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    If you see the people that Obama wants to see stay are law abiding, young people who are educated. The more educated Mexicans in the USA, the better.
    I don't necessarily disagree with the policy, I disagree with the blatant political pandering and the blatant and uncons utional overreach of the Executive Branch.

    IMHO this is a sign of clear desperation in the Obama campaign. Incompetence as well. He fired this bullet a little early.

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    smurf talking points.
    it's because you're an idiot who needs things explained to you like a 5 year-old.

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    it's because you're an idiot who needs things explained to you like a 5 year-old.
    Rah Rah Blue Team! Rah Rah Blue Team! Rah Rah Blue Team!...

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    Demanding I post the text of relevant US immigration law as it applies to illegal immigrants on a ing message board is blatant ing trolling you freaking asshole.

    If you have a few weeks to waste, here is a link to the full text of all relevant US immigration laws.

    http://library.uwb.edu/guides/usimmi...gislation.html
    I'm not demanding anything. Just a request to back up your bull claim.

    Instead, you get all butthurt, throw out some frivolous links and tell me I should back your claim.

    Per the usual.

    Ftr, it didn't take me weeks to find out what the law says regarding prosecutorial discretion in deportation issues. It was just a matter of minutes.

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    We are a cons utional republic, not a dictatorship.
    UCA is a kleptocratic, vampire squid plutocracy, run by 1% for the 1%.

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    it's because you're an idiot who needs things explained to you like a 5 year-old.

    BTW, wad, rewriting immigration law is NOT an executive branch policy prerogative.

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    I don't necessarily disagree with the policy, I disagree with the blatant political pandering and the blatant and uncons utional overreach of the Executive Branch.

    IMHO this is a sign of clear desperation in the Obama campaign. Incompetence as well. He fired this bullet a little early.
    lol blatant

    You're a ing idiot.

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    BTW, wad, rewriting immigration law is NOT an executive branch policy prerogative.
    he's not re-writing anything. he is implementing his policy on execution of the law, idiot.

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    LOL Executive order = prosecutorial discretion

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    he's not re-writing anything. he is implementing his policy on execution of the law, idiot.
    Even YOU can't be that stupid.

    He is issuing an executive order to ignore the law passed by congress.

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    LOL Executive order = prosecutorial discretion
    lol prosecutors fall within the executive branch lol

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    Even YOU can't be that stupid.

    He is issuing an executive order to ignore the law.
    it's an order to his branch on how to enforce the law

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    Even YOU can't be that stupid.

    He is issuing an executive order to ignore the law passed by congress.
    which law in particular?
    stop being such a demanding troll!

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    it's an order to his branch on how to enforce the law






    Rah Rah Blue Team! Rah Rah Blue Team!

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    Rah Rah Blue Team! Rah Rah Blue Team!
    You say it's an unwise, stupid policy. Fine. You say it's pandering for latino votes. Fine. You say it will bite him in the ass. Fine. But it doesn't violate the seperation of powers. It doesn't make him a dictator. He's doing what he thinks is right by the powers vested in him as the president. I'm not cheering for the policy, I'm just pointing out to you that it falls within his powers as chief executive.

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    You say it's an unwise, stupid policy. Fine. You say it's pandering for latino votes. Fine. You say it will bite him in the ass. Fine. But it doesn't violate the seperation of powers. It doesn't make him a dictator. He's doing what he thinks is right by the powers vested in him as the president. I'm not cheering for the policy, I'm just pointing out to you that it falls within his powers as chief executive.
    You obviously have a reading comprehension issue. I have said in THIS THREAD TWICE that if I was dictator I would not only enact this policy but I would go even further and give the law abiding, employed undo ented aliens a ten year probation path to clear citizenship.

    However I am not the dictator.

    Neither is President Obama.

    He has no cons utional authority to start writing and rewriting laws from the White House.

    This DOES NOT fall within his power as President.

    Our cons utional process may be ugly and at times disfunctional, but it is the job of congress to write laws, not the President.

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    This DOES NOT fall within his power as President.

    Our cons utional process may be ugly and at times disfunctional, but it is the job of congress to write laws, not the President.

    you'll never get it, I guess.

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    you'll never get it, I guess.
    Your blind obedience to blue team talking points?

    Nope, never will.

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    Cruz and Dewhurst agree: Obama immigration shift is ‘blatantly’ and ‘cravenly’ political

    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-o...%99-political/

    Eat , mofos. It's called The Bully Pulpit and the power of the in bency.

    As if Repugs NEVER did anything that was blatantly, purely political (like pass anti-sharia laws).

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    Your blind obedience to blue team talking points?

    Nope, never will.
    where is red teams outrage about this uncons utional overreach of the Executive Branch?

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    where is red teams outrage about this uncons utional overreach of the Executive Branch?
    Just a statement of fact.

    It was simple blatant political pandering and an uncons utional overreach of the Executive Branch.

    You can wave your blue pom poms and defend it if you want to.

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    CC, I hate Obama but i think that you are being stupid and naive ont his one. This is not a whole new level. if you think that it is then you have been living under a rock. You need to think about your blue team remarks too because all I am heaing from you is "boo boo blue team."

    And what law is he contravening exactly?

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    Cruz and Dewhurst agree: Obama immigration shift is ‘blatantly’ and ‘cravenly’ political

    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-o...%99-political/

    Eat , mofos. It's called The Bully Pulpit and the power of the in bency.
    Yay blue team!

    As if Repugs NEVER did anything that was blatantly, purely political (like pass anti-sharia laws).
    democrats = republicans

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    CC, I hate Obama but i think that you are being stupid and naive ont his one. This is not a whole new level. if you think that it is then you have been living under a rock. You need to think about your blue team remarks too because all I am heaing from you is "boo boo blue team."

    And what law is he contravening exactly?
    He is writing new law by authorizing work visas for existing illegal aliens...these aren't the ones playing by the rules and (pre-entry) applying and waiting for theirs. If you can find that authorization in existing law then feel free to show me.

    Again, I'm not saying it's bad policy, I'm saying it was executive overreach. We will never get comprehensive immigration reform if Obama keeps poisoning the well by turning this into a political football.

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    He is writing new law by authorizing work visas for existing illegal aliens...these aren't the ones playing by the rules and (pre-entry) applying and waiting for theirs. If you can find that authorization in existing law then feel free to show me.
    Um can you find me a law that authorizes him to take a piss?

    That's not how presumption works on any level. What law is he breaking? I do not know how authorization of visas is even legislated one way or another.

    If there is a law it does actually direct contravene then I guarantee you that your red team will be all over with all the lawyers they have laying about.

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