First pics of The Dark Knight Rises set (2 day shoot in India with Bale and Pence)

[lefty]

But you loved Inception, yes?

Only the same idiots who loved "Inception" could be enamored with "The Dark Knight".

I loved TDK and I hate Inception

Inception was a total POS

[monosylab1k]

Did you watch the last season?

Joan's decision to herself out for a partner spot paralleled Peggy's decision to leave the firm to be creative director for a rival advertiser, despite Don's offers for more pay etc.

Joan could be bought. Peggy could not.

Likewise, Joan thought for years what she really wanted was a rich husband to spend money and let her retire from having to work. This made her dress promiscuous to draw the attention of rich suitors. But after having a kid she realizes how much she actually enjoys working and wants a seat at the big boy table rather just being someones wife.

Again, writing on that show is fantastic.

I'm not talking about how she dresses. I'm talking about shots in the show specifically showing off her ass and ties.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

1) never seen mad men, but to scoff it for having miserable characters is lame, all "good"shows in the last 10 years have specialized in miserable anti heroes


2) just watched Begins and TDK in succession to prepare for the big premiere
The one liners in Begins are so beyond lame, it was obvious Nolan got bad feedback on then and toned it down for TDK. Hopefully he realized bale's voice got unnecessarily gruffy at a logistic rate during TDK. Maybe I'm tired cuz I been up for 37 hours straight, but I only counted 2 indescribable lines from Batman, and while they made me laugh, I'm confident Nolan will have him tone it down for TDKR.

It's just such a shame Ledger had to take that Olsen girl's sleeping pills. His performance will never get it's proper due from a film nut like me, because there are simply far too many dwads out there that high fived people in the theater after watching this movie, sheerly over ledger death hype. Makes me always slightly look on the movie with disgust.

Looking forward to TDKR, though, tickets bought and ready.

[redzero]

Not giving something the props it deserves because of the hype is every bit as y as giving into the hype.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Not giving something the props it deserves because of the hype is every bit as y as giving into the hype.

Perhaps. But being self aware negates at least part of the factor. I mean come on I just admitted I watched both movies back to back.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Not giving something the props it deserves because of the hype is every bit as y as giving into the hype.

Plus I actually like ledgers joker even more now after watching the movie again and placing his role in the Gotham context set up in the first movie

[CubanSucks]

I'll never like Ledger's Joker because too many other people did

CBF: self aware

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Yes, I am smarter than you for taking ledgers performance with a grain a salt, rather than run with tha herd.
You had me right, but should added a "pwnt" at the end

[da_suns_fan]

It's alright, sure. You're also in the minority on that one too, and not just the minority in the "idiot" crowd either. I won't go into a long diatribe that I could copy and past from another site about how you're wrong though



glorified soap opera superb

I dont need to copy and paste from any other site. I saw "inception". It was incredibly overrated.

Special effects were great, but there were too many plot holes and that gimmicky ending was just embarrassing.

"Did the Top stop spinning?!!! Was he still in a dream?!!!'

Worst ending since Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes".

[da_suns_fan]

More on why "The Dark Knight" sucked:

Nolan's Batman (and I use the term loosely) was incredibly lame. He's turned the character into a dumb Tony Stark. And by that I mean theyre both characters with suits that help them fight crime, only Tony Stark invents his own while Batman gets his from Morgan Freeman. Thats pretty much the extent of the character. Theres nothing dark or mysterious about Batman. He just had really rich parents and hes got a raspy voice.

What SHOULD the character be like? Remember that Batman keeps kryptonite in the Bat-Cave. Why? Because he trusts no one and he's got a backup plan in case "mr goody two-shoes" superman has a melt-down. Hes a total cynic. Theres no way the character of Batman would be enamored with Harvey Dent the way "Batman" was in TDK.

Not to mention the bat suit looked ing stupid.

[redzero]

How does Nolan's Batman relying on the help of others make him less mysterious? How does comic Batman knowing how to do everything make him more mysterious? The point of Nolan's series is to make the character more (if not completely) grounded in reality.

You're whining because this Batman isn't a super detective, genius inventor, master martial artist, etc. Just because Tony Stark has near-superhuman intelligence does not make him a more compelling character. Just because Batman relies on/trusts others (like he does in the comics anyway) does not make him less compelling. There are plenty of interpretations of the character. I don't understand why people want Batman to be only be one way in all types of media.

[da_suns_fan]

How does Nolan's Batman relying on the help of others make him less mysterious? How does comic Batman knowing how to do everything make him more mysterious? The point of Nolan's series is to make the character more (if not completely) grounded in reality.

You're whining because this Batman isn't a super detective, genius inventor, master martial artist, etc. Just because Tony Stark has near-superhuman intelligence does not make him a more compelling character. Just because Batman relies on/trusts others (like he does in the comics anyway) does not make him less compelling. There are plenty of interpretations of the character. I don't understand why people want Batman to be only be one way in all types of media.

"Red letter media" Quiz: Without telling me what his job is or what he looks like, describe to me the character of Batman in "The Dark Knight".

Now do the same for Tony Stark in "Iron Man".

See the difference?

[da_suns_fan]

Likewise, the "based in reality" goes out the door when Batman:

1) Drives a car thats way too big to be practical for getting around town. Not to mention he'd be incredibly easy to track down...just follow the GIANT black car.

2) Has no weapons but is able to take out dozens of bad dudes with just his fists.

3) His cape never gets caught in the wheels of his stupid bat cycle. In fact, his cape never gets caught on anything. If its based in reality, why the ing cape?

4) Getting yanked into the air by a moving C-130 would ing kill you.

5) Fire burns dont expose the inner working of your face. Having no skin would lead to so many infections you'd die pretty damn fast.

6) If you were setting up a ruse to catch the Joker, why not lead the Joker to a place with 200 ing cop cars and surround him?

7) Real cops would put the Joker in an isolated cell.

Thats off the top of my head.

[redzero]

Yeah, referencing Star Wars reviews instead of addressing my post is really a compelling argument.

And I am not trying to say Batman is a more compelling character than Iron Man. I am trying to say that making a character great at everything does not make them more compelling by itself.

[da_suns_fan]

Yeah, referencing Star Wars reviews instead of addressing my post is really a compelling argument.

And I am not trying to say Batman is a more compelling character than Iron Man. I am trying to say that making a character great at everything does not make them more compelling by itself.

Im not referencing star wars reviews, im using that site's tactic for exposing when characters are especially bland or "weak".

So without telling me what he looks like or what his occupation is, describe to me Nolan's "Batman".

Its quite easy to do the same thing with "Tony Stark" because he has actual character traits besides "rich dude with a raspy voice".

Batman is the coolest super-hero and Nolan/Bale reduce him to being ing boring.

[redzero]

this guy was so ready to address the reality issue that he completely ignored what I actually posted.

The point of Nolan's series is to make the character more (if not completely) groundedin reality.

[redzero]

List comic Bruce Wayne's character traits without explaining what he does.

[da_suns_fan]

List comic Bruce Wayne's character traits without explains what he does.

Thats easy.

Form Wikipedia:

Bruce Wayne is often seen as an irresponsible, superficial playboy who lives off his family's personal fortune (amassed when his family invested in Gotham real estate before the city was a bustling metropolis)[108] and the profits of Wayne Enterprises, a major private technology firm that he inherits. However, Wayne is also known for his contributions to charity, notably through his Wayne Foundation, a charity devoted to helping the victims of crime and preventing people from becoming criminals.[109] Bruce creates the playboy public persona to aid in throwing off su ion of his secret iden y, often acting dim-witted and self-absorbed to further the act.[110] Among the more noted measures he uses to maintain the facade is pretending he is a heavy drinker by claiming his glasses of ginger ale are strong beverages; Bruce is actually a strict teetotaler to maintain his physical fitness and mental acuity.

[redzero]

Bruce Wayne does most of that in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

Tell me about his personality. I already saw those Star Wars reviews, so I know what you are talking about.

[da_suns_fan]

Bruce Wayne does most of that in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

Tell me about his personality. I already saw those Star Wars reviews, so I know what you are talking about.

I didnt ask you to describe for me the character of bruce wayne, I said describe to me the character of BATMAN in Nolan's "The Dark Knight".

[redzero]

Whatever. Describe comic Batman without stating what he does. I need a point of reference first.

[da_suns_fan]

Whatever. Describe comic Batman without stating what he does. I need a point of reference first.

No..i asked you first. I can easily describe the character of Batman without telling you his occupation or what he looks like.

But I cant when I think about Nolan/Bale's "Batman".

Hes got a raspy voice and he fights crime...oh crap, thats his occupation (crime fighter).

[redzero]

If it is so easy, then do it. If one has a problem with the characterization of Nolan's Batman, would it not make sense to compare him with the comic version to show how Nolan messed up?

[Ginobilly]

Likewise, the "based in reality" goes out the door when Batman:

1) Drives a car thats way too big to be practical for getting around town. Not to mention he'd be incredibly easy to track down...just follow the GIANT black car.

2) Has no weapons but is able to take out dozens of bad dudes with just his fists.

3) His cape never gets caught in the wheels of his stupid bat cycle. In fact, his cape never gets caught on anything. If its based in reality, why the ing cape?

4) Getting yanked into the air by a moving C-130 would ing kill you.

5) Fire burns dont expose the inner working of your face. Having no skin would lead to so many infections you'd die pretty damn fast.

6) If you were setting up a ruse to catch the Joker, why not lead the Joker to a place with 200 ing cop cars and surround him?

7) Real cops would put the Joker in an isolated cell.

Thats off the top of my head.

relax! It's a sci-fi/fantasy/fiction/superhero movie based on a comic book. You could get away without explaining the physics of it. The expectations some people have for a simple concept are just incredible.

[Ginobilly]

If it is so easy, then do it. If one has a problem with the characterization of Nolan's Batman, would it not make sense to compare him with the comic version to show how Nolan messed up?

and that's where all the people are wrong! There is no right or wrong vision of what is Batman. This is Nolan's vision.(the best imo after Batman the animated series) The directors before him had their different versions. Tim burtons was good, but Joel's movies are cringe worthy(George clonney as a 50 year old batman?Chris ODonnell as Robin)

I got a simple concept for all the mass hater critics. If you hate it that much, then don't go watch it; simple as that! You'll don't have to be like fat-comic book guy from the Simpsons!