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Ergo, it doesn't have to be CO2 and it certainly doesn't have to be CO2 emitted by man.
That's what you can't prove but, only theorize.
How would one go about trying to see if CO2 and temperature increase are related (aside from silly radiative physics) since the planet has warmed or cooled before? Oh I don't know, see what the temperature has done since humans started emitting CO2 into the atmosphere? What about other factors (WC astrology not withstanding)? Oh I don't know, study them and measure them as well and use - GASP - math to quantify the warming?
Nah, the planet has been cold and warm ergo it can't be CO2.
Ergo, it doesn't have to be CO2 and it certainly doesn't have to be CO2 emitted by man.
That's what you can't prove but, only theorize.
The opening post contained a link and was led, "What 40 years has done to change Earth."
Doesn't seem like a landsat thread to me. Seems to me it was about how the Earth has changed in 40 years.
I wasn't the one that changed it to a climate thread, either.
You seemed to believe it was originally about remote sensing.
I've never heard that fire suppression has led to more forest in the USA. I've only read the opposite, that fire suppresion has hurt our forests. That's why we are doing alot of precribed burns and forest thinnig now. Natural fires are essential to healthy forests because they clear out underbrush allowing new trees to grow as well as reducing the likelihood of the massive fires that we see every summer. Some trees, like the giant sequoia, will not germinate unless there is a fire.
Evil dubya passed the Healthy Forest Initiative which had the goal of undoing the negative effects of our fire suppression policy and increasing our forests. Environmentally friendly Obama has furthered the effort by doing...well nothing.
Screw the Earth. What's sad is what 40 years has done to me.
The forces themselves can be determined, but the full effect of end result isn't well understood. Geothermal heat comes from these tidal forces and the moon has the greatest effect. It still doesn't mean the more subtle changes of other planetary alignments doesn't have effect. At times, the forces will add together, and other times some will weaken others. The net result becomes complex, and ever changing.
F= (m1m2 / R^2) G
(this is over the whole earth)
Mass is obviously more important than distance as the distance gets squared so we'll use the example of Jupiter outside of the sun it has the highest mass.
Gravitational Constant = 6.674 * 10^-11
Mass Jupiter = 1.9 * 10 ^27 (rounded up)
Mass of Earth = 5.97 * 10^24
Shortest distance between the two 628,743,036 km
Now, anyone who's not ing moron can see that when you square that distance, you're going to get a huge number which means your answer is going to be etremely small. Furthermore, the value of G itself is very small which is further going to reduce the force. The amount of energy in the atmosphere from the Sun is so much more than the force applied by other planets (and they will all be much smaller than Jupiter since they all have much smaller masses) that anyone with any type of science background would understand how stupid the WC is saying is.
Of course, the common sense approach to this is that you have never felt the affect of Jupiter on you, but walk outside on a Sunny winter day and tell me if you can't feel the effect of sunlight on your skin.
Tell us again how you understand, WC?
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Of course you can prove it. Its not magic. You simply do an accounting of the incoming and outgoing radiation based on radiative physics and observations.
If its not CO2, then something else has to be heating up the earth. We know its not the Sun. The oceans are warming themselves, so basic thermodynamics rules them out. So where is the heat coming from? We now the properties of CO2 that cause it to become a greenhouse gas, CO2 has been rising since the industrial revolution, and we have direct observations of CO2 in the atmosphere increasing the amount of downward infrared and reducing the amount of outgoing radiation.
Scientists didn't pull this out of a hat.
LANDSAT imagery is remote sensing, moron.
So Manny...
Are you a denier of geothermal energy?
Geothermal energy has nothing to do with the gravity of other planets. Maybe the energy from the crystal that Miss Cleo sold you.
Look...
I never said that they would. They do play a minor role. I know the numbers are small, but sometimes, it just takes that straw that break the camels back for a change.
Since you wish to completely laugh at the notion, maybe you know the cause of the cycle. If you don't, you're pretty damn stupid to dismiss an idea, even though it's improbable.
Put up or shut up.
There is no "cycle". Melting of the glaciers happens on AVERAGE every 150 years but its not a cycle. It happens because the temperatures rise and then drop again.
The planets gravity plays no role on the climate of Greenland. A butterfly farting would play a bigger role.
Gonna be a bad ing day on Greenland, man. Mars is retrograding and I just met a Taurus.
So you have no proper answer, like always.
So be it.
No, I don't have a proper answer for you thinking that the planetary alignments are going to melt the surface of the Greenland ice sheet. Can you tell me my horoscope though?
Of course not. Since you are just going to be a clown, and not serious, I see no reason to continue. You are a denier of proper science, and it appears you deny that tidal forces play a role in geothermal energy.
No, I don't have a proper answer for you thinking that the planetary alignments are going to melt the surface of the Greenland ice sheet. Can you tell me my horoscope though?
I'll let one of the geophysicists that roams the board chime in on this.
i hear ya, man. the moon turns up in the weirdest places!
sometimes, i'll look up and there's only half of it!
what happened to the rest?
It appears that you cannot support the asinine position that planetary alignment (lol ing lol) plays any role in geothermal energy.
ing magnets! How do they work?!!!1111
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