Has anyone noticed that women nowadays...

[TE]

I don't know where you guys live but I see gays walking around together but never see public displays of affection. And what's wrong with trying to get some equal rights? It's just the same as women's rights and black rights back in the day

Where I live, it's a common thing to see gays walk around holding hands, holding each other, the like. It depends on the location of course (Movie Theaters, Carnivals, Malls, etc). It's an arbitrary thing when it comes to the comfort/discomfort that's associated with seeing such display. You're not discomforted by it, I am. I am not only discomforted, I'm disgusted tbh.

[silverblk mystix]

Well it's my word association. Just like gays got a right to do what they do, I got my right to associate acceptance with condoning the accepted. It probably does come off as superior but gays must accept that they'll likely never be viewed with the same dignity and respect as straights.

I agree with your black friends, btw.

I understand- it is not the first time I have delved into this topic.

If you can look back at how some black people were treated...for example the movie "the help" had a scene where blacks could not use the same restrooms as white people.

Today, that sounds horrible. But this was the reality a few decades ago. How would blacks feel about getting that treatment today?

Yet, blacks and whites and hispanics and asians think nothing of giving gays the same treatment ---TODAY!

Because, everyone just accepts that Gays are in some freak group ....in some..."not normal" group...and ---you said it yourself...

"gays must accept...."

This is exactly what whites said about blacks ("they should know their place")...what some say today about illegal immigrants....what some say about a lot of people who are less than the "normal" group.

No one is prepared to hear this though..it is not easy to call a thing by its real name when it goes against everything you were taught or everything that you
held dear. It is terrifying to see what may be painful to see.

[AussieFanKurt]

Where I live, it's a common thing to see gays walk around holding hands, holding each other, the like. It depends on the location of course (Movie Theaters, Carnivals, Malls, etc). It's an arbitrary thing when it comes to the comfort/discomfort that's associated with seeing such display. You're not discomforted by it, I am. I am not only discomforted, I'm disgusted tbh.

I thought you meant like full on kissing and the such. Is your life that easy that seeing two men hold hands worries you because I can tell you I have much greater worries than that.

[TE]

I understand- it is not the first time I have delved into this topic.

If you can look back at how some black people were treated...for example the movie "the help" had a scene where blacks could not use the same restrooms as white people.

Today, that sounds horrible. But this was the reality a few decades ago. How would blacks feel about getting that treatment today?

Yet, blacks and whites and hispanics and asians think nothing of giving gays the same treatment ---TODAY!

Because, everyone just accepts that Gays are in some freak group ....in some..."not normal" group...and ---you said it yourself...

"gays must accept...."

This is exactly what whites said about blacks ("they should know their place")...what some say today about illegal immigrants....what some say about a lot of people who are less than the "normal" group.

No one is prepared to hear this though..it is not easy to call a thing by its real name when it goes against everything you were taught or everything that you
held dear. It is terrifying to see what may be painful to see.

Gays think it's normal to condone sexual activities, I don't. I think that's the root of it all.

[TE]

I thought you meant like full on kissing and the such. Is your life that easy that seeing two men hold hands worries you because I can tell you I have much greater worries than that.

It worries me because at this rate, when my kids venture out into the real world with or without me, they'll lay witness to this type of display.

That worries me. I don't want my kids to begin to think it's okay for people to offer such public display of affection.

[silverblk mystix]

I understand- it is not the first time I have delved into this topic.

If you can look back at how some black people were treated...for example the movie "the help" had a scene where blacks could not use the same restrooms as white people.

Today, that sounds horrible. But this was the reality a few decades ago. How would blacks feel about getting that treatment today?

Yet, blacks and whites and hispanics and asians think nothing of giving gays the same treatment ---TODAY!

Because, everyone just accepts that Gays are in some freak group ....in some..."not normal" group...and ---you said it yourself...

"gays must accept...."

This is exactly what whites said about blacks ("they should know their place")...what some say today about illegal immigrants....what some say about a lot of people who are less than the "normal" group.

No one is prepared to hear this though..it is not easy to call a thing by its real name when it goes against everything you were taught or everything that you
held dear. It is terrifying to see what may be painful to see.

I really believe this by the way...


but I have the nasty in' habit of joking about gays and making light of ...

[AussieFanKurt]

Gays think it's normal to condone sexual activities, I don't. I think that's the root of it all.

Well it is, they are normal people. Why shouldn't they be able to conduct themselves how they want. I can assure you they don't care what someone like you thinks. They aren't hurting anyone walking around holding hands. To them, we are the same. Conflicting sexual views yet you don't hear them ing about how much they hate seeing a man and a woman holding hands. OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

[TE]

I really believe this by the way...


but I have the nasty in' habit of joking about gays and making light of ...

Yeah, and the anti-gay movement occurring will be so active and advanced in the future that perhaps Kori and timvp will have to banish any and all gay slurs...

[silverblk mystix]

It worries me because at this rate, when my kids venture out into the real world with or without me, they'll lay witness to this type of display.

That worries me. I don't want my kids to begin to think it's okay for people to offer such public display of affection.

I lived in Hollyweird for 17 years...

One summer my boy went to spend the summer with me and one day we were driving and my son goes...

ughhh...dad...ugghhh...

I ask him what happened?

Two guys making out!

We had to have some serious discussions....

I think kids can understand a lot. Being gay isn't contagious.

[silverblk mystix]

Yeah, and the anti-gay movement occurring will be so active and advanced in the future that perhaps Kori and timvp will have to banish any and all gay slurs...

Well, it would probably be for the best.

Being anonymous here is probably the only saving grace..for now.

[TE]

Well it is, they are normal people. Why shouldn't they be able to conduct themselves how they want. I can assure you they don't care what someone like you thinks. They aren't hurting anyone walking around holding hands. To them, we are the same. Conflicting sexual views yet you don't hear them ing about how much they hate seeing a man and a woman holding hands. OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

You sound mad bro

Anyway, to each his own.

[silverblk mystix]

Good topic...

Gotta get an early start tomorrow.

[AussieFanKurt]

You sound mad bro

Anyway, to each his own.

didn't know you could hear me.

Yeah everyone's en led to their opinion, yours isn't extreme any ways so meh

just having a good debate

[HeatChamps]

have become more and more okay to men being open to sexuals?

Ask young women around and I gurantee you'll get a very similar openness.

Good to know they are ok with you.

[TE]

Good to know they are ok with you.

[Reck]

This is not really an issue for most women as they tend to be more understanding about that sort of thing.

[MannyIsGod]

Well it's my word association. Just like gays got a right to do what they do, I got my right to associate acceptance with condoning the accepted. It probably does come off as superior but gays must accept that they'll likely never be viewed with the same dignity and respect as straights.

I agree with your black friends, btw.

Subs ute gay with about woman, person of color etc etc. Gee, I wonder why your GF would have a problem with that?

[MannyIsGod]

Where I live, it's a common thing to see gays walk around holding hands, holding each other, the like. It depends on the location of course (Movie Theaters, Carnivals, Malls, etc). It's an arbitrary thing when it comes to the comfort/discomfort that's associated with seeing such display. You're not discomforted by it, I am. I am not only discomforted, I'm disgusted tbh.

Yeah you're not phobic AT ALL. You don't hate gays AT ALL.


What I get is how people sit there and say I'm not phobic in an effort to distance themselves form their ty views while trying to defend said views. I would respect you more - not much TBH - but more - if you would just own it. You obviously realize your views are ty because you're trying to distance yourself form them.

[TE]

Yeah you're not phobic AT ALL. You don't hate gays AT ALL.


What I get is how people sit there and say I'm not phobic in an effort to distance themselves form their ty views while trying to defend said views. I would respect you more - not much TBH - but more - if you would just own it. You obviously realize your views are ty because you're trying to distance yourself form them.

Own what? My opinion on sexuals?

I got to think about it again, maybe I am phobic, but not overly. There are cases where some people that have more advanced phobia would go on a witch hunt...certainly I'm not on that level, if at all.

My views on phobia are ty?

That's a matter of opinion, and you're en led to it, tbh.

IMO, the phobia topic views are mutually exclusive and have absolutely no overlap with each other. It's an all or none type of thing. I think people who claim to be neutral acknowledge the existence of sexuals and their subsequent activity but in no way accept them. You would probably express the same format, but with the neutral person accepting a sexual tendency but not condoning it.

In other discussions, accept does not = condone.

In this discussion, the opposite holds true. Maybe it's an inferiority complex thing, but I just can't accept something to this magnitude without having to condone it.

[Trill Clinton]

sorry, I don't concern myself with how tolerable women are to sexuals.

[mrsmaalox]

Own what? My opinion on sexuals?

Yes. You started a thread under the guise of how women feel about sexuals, when you were obviously most interested in expressing your own feelings about it.

[cantthinkofanything]

sorry, I don't concern myself with how tolerable women are to sexuals.

Trill...humor me if you will. A simple experiment.

You're making love to your hoe. She says..."hey, can my friend watch us having sex...it'll be hot." You're like..."for shizzy...wheh they at". She says, "in the closet...they like it that way best...". You're a little dismayed that they won't be joining immediately but it's still cool. In the middle of passionate lovemaking to your , you hear a guttural grunting coming from the closet. You go to the closet and open the door. Inside is a naked man wearing lipstick and panty hose covered in his own ejaculate. Do you care now if the dude is gay or not?

[Trill Clinton]

Trill...humor me if you will. A simple experiment.

You're making love to your hoe. She says..."hey, can my friend watch us having sex...it'll be hot." You're like..."for shizzy...wheh they at". She says, "in the closet...they like it that way best...". You're a little dismayed that they won't be joining immediately but it's still cool. In the middle of passionate lovemaking to your , you hear a guttural grunting coming from the closet. You go to the closet and open the door. Inside is a naked man wearing lipstick and panty hose covered in his own ejaculate. Do you care now if the dude is gay or not?

you didn't tell me to close my eyes first.

[leemajors]

If they're not holding you in public, why do you give a ?

[cantthinkofanything]

you didn't tell me to close my eyes first.

Close your eyes. You're making love to your hoe. You're also blindfolded. She asks if her roomate can join. You say, " s to the s yah". Your hoe tells you that her roommate is gagged but likes to take it in the butthole. You eagerly give the roommate what they want. As you enter the roomate from behind, you put your hands on their shoulders and feel thick tufts of hair. You rip off the blindfold. An overweight Chinese man with man boobs peeks back over his shoulder and whispers, "keep going big boy.". Now open your eyes. Do you wonder if he's gay?