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This, 11 HOFers on the same team has never been done before, nor most likely ever will be. He's just trolling, no one is that stupid.
This, 11 HOFers on the same team has never been done before, nor most likely ever will be. He's just trolling, no one is that stupid.
Yawn. Man, I went to this board thinking I'll get a decent amount of argument. Instead I have people using endorsements as argument why the 92 Dream Team would beat the 2012 roster
***Btw, with respect to EL NoNo, I think he's the only one so far with good basketball logic in this thread, proceeding***
And yes, that 92 Dream Team as a team is overrated. Bird was old and had a bad back, Mullin was just a token guy, Stockton too (Isiah wouldve been a better selection tbh) Laettner? Don't start with me, Drexler was meh and Magic was on his last legs. 2012 team with Blake Griffin would beat those old timers for sure. Whose going to take on Lebron? Pippen? CROFL.
I just owned some y'all and it was irrefutable. So naturally you'll resort to name calling.
Too easy tbh. I want to talk to real basketball mind in this thread.
lol trying to use the chazley shtick "say re ed , then claim victory"
You're obviously bothered by it brah. Don't take it personal. I have no argument with you. Here, have a Coors light
hardly bothered, scrah,
this is ST afterall, but it was somewhat obvious since you were grasping at straws from the start, regardless i'll be fair, and give it the 4.5/10 it deserves, IMO TBH
The Dream Team would win in convincing fashion. You have to add the international rules, too. There is no defensive 3 seconds rule. You could camp Robinson and Ewing in the paint and have them waiting when Lebron/Kobe/Westbrook/Iggy or anyone else drives to the cup. It would make them jumpshooters. In international compe ion you don't have those "bull into the lane, flail your arms and cry until you get a foul" superstar calls. The 3 point line is different, too. Makes it easier for the 92 team as well.
And prime Jordan would destroy 2012 Kobe. With a prime Kobe it would be closer, but now? No way. It would be embarrassing. LeBron would give Pippen a hard time, but Pippen was maybe the best perimeter defender in the league (alongside MJ; even Barkley could help, if he looked to post) and would not let Lebron get by easy. On the flip side, it would be much harder for Chandler/Davis to stop Robinson/Ewing/Barkley/Malone in the post. They would get murdered.
Then you have HoF defenders at every position. Is there a better defensive 2 guard all time then MJ? A better 3 then Pippen? You can add the all time steals leader in Stockton and a ton of shotblockers at C.
Basically, I just dont see how the 2012 would score enough. There will be too much iso-ball and they wouldnt score that much in transition the way the 92 team protected the ball. IMO lack of size kills the 12' team, too.
And even if you have LeBron playing PF (and Durant at SF), him going against Barkley or Malone, he would have problems, especially against Malone who has a few inches on him and was strong as an ox as a player. Bron wouldn't even get half the calls he gets now. Bron would score, sure, but it won't be that easy as some might think.
You guys are bringing this "best of the best" and "all time records" and stuff to prove a point. Of course today's players doesn't stack up...yet.
Once all said and done, this will be closer than most people think. Lebron is on the verge of destroying some records by Jordan etc. His PER is already among the history books and easily rivals Jordan. Kevin Durant and Kobe may indeed end up in the Top 3 most scored points in league history.
CP3 already had a historical season (2008) not even Magic Johnson himself can match. Blake Griffin will have a better career than Malone or Barkley. He already has a ROY and a Slam Dunk trophy, something the Mailman and Chuck never had.
And who said Coach K would put Kobe on prime Jordan? hypotehtically, it would be Iguodala and Lebron's task to shut Jordan down and I know they could because Joe Dumars has stopped Jordan numerous times.
And Lebron would own the Mailman. Please gtfo with that trash.
Sorry, I was fapping to ARG beating Lituania and missed this post...
IMO, Lebron has been beasting and has the potential to be the GOAT, but right now it's just potential...
His last NBA 'ship is 100% legit, nobody is taking that away from him, but to be great he has to keep it up. Time will tell what happens...
Sorry, I was fapping to ARG beating Lituania and missed this post...
A fully healthy 2012 team (add Howard, Wade, Rose, Bosh, subtract Chandler, Harden, Iguodala, Davis) would give the Dream Team more problems than many either think or care to admit.
I actually think the 2012 team would be the one with the more pronounced mismatches at the forward spots. Contrary to popular belief, I don't think the problem for the 2012 would be defending the post as much as it would be defensive rebounding. I'm not saying Barkley and Malone wouldn't give James and Anthony trouble in the post (Durant would have to be kept away from both), but would they give them any more trouble in the post than James, Anthony and Durant would give them off the dribble? James, in particular. Neither of them could defend him, but he could defend them. The Dream Team would have to cross match and play small to match up with those three, otherwise they'd get destroyed off the dribble or concede open jumpers, if they chose to play them soft.
In the middle, there's no question it would be advantage Dream Team, but even then, I don't think it would be to the extent many think. Between Howard and Robinson, there's no mismatch either way. That leaves Ewing (and/or Malone, if you buy with the notion that they'd have to play small) and Bosh, which is a mismatch both ways.
Robinson has size & skill over Howard as well as a reliable jump shot & athleticism to match Howard, I honestly can't see Howard doing too well in that match up.
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Make me wonder how old some of you are. 92 Bird had a bad back true but if you think he wouldn't find his abilities for 1 game..you're crazy. With 1 leg and a bad back during the hand check days,he went for 49 points against Drexler's Blazer team. International game favors the team with the perimeter shooters and who can control the paint, an advantage that gets extra credence due to the allowance of goal tending. Stockton, for as awesome as he was as a PG with passing skills and a fg% around 50, 5 All-NBA D team placements means he could d as well. Any CP3 or Westbrook perceived advantage could be nulified by intellect and a truly imposing front line. This ain't the whine and get call game, This would be a there will be blood game with a chance for a foul call. 92 wouldn't need the help, 2012 would look for it. For all of LBJ's skill, he still is 1-3 in le attempts and people questioned everything. Just because he finally as ONE, what makes him more transcendant than other players who were unquestioned leaders for their teams, especially the guys with multiple rings? Okay so he followed Bean and said it again....again, the purists already know the answer. Its not a 40 point blowout but a double-digit one easily.
There are plenty of advantages but if you're going to say better athlete what do you say to 6-4 1/2 inch and best rebounder in the L or 7-1 and runs like a deer or 6-9 and can drop a pass into the post or just take you to it and then score. Today's NBA ain't better, its just different plus its way more hyped.
Good point. The league was just tougher back then;played at a more compe ive level imo.There are plenty of advantages but if you're going to say better athlete what do you say to 6-4 1/2 inch and best rebounder in the L or 7-1 and runs like a deer or 6-9 and can drop a pass into the post or just take you to it and then score. Today's NBA ain't better, its just different plus its way more hyped.
The league was only tougher because hard fouls were tolerated and accepted as part of the game. I've seen the 80's 90's and 00's and defenses are better now with better athletes.
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Additionally, as Stalin already stated, you have LeBron's deep down in your throatThere is no sense in arguing with a homer
Tyson Chandler as the only centre vs The Hoya Destroyer Patrick Ewing and The Admiral David Robinson. Good luck Tyson lol. That's just about the game right there.
Robinson/Ewing >> Chandler
Malone/Barkley >> Love/Davis
Bird/Pippen = LeBron/Durant/Anthony
Jordan/Drexler/Mullin >> Kobe/Iguodala/Harden
Magic/Stockton >> Paul and Williams
It's not close at all.
TOSB Bird=Lebron? You are a ing idiot. And Durant at 4 is a better fit for the Olympics than Malone. Being able to hit the 3 is huge for chemistry purposes.
Exactly, you're only as good as your compe ion, and those dream team players, just faced tougher opposition day in and day out. Today's nba player are mentally soft and get pampered by the league. Watching them cry everytime they get in the lane hoping for a call is hilarious, tbh.
The players these days are stronger and more athletic. WIth these abilities, it is much harder to score. Thus, getting to the free throw line is of more importance than ever.
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