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Excellent retort, totally takes you off the hook.
my exact thoughts, this is one movie that i seriously thought was disturbing. knowing that someone could try to replicate the body armor then go on a similar type spree was scary to think about.I would not be surprised at all if that asshole shooter guy watched this movie especially considering what type of gear he was wearing during the shooting.
The guy in that movie Rampage kills at least 100 people on screen. It's a good movie but creepy and disturbing.
Excellent retort, totally takes you off the hook.
Ok. Good points.
Same questions for you.
Where is the line drawn?
What is off limits?
Is everything fair game?
And I am not blaming the director for the killings. I am saying that it might have been irresponsible to make this movie- because of Colombine, V.Tech and others...
The guy in Rampage planned the whole thing perfectly in my opinion. The guy in Rampage and the shooter at this movie theater are kinda like the Joker. They have no fear and just want to see the world burn.
It's art. People take from it what they want to. Nobody shot anyone in Catcher in the Rye, but a lot of idiots shot people after reading it.
Don't draw the line. It won't do any good.
Another person that found this "Rampage" film disturbing.
Hate all you want. No problem.
But do yourself a favor and watch this movie and see if you don't begin to feel a little uneasy. I think a line was crossed and it appears that a few here who did see it are starting to make their comments known.
Just watch it.
I understand. It is a tragedy that we are even discussing it.
But it is starting to happen a lot.
Where does art end and incitement and/or irresponsibility begin?
Where is this line?
i had saw it on the netflix thread and thought id give it a shot, told a couple co workers about it and they had th same feelings.. im not one to be uneasy about music, video games or other movies but this was a rare exception. a copycat nutcase was bound to happen
This doesn't mean you are blaming the director- I am assuming?
It is just a movie that might have crossed a line.
Amirite?
There is a HUUUUGE difference between being uncomfortable with the content of a movie and claiming that violent movies "play a role" in tragedies like this....
Almost every generation is under the assumption that things are getting worse. They complain about more sex, violence, and chaos from the newer generations. Yet, today we have a higher value of life than during any period of human history that has come prior. If you think that things have gotten worse because mass media brings you the pictures of events like yesterday, then you're doing some revisionist history.
Mass murders are nothing new.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
And thats just the 20th century onward.
Was it video games and violent movies in the early 1900s?
im not really sure who i would blame tbh, it has just been a movie that has stuck in my head long after watching it.
I said from the start that a lot of things play a part. IMO it is simplistic to think that it is a simple black and white issue with only one cause.
A lot of things go into an incident like this taking place.
Yes- the killer is at fault. No argument.
I am looking at underneath the surface and simply stating that there are a lot of things in society at large that play a role in some way. To not see this is dangerous-IMO again.
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-04-03/u...urder?_s=PM:USNot according to professor James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University in Boston who has been studying mass murder for the past three decades.
Police search for gun used in Oakland college shooting
Despite the huge media coverage devoted to them, crime statistics show that there is no upward trend in mass killings -- defined as having four victims or more, not counting terrorism -- since the 1970s, he said.
Campus shootings, such as the Virginia Tech massacre in 2007, or the cluster of school shootings of the 1990s, including Columbine, often attract more attention than multiple killings in other settings.
Well I agree with you and don't think this is a new thing.
Violent games I believe are a negative- but they are here to stay.
The movie "Rampage" should be seen before this tragedy fades away- because there are a lot of similarities to last night and because I think a line was crossed and that maybe there was irresponsibility in releasing something like this in present day America.
Catcher was published over 60 years ago.
There isn't a line.Where does art end and incitement and/or irresponsibility begin?
Where is this line?
So it's pretty much agreed that the shooter probably watched the movie Rampage or is it just a very strange coincidence that he dressed very similar to the shooter in that movie?
I believe the Va. Tech shooter watched this movie before he ruined/destroyed people's lives. I've seen some of it. It's very violent.
I think the movie was funded by German and Canadian money. The director Uwe Boll is German. This is not an American movie. It was filmed in Canada but the story takes place in America.
Isn't there?
Can a filmmaker make a movie about killing and/or raping children and romanticize the killer/child rapist?
Can a political movie be made where moviegoers are encouraged to set fire to the theatre?
Is everything fair game?
What similarities do Oldboy and the V-Tech shootings share?So it's pretty much agreed that the shooter probably watched the movie Rampage or is it just a very strange coincidence that he dressed very similar to the shooter in that movie?
I believe the Va. Tech shooter watched this movie before he ruined/destroyed people's lives. I've seen some of it. It's very violent.
Uwe Boll is the biggest hack working, just zero talent and taste. I haven't seen Rampage but I've seen some of his other .
I don't believe in censorship but I wish "artists" would man up and sometimes admit that they spread their own negativity into the world.
Kinda worse if you ask me.
Rampage is probably Boll's best movie and that's saying a lot considering he pretty much makes piece of like Alone in the Dark and BloodRayne.
And what's up with the media showing that goofy smile picture of the shooter?
yup. And the creepy thing is that the story looks like it takes place in a small Colorado town. I don't think they ever mention the name of the fictional town, but I wouldn't be surprised if Boll used that town to parallel similarities between Columbine and Rampage.
was that goofy pic taken right after he was arrested or from somewhere else, because someone should have bashed his face in if he was grinning like that afterwards, even if the cop would have got in trouble.
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