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    Well, good for him. No one asked him that I'm aware, did they?
    Customary of both parties to do so for years.

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    Where did I send that message? Link? Quote? Wouldn't want to think you're talking out of your ass again...
    That's the implied message.

    For what other reason does one need to see his return, except to look for more trash?

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    No sillier than accusing someone of a crime and then demanding they prove their innocence.
    What are you talking about?

    And his college transcripts and his medical records and...
    So, where are they?
    You can find his birth certificate online... haven't heard about the "college transcript movement" or the "medical records movement" yet...

    And, he's said no. So, Harry Reid makes up a story about receiving an anonymous call that Romney hasn't even filed them in 10 years?
    Well, that's on Reid. If that works you up, you should turn off your TV until November. There's going to be enough false negative bull thrown around from both sides from here until the election.

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    Customary of both parties to do so for years.
    Not until very recently. There is no reason for Romney to do any more than is required under the election laws.

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    What are you talking about?
    Harry Reid.

    You can find his birth certificate online... haven't heard about the "college transcript movement" or the "medical records movement" yet...
    It came and went in the '08 election. I know you didn't hear about it, the media ignored it.

    Well, that's on Reid. If that works you up, you should turn off your TV until November. There's going to be enough false negative bull thrown around from both sides from here until the election.
    It's on Reid and anyone else that buys into the nonsense Reid is fomenting -- including those in this forum. No one is forcing you to stay in the conversation.

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    Only one speaks to eligibility.
    And the other speaks about honesty.

    I agree with scott... the cloud of doubt isn't going away. I personally couldn't care less about Romney's tax returns.

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    That's the implied message.

    For what other reason does one need to see his return, except to look for more trash?
    So I never sent that message. Okay.

    I'm not asking for anything from Romney. But we wouldn't be talking about this at all if this thing didn't stuck to him.

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    And the other speaks about honesty.
    And, there's no reason to believe Romney is being dishonest about his tax returns.

    I agree with scott... the cloud of doubt isn't going away. I personally couldn't care less about Romney's tax returns.
    I disagree, this will pass like every other smear Obama's campaign has thrown at Romney because, ultimately, it comes back to how poorly Obama is performing.

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    Did he sue Romney? Link?

    It came and went in the '08 election. I know you didn't hear about it, the media ignored it.
    Well, we aren't in 2008 anymore, and frankly the whole birther crap went way past 2008.

    It's on Reid and anyone else that buys into the nonsense Reid is fomenting -- including those in this forum. No one is forcing you to stay in the conversation.
    I don't buy what Reid is saying (neither is scott for that matter). That doesn't mean that it isn't a subject people inside or outside this forum isn't considering.

    We're just talking here.

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    And, there's no reason to believe Romney is being dishonest about his tax returns.
    I agree, but you only talk for yourself.

    I disagree, this will pass like every other smear Obama's campaign has thrown at Romney because, ultimately, it comes back to how poorly Obama is performing.
    I disagree. But time will tell.

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    Did he sue Romney? Link?
    You obviously haven't been following the news.

    Harry Reid Accuses Mitt Romney Of Not Paying Taxes

    He won't reveal the source of his information and is demanding Romney disprove the allegation.

    Well, we aren't in 2008 anymore, and frankly the whole birther crap went way past 2008.
    Are you interested in why Barack Obama is so intent on keeping his college transcripts secret? Why, as President of the Harvard Law Review, he was the first to have never published a review?

    I don't buy what Reid is saying (neither is scott for that matter). That doesn't mean that it isn't a subject people inside or outside this forum isn't considering.

    We're just talking here.
    Okay then.

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    You obviously haven't been following the news.

    Harry Reid Accuses Mitt Romney Of Not Paying Taxes

    He won't reveal the source of his information and is demanding Romney disprove the allegation.
    So Romney can just say Reid is wrong. Where's the demand of proving his innocence? Reid apparently can't even prove there was criminal activity.

    Are you interested in why Barack Obama is so intent on keeping his college transcripts secret? Why, as President of the Harvard Law Review, he was the first to have never published a review?
    Probably as interested as I am in Romney's tax returns. None basically.

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    You obviously haven't been following the news.

    Harry Reid Accuses Mitt Romney Of Not Paying Taxes

    He won't reveal the source of his information and is demanding Romney disprove the allegation.
    Typical authoritarian Demonrat.

    Guilty until proven innocent.

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    The Tax Trap Springs Shut on Romney

    Republican policy elites and fund-raisers fervently believe, for both moral and economic reasons, in the paramount necessity of cutting taxes for the rich. This position is, however, a political trap; the vast majority of Americans want taxes on the rich to be higher, not lower, and the commitment to cutting taxes on the rich further requires larger en lement cuts or higher middle class taxes, both of which are more unpopular still.

    At the outset of his campaign, Romney tried to avoid committing himself, but by February, with GOP rivals outflanking him and facing steady pressure from Republican elites, he declared himself in favor of a 20 percent tax cut, a move greeted with joy from anti-tax activists. But he still attempted to hide the ball. Romney promised that his rate cut would be matched by closing tax deductions and some unspecified allowance for economic growth, and thus would not decrease the level (or the share) of taxes paid by the rich. Romney’s boast that his plan could not be scored revealed the essential calculation. But the campaign miscalculated. Yesterday’s study by the Brookings Ins ution and the Tax Policy Center showed that, even allowing for the faster growth predicted by Romney’s own economist, there aren’t enough tax deductions to account for the cost of the lower rates for the rich — raising taxes for the middle class would be the only way to make Romney’s promises add up. Romney didn’t hide the ball well enough.

    Obama has already unleashed an ad making the simple and devastating point that Romney is proposing to cut taxes of people like himself and raise them on the vast majority of the public:



    Romney’s play here is to turn the study’s findings into a matter of partisan dispute. It has mustered two arguments. The first is that the Brookings study cannot be trusted because its authors are biased. (Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom called the study a “joke.”) The Weekly Standard pushes this line, noting that one of its authors visited the White House twelve times. Unfortunately, Romney’s campaign itself once cited the Tax Policy Center (accurately) as “objective,” and its findings are basically simple math.

    Romney’s second argument is more convoluted. The study examined the effects of Romney’s income tax proposals. He has also promised to reform the corporate tax code. Romney policy advisor Lanhee Chen argued yesterday that Romney corporate tax reforms could increase economic growth even more. So, even though the study allowed for optimistic growth assumptions of the income tax cuts, it didn’t also allow for optimistic assumptions of the corporate tax cuts.

    Of course, Romney doesn’t really have a corporate tax reform plan. He says basically the same thing everybody says. The corporate tax code is filled with deductions and loopholes. The statutory rate (35 percent) is unusually high by international standards, but the effective rate is unusually low. We could lower the rate to, say, 28 percent, close a bunch of deductions and loopholes, and have a fairer tax code. That’s what Romney endorses, and it’s also what Obama endorses.


    Romney isn’t offering a policy blueprint for what deductions he would take away, let alone a plausible scenario to pass such a plan even if it did exist. He’s just using the mystical economic pixie dust of the nonexistent corporate tax reform plan in order to hold out the hope of some missing ingredient, some unmeasurable X factor, to keep his proposal in the safe dreamworld where the cruel tyranny of math cannot apply.

    But the math is inescapable. When Romney looks back at the positions he adopted during the Republican primary — the hard line on immigration, the embrace of Paul Ryan — his pander to supply-siders may loom as his largest mistake.


    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08...on-romney.html

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    Top GOP Strategist Pushes Romney To Release More Tax Returns: ‘Two Years Is Not Enough, Obviously’


    Longtime Republican strategist Ed Rollins today joined 20 other Republicans by saying Mitt Romney should “absolutely” release more years of tax returns. Despite increasing pressure from both Democrats and Republicans, and 61 percent of voters who want to see more taxes, Romney has refused to release more than two years.

    This makes 21 prominent Republicans who agree Romney should follow precedent and release more years of tax returns, including George Will, Bill Kristol, Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley, Gov. Rick Perry, and the National Review editorial board.

    Instead of releasing more do ents, which would reveal more information on how much Romney has benefitted from tax loopholes and offshore havens, Romney told reporters this week, “I have paid taxes every year. A lot of taxes.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...ugh-obviously/

    Repugs know their "man" is a DEADbeat. Dead if he withholds, DEAD if DISCLOSEs.

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    lol rick perry

    "my tax return can fit on a notecard"

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    Typical authoritarian Demonrat.

    Guilty until proven innocent.
    Typical career politician...... tax hikes for Willard's cons uents, no taxes paid by Willard himself......

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    The deadbeats are the poor losers who have nothing better to do than dig in other people's trash for dirt.

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    Typical authoritarian Demonrat.

    Guilty until proven innocent.
    Gecko is guilty until he proves himself innocent.

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    The deadbeats are the poor losers who have nothing better to do than dig in other people's trash for dirt.
    lol birther

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    Do y'all honestly think that Romney has cheated on his taxes? Do you honestly believe that the Obama administration wouldn't have audited his ass if that was the case? They HAVE the tax returns. If they thought there was anything there they damn sure would have used it by now.

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    Do y'all honestly think that Romney has cheated on his taxes? Do you honestly believe that the Obama administration wouldn't have audited his ass if that was the case? They HAVE the tax returns. If they thought there was anything there they damn sure would have used it by now.
    It's not that Romney is being accused of cheating. Reid says he's not paid any taxes for the past ten years.

    The White House threw him under this bus this morning.

    WH Distances Itself From Reid; Carney Says He "Speaks For Himself"

    Another "Romney-is-an-evil- " balloon, floated by the Left, crashes and burns along side Seamus, Bain Capital, Outsourcing, Dressage, Lazy Wife, Mormonism, and Evil Capitalist.

    Nice going Democrats.

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    "Romney has cheated on his taxes"

    if he hasn't cheated to IRS, he has cheated to Mormon cult.

    I figure has evaded taxes. THat's why 1%ers and other criminals bank offshore.

    If he's 100% legit, what does he have to hide?

    As the article I posted pointed out with 10 explanantions, he may been one of the 50K Americans with secret bank accounts who were offered amnesty. Even he's now amnestied and "IRS-legal", it would be fatal if he did evade and get amnestied.

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    Do y'all honestly think that Romney has cheated on his taxes? Do you honestly believe that the Obama administration wouldn't have audited his ass if that was the case? They HAVE the tax returns. If they thought there was anything there they damn sure would have used it by now.
    How could anyone in government anonymously leak detailed tax returns?

    I don't think he cheated. I do think there is probably pretty embarrassing information there concerning things like his effective tax rate and the amount of money he made off a company with which he claimed no involvement.

    If Romney ain't scurred, he'll release the do ents. Maybe he's just timing the release if there's nothing bad about them -- but as it is now, he looks like he's hiding something and that's all that the other team needs.

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    How could anyone in government anonymously leak detailed tax returns?

    I don't think he cheated. I do think there is probably pretty embarrassing information there concerning things like his effective tax rate and the amount of money he made off a company with which he claimed no involvement.

    If Romney ain't scurred, he'll release the do ents. Maybe he's just timing the release if there's nothing bad about them -- but as it is now, he looks like he's hiding something and that's all that the other team needs.
    I didn't say they could leak them to the press.

    I said that the Treasury Department HAS Romney's tax returns.

    If there was anything illegal going on you can be damn sure Romney would be in the middle of a nasty audit right now.

    There is nothing illegal about paying as little tax as you can under current tax law.

    In fact, I consider it almost a moral obligation not to overpay my taxes while staying within the law.

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