antonian coming in and belittling the efforts if VERY tacky.

As for me, I'm originally from Louisiana. I contributed to the fundraiser. I wrote the text part of the flyers for the Miami game. I handed them out at the game. I gave money to the radio fund. If my family and friends from Louisiana tell me that they want to put the effort in to keep the Saints, that's good enough for me. I value the opinion of those who were directly affected more than that of a nonfactor such as yourself.

[Shiner Bock Girl]

I agree, but the real villian is Benson, different story there though.

I am not aware of any decisions not to let anyone on from SA simply because they were from SA.

However I will tell you if they did it was because of some of the horrible things people were saying.

I am sure that noone from here was responsable for that but they wanted to minimize it as much as possible.

If you want to boycott it, I guess thats you choice.

If you wanna enroll and you cant get in, email the webmaster, I did, and I got an explanation.

I agree again on Benson because he obviously told Hardberger something to give SA hope. If he said anything he should have kept it under the table if he is not planning on making any decisions till after the football season. As far as saintsreport, i really do not care about that site because it is full of hate for SA so i'd rather not go there. I was only telling you our experience and those who really meant to go there NOT to bash to NOLA. But like every message board, there will always be someone who may screw it up for everyone else.

[Sports Writer JJ]

You may be right, I'm sure people weren't thrilled but am I not en led to an opinion that I think the money could be better put to use?

I even posted there, that I thought the effort was great, and that it was cool to see people bond together, but what if they did that to help out the families that you feeling for.



Are you from Louisiana?

You are also en led to the backlash of your opinion if it offends people.

Some of the organizes of the fund raisers were actually those who lost it all.

that was a touchy subject the fundraising...

[Sports Writer JJ]

Alright guys I am out, I have a dinner date...

I'll check in later or tomorrow to see if we are all settled..

[PeterBurns]

My bad, that was Mouse that said to boycott, I stand by all other points though.

No problem, You have to understand that Mouse is one step above the game. His posts are meant to expedite feelings. And most people here know that.

Again I believe your change of heart about keeping the team in San Antonio permanently, but as LC points out, that was not conveyed to us at SR.com well.

I didn't get a chance to. Before I knew it, I was being accused of things, and never got a chance to post that before I got banned

and it seems we are all alot closer to an understanding and I think VY will not win the heisman. southern cal....

Everyone LOVES us ingc and I am sick of it!

Agreed.

[Loose Cannon]

Alright guys I am out, I have a dinner date...

Tell him we said o.

I'm out as well. Happy hour calls.

[PeterBurns]

You didn't directly insult anyone. But your posts were smug and inflammatory in a smarmy, "jab at you" sort of way.

Move like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Just kidding. Sorry.

As for the fundraiser and your opinion of it... common sense would tell you just to keep it to yourself. When the very people involved in the fundraiser have lost homes and jobs, a San Antonian coming in and belittling the efforts if VERY tacky.

Yes, you were right. Nobody ever accused me of having good taste. , I married a dog of a woman.

As for me, I'm originally from Louisiana. I contributed to the fundraiser. I wrote the text part of the flyers for the Miami game. I handed them out at the game. I gave money to the radio fund. If my family and friends from Louisiana tell me that they want to put the effort in to keep the Saints, that's good enough for me. I value the opinion of those who were directly affected more than that of a nonfactor such as yourself.

That is cool. Believe it or not, I do admire the determination.

This appears to be the end of a fun hobby of mine.
What else can we disagree on?

[Shiner Bock Girl]

Good Lord, who listens to Mouse....LOL...Well i better get dressed for work, been on wayyy tooo long...Good nite all....

[Oh, Gee!!]

Alright guys I am out, I have a dinner date...

I'll check in later or tomorrow to see if we are all settled..

I thought you were leaving. I can still see you in this thread

[Shiner Bock Girl]

I thought you were leaving. I can still see you in this thread

I know, i'm web addicted...I'll stay logged on till i'm out the door...LOL....Which should be 6pm...I'm very talented, i can get dressed and type at the same time...HA HA

[Oh, Gee!!]

I know, i'm web addicted...I'll stay logged on till i'm out the door...LOL....Which should be 6pm...I'm very talented, i can get dressed and type at the same time...HA HA

are you flirting with me?

[Shiner Bock Girl]

are you flirting with me?

LOLLLL...guess you see i'm back...GOd I HATEEEE nite shift and not having internet access at work, then again if we did, none of my patients would get seen...LOL...