Who knows man. I'm trying to look at it objectively without rationalizing but I still feel like we are in the best spot.
If money was his motivator then Dwight would have signed a long time ago. From everything he's been indicating, he'll take a few mil less if he gets to be on the team he wants.
He doesn't want to be on the Rockets and I'm not sure why you're ing over the possibility of getting a player that will be a rental and doesn't even want to be there.
You guys are all way too quick to believe that every player is going to leave 30 million dollars on the table just because they threaten to do it.
Why do you think Dwight opted in when he could have opted out and gone to the Nets in FA? It's because he wants the max and the Nets. Now he won't get the Nets, so the only thing left is money. Orlando was going to trade him to Houston at the deadline, he opts in because he knew he would lose alot by walking away, so he held onto hope that he would get traded to the Nets (The team he wanted all along) and the max.
And Deron didn't want to go to the Nets at first either. That changed. As much as Dwight flip flops, you HAVE to call his bluff. And if he walks, well we will be in a position where we're so bad that we don't have to tank. They'll just be bad. And if he re-signs, then it's a win too.
Stop ting on the Rocket fans they have dreams of winning it all next year as well....Houston will get Dwight and then he will walk and finally Morey will be fired and all Rockets fans will be crying foul. They have to go after Dwight to hide the fact that they've ed up so bad by dismantling their team. It really is a big joke for Houston to even be pursuing Dwight.
So is he going to just not play after 4 years?
Dwight, if he doesn't decline when he hits 30 should be able to pull 20+ mil. I think people are forgetting that he isn't losing 30 mil, he simply has to sign again and if you stack contracts side to side + assume he stays at a high level (he likely will) then he will lose less than 10mil all in all.
If you look at the fact that he's more likely to play better on a team he wants to be on and if he signs another max after he hits 30, the difference between the contracts is small and probably will be phased out if you consider that there are far more endorsement opportunities in LA & NY
I believe you are incorrect. The per year salary is lower if he doesn't re sign.So is he going to just not play after 4 years?
Dwight, if he doesn't decline when he hits 30 should be able to pull 20+ mil. I think people are forgetting that he isn't losing 30 mil, he simply has to sign again and if you stack contracts side to side + assume he stays at a high level (he likely will) then he will lose less than 10mil all in all.
If you look at the fact that he's more likely to play better on a team he wants to be on and if he signs another max after he hits 30, the difference between the contracts is small and probably will be phased out if you consider that there are far more endorsement opportunities in LA & NY
You really don't get it. Dwight has not said anything about Houston good or bad. He has only said he wants Brooklyn and will test free agency if he gets traded elsewhere. Jesus, you Laker fans act like everywhere outside of LA is .
Deron != bible thumping dwight, we all know Deron can be bought off being that he's a rather lazy player.
Have you considered the possibility that if he only wanted money his agent would point him to teams that have better endorsement opportunities than Houston? He really isn't losing too much money by just signing a 4 year deal with somebody else that he actually wants to be with.
He's not giving up 30mil unless you think, for some odd reason, he will stop playing when he hits 30. Sure he can get injured, turn into Oden and be able to collect a check for nothing, but it's very unlikely he will become injury prone.
Like I said, Houston is giving it all up for a ing rental.
Right now, he's just saying Nets. If he was traded to LAL, Nets or Mavs then there is probably a 50-50 chance of resigning him. Houston, however, has never been mentioned and they are blindly going after him.
Keep the Laker smack where it's relevant, I'm not even sure he'd sign in LA. It's just much more likely than Houston.
You aren't getting this. The annual salary is higher with bird rights.
It is lower, I was saying that he isn't giving up 30 mil because he won't retire at 30 unless something happens to him. Can you honestly say there isn't a possibility of him signing another max at the end of 4 years?
I mean, yeah, he's going to make more money by getting the 5 year contract and there is just as good of a chance to sign another max probably. Still, he's never going to lose 30 mil from this. If he ends up in a more popular team he'd even make more off endorsements.
Another thing, it's a business and you can't just shy away from a deal because of a threat from a player under contract who loses money if he leaves. That's what the new CBA was designed for.
You seem to be missing the fact that he isn't losing 30 mil
Show me the math he will lose 30 mil and let's assume he will sign a max after 4 years.
If he signs another max contract or not has nothing to do with him giving up money on this contract. WTF aren't you getting about this? Do you understand why bird right were invented?
I'm getting that you're saying he will get paid more per year
I'm saying he isn't losing 30 mil. Show me the math that he will lose 30 mil like you said.
Here I'll help you with that
Season 1-4, he would lose: $3,419,346
In order to lose 26+ mil to cons ute losing 30 mil he'd not have to play the 5th year at all
Perhaps you are right…It is just that these over paid athletes could be looking at this 1st thing in the morning…
Or this...
The Magic need to make Dwight squirm like he did to them. Keep him and find a better trade during the season. There is no deadline for them.
Yes there is. Dwight's value will be shot at the deadline because no one wants a half year rental. If you have him for a year, you have a better chance of convincing him. Also, everyday you don't trade Dwight (Say the Nets are out), the offers decrease.
Just go ahead already with this bull- . Lakers taking a huge risk that Im not 100% sure he is worth due to the bad back and the prima donna at ude. If Rox want him so bad after the Yao injury issues let them take that risk. Bynum's knees are a risk too but if both issues do flare up Bynum has proven he can still be effective (though lazy) whith his shaky knees. Can Dwight be effective with a balky back? I think and hope so ... but Lakers, Rox and Nets are all taking a huge risk. Ours is even higher because we could potentially lose Bynum by keeping him twisting in the wind, like I said repeatedly or get off the pot. I get why we want Dwight but if he doesnt want to be here or the Magic dont want to trade him move on and build a bench. Find a suitable backup for Kobe and re-sign Hill to backup Bynum.
Perhaps you are right…It is just that these over paid athletes could be looking at this 1st thing in the morning…
Or this...
So I guess a full year rental makes it okay
No one will give up as much for half a season as they would a full season. A team could still try to convince him with half a season, but you don't have much time to do so. Plus, Orlando will have zero leverage in asking price by then.So I guess a full year rental makes it okay
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