Most hated players that played for your team

[baseline bum]

Back rehab, then... fact of the matter is, Barkley was hobbled for years prior to demanding the trade.

As for the team, they may all indeed be underrated, but KJ with Barkley was a thrice-operated PG, not the 22-11 force pre 1992, Chambers was in decline and only on the 1992-93 team, and Majerle was shown to be a quality, but unspectacular player in Cleveland and Miami. Ceballos could score, and did whenever he wasn't injured, but he was injured a lot, and was then traded to LA. Manning was solid, but oft-injured and was in decline as well, and AC Green and Ainge were nothing but role players at best.

Nobody wins the le by themselves (save for maybe Hakeem in 1994), but the point is that Barkley had only a few select random All-Stars, several in decline former All-Stars, but no dominant All-Stars or other Superstar, not even in the same way that Payton had Kemp, Malone had Stockton, Jordan had Pippen, etc.

So, after trying to be the man on some mediocre to talented teams but do so without the aid of a true dominant #2 for roughly 12 years, an aging and now often injured Barkley requested a trade to a previous champion that still had a shot at a ring with his addition.

It's not anywhere close to a 26-YO, in-prime MVP joining forces with two other in-prime All-Stars in a manufactured venture to win a decade's worth of les outside of the cir stantial aspects of a regular 10-12-year prime career.

If Richard Dumas wasn't such a -up those mid-90s Suns would have been ridiculously stacked. Damn I wanted to see them ring.

[timtonymanu]

Forgot about Steve Smith.

I wasn't around during the Rodman/Del Negro era but I know they are another popular choice.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If Richard Dumas wasn't such a -up those mid-90s Suns would have been ridiculously stacked. Damn I wanted to see them ring.

KJ never being the same after Duckworth ed up his hamstring in the playoffs was also a factor too. The Suns were also running a train on the league in 95 before Danny Manning's injury.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'd take Barbosa, Diaw and Marion back in a second. Much better than the likes of Childress, Warrick, Shannon Brown etc.

I probably wouldn't hate any of them if they weren't so overpaid, and the common denominator with the overpaid role players is Sarver ironically enough. Barbosa and Diaw got their stupid contracts because Sarver didn't want to replace Colangelo so he had the coach play GM, while Warrick and Childress got their stupid contracts because Sarver didn't want to pay Kerr so he hired an agent to play GM.

His dumbass is too stupid to realize that Childress's abortion of a contract alone that was given out because he hired Childress's agent as the GM is more of a drain on his wallet than the qualified GM he refuses to hire. As much as Sarver has the reputation of cheap, his stupidity has been a much bigger issue for the Suns than his cheapness.

[Huey Freeman]

Antoine Walker
Lamar Odom

[da_suns_fan]

Back rehab, then... fact of the matter is, Barkley was hobbled for years prior to demanding the trade.

As for the team, they may all indeed be underrated, but KJ with Barkley was a thrice-operated PG, not the 22-11 force pre 1992, Chambers was in decline and only on the 1992-93 team, and Majerle was shown to be a quality, but unspectacular player in Cleveland and Miami. Ceballos could score, and did whenever he wasn't injured, but he was injured a lot, and was then traded to LA. Manning was solid, but oft-injured and was in decline as well, and AC Green and Ainge were nothing but role players at best.

Nobody wins the le by themselves (save for maybe Hakeem in 1994), but the point is that Barkley had only a few select random All-Stars, several in decline former All-Stars, but no dominant All-Stars or other Superstar, not even in the same way that Payton had Kemp, Malone had Stockton, Jordan had Pippen, etc.

So, after trying to be the man on some mediocre to talented teams but do so without the aid of a true dominant #2 for roughly 12 years, an aging and now often injured Barkley requested a trade to a previous champion that still had a shot at a ring with his addition.

It's not anywhere close to a 26-YO, in-prime MVP joining forces with two other in-prime All-Stars in a manufactured venture to win a decade's worth of les outside of the cir stantial aspects of a regular 10-12-year prime career.

Were just not going to agree.

KJ made all star team in 94 and Majerle started for west all star team in 95. Neither were as good as a Wade or a Pippen but Barkley had all the talent in the world around him compared to what Lebron had in Cleveland.

[da_suns_fan]

KJ had multiple 40 point games against the Rockets in 95:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...505140HOU.html

KJ brought his "A" game. Charles did not.

[baseline bum]

I can't understand the Rocket fans hating on Pippen. I mean, what did you expect him to produce when he was given a Mario Charlmers kind of role to shoot desperation threes at the shot clock buzzer when the Barkley/Olajuwon hero-ball isos broke down?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

KJ had multiple 40 point games against the Rockets in 95:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...505140HOU.html

KJ brought his "A" game. Charles did not.

True, Barkley has himself to blame for losing that series. KJ wasn't the one playing 36 holes of golf and getting drunk the day before games.

[da_suns_fan]

Ugh...Wesley Person. Burn. In. :

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=3410,1945500

[baseline bum]

True, Barkley has himself to blame for losing that series. KJ wasn't the one playing 36 holes of golf and getting drunk the day before games.

Was he getting drunk on the bench in this one?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...505130HOU.html

[djohn2oo8]

I can't understand the Rocket fans hating on Pippen. I mean, what did you expect him to produce when he was given a Mario Charlmers kind of role to shoot desperation threes at the shot clock buzzer when the Barkley/Olajuwon hero-ball isos broke down?

The way he went about blasting his teammates , and the city..

[baseline bum]

The way he went about blasting his teammates , and the city..

Barkley deserved to get blasted, real talk.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Was he getting drunk on the bench in this one?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...505130HOU.html

I know a cop who worked security for the team at the time and he said Barkley really started to get out of hand once they took a 3-1 lead, so idk about that one. I know Majerle did plenty of drinking with him too after they took the 3-1 lead.

[djohn2oo8]

Barkley deserved to get blasted, real talk.

No doubt.

[jag]

Rasho Nesterovic
Jacques Vaughn
Nazr Mohammed
Richard Jefferson
Michael Finley
Keith Bogans
Anthony Carter

Didn't hate any of them, but I hated seeing them on the floor.

[djohn2oo8]

Not a single spursfan mentioned Devin Brown?

[baseline bum]

Not a single spursfan mentioned Devin Brown?

Who cares about blowing one regular season game?

[djohn2oo8]

Who cares about blowing one regular season game?

Seen it mentioned multiple times before in different threads. Surprised a few people thought that was one of the most painful moments.

[Venti Quattro]

Ron Artest
Matt Barnes

uh and we have Kobe.

[Harry Callahan]

Dennis Rodman (quit on team, psycho)
Mychal Thompson (half hearted effort in SA)
Maurice Cheeks (didn't want to be in SA - quit on a team with Sean Elliott, David Robinson, and Terry mings all in their athletic prime).

[LakerHater]

Mo Cheeks
Jack Haley

[Budkin]

Matt Bonner
Charles Smith
Samaki Walker
J.R. Reid
Nick Van Exel

[JMarkJohns]

Were just not going to agree.

KJ made all star team in 94 and Majerle started for west all star team in 95. Neither were as good as a Wade or a Pippen but Barkley had all the talent in the world around him compared to what Lebron had in Cleveland.

You seem to think I'm saying Barkley had zero talent. I'm not. I never did.

The fact that a 33-YO, 12-year veteran Barkley once requested a trade to a contender doesn't undercut his criticism of a 26-YO, in-prime MVP LeBron for joining two other in-prime All-Stars in Miami to manufacture an in-prime dynasty independent of standard/typical NBA cir stances.

Barkley was getting old, was often injured (missed 44 games previous three seasons in Phoenix and over half with Houston), and saw his window basically closed as the MVP leading a team to a le. He coattailed and failed.

What LeBron did is not anything similar.

[Killakobe81]

Rodman and Karl Malone hands down. Both were OK on my Lakers team, especially Malone. But I hated those guys so much especially the post MAdonna, Bulls flopper version of Rodnman. I didnt mind Rodman in Detroit.

Special shout-put goes to the wives of Doug Christie and Glen Rice ...both were annoying media s.