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    he trashed her. i'm here to defend her honor. very uncool of you to defend him.
    You're logic is one of a silly clown. I was hoping you could let go of the hurtful things you have said to WC about his ex wife. It did the opposite, it fueled your resentment towards him even more. God bless

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    You're logic is one of a silly clown. I was hoping you could let go of the hurtful things you have said to WC about his ex wife. It did the opposite, it fueled your resentment towards him even more. God bless
    he trashed her. i'm here to defend her honor. very uncool of you to defend him.
    i understand your position. you religious guys don't see women as equals.

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    i understand your position. you religious guys don't see women as equals.
    You clearly dont. There is no reasoning with you today. God bless

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    There is no reasoning with you today. God bless
    i got my chivalry on.

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    i understand your position. you religious guys don't see women as equals.
    if you were only black with all that determination... jack would love to own one or two of you...

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    if you were only black with all that determination... jack would love to own one or two of you...
    careful, i have a feeling cowboy's gonna tuck his skirt and run to kori.

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    You clearly dont. There is no reasoning with you today. God bless
    Today? Why do you think I have it on ignore?

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    It's gotta be real bad for CNN to be calling bull on the ad.


    Another Obama fail! I hope that PAC burned through every penny of Bill Maher's $1 million dollar donation making and buying airtime for that de able ad.

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    "I like to fire people", Gecko is job destroyer.

    Fire someone with health insurance, esp an middle aged, sick person, and they're most often screwed out of insurance completely, often condemned to bankruptcy and poverty for year, and perhaps forever for middle aged sick people.

    So this ad is a reminder that ACA Obamacare, just like Geckocare in MA, is a humanitarian attempt to counter the vicious economic Darwinism that makes America the most inhumane of industrial countries.

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    Just another reason to get PAC money off the airwaves.

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    Just another reason to get PAC money off the airwaves.
    Certainly on the Democrat side.

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    That sounds like something a stupid person would say.

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    That sounds like something a stupid person would say.
    At least after the Olympics I will be back to mainly DVR watching until the NFL starts, missing many ty ads from everyone.

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    if you were only black with all that determination... jack would love to own one or two of you...
    Silly clowns. God bless

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    Ooops! Did the Obama Campaign coordinate Soptic ads with a PAC? That would be illegal.

    Team Obama denies knowing story of man in its TV ad, call

    Asked about the Priorities spot on MSNBC Wednesday morning, Robert Gibbs said he doesn’t “know the specifics” while Stephanie Cutter said on CNN: “I don’t know the facts about when Mr. Soptic’s wife got sick or the facts about his health insurance.”

    And Jen Psaki told reporters on Air Force One that “we don't' have any knowledge of the story of the family,” according to Yahoo! News.

    But Cutter hosted an Obama campaign conference call in May in which Soptic told reporters the very story featured in the Priorities spot.

    Both the campaign and the Priorities USA Action said there was no coordination about Soptic’s appearances. In the campaign’s ad, Soptic speaks only about the plant. In the Priorities spot, he tells the personal story he relayed during the Obama campaign conference call.

    “We have no idea when Priorities shot their spot,” an Obama campaign official said. “We’re not allowed to coordinate with them – but we can tell you it wasn’t when we shot ours.”
    I'm convinced.

    So, for those of you playing at home, Soptic talked about his wife's illness, death, and lack of insurance (which turns out to be a lie, by the way), during a conference call hosted by Obama Campaign official Stephanie Cutter. The Campaign airs an ad that, while it doesn't feature the wife's story, features Soptic. Soptic is then featured in a Priorities USA Action "PAC" ad in which he tells the story about Romney murdering his wife...the same story he told on the Obama Campaign-sponsored conference call. And, for the kicker, Stephanie Cutter claims no knowledge of Soptic's wife's cir stances even though she sponsored a call during which the story was told.

    Let's go to the tape:


    Sounds like he's reading form a script, too. I wonder who wrote it.

    And, oh yeah, the lies! The lies!

    GST was shut down after Romney left Bain but, while a major Obama bundler was running the place.

    Mrs. Soptic was employed and had insurance when Mr. Soptic was laid off from the GST.

    Same guy, two different ads. Same story, two different venues. Nah, no coordination there.

    “We have no idea when Priorities shot their spot,” an Obama campaign official said. “We’re not allowed to coordinate with them – but we can tell you it wasn’t when we shot ours.”


    Having Mr. Soptic mention the pension was a nice touch.

    Delphi salaried retirees get do ents for their pension termination case

    Washington— The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp has turned over 62,000 pages of do ents to a group of Delphi Corp. salaried retirees that are suing over the 2009 termination of the pension plan covering more than 20,000 current and future retirees.
    I wonder how many "Soptic" stories could be mined out of 20,000 Delphi screwees?

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    So what's the penalty for this illegal act?

    How many years in federal prison?

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    This ad is sure to be effective in getting the coveted independent vote. Money well spent.

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    This ad is sure to be effective in getting the coveted independent vote. Money well spent.
    That's the PAC to which Bill Maher sent his million. Priceless.

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    You're logic is one of a silly clown. I was hoping you could let go of the hurtful things you have said to WC about his ex wife. It did the opposite, it fueled your resentment towards him even more. God bless
    Logic to jack = oil & water. Lol

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    I saw (and commented on) a clip from this show, in another thread. And, since Sorkin did a pretty good job with The West Wing, it's possible this show will receive some attention and that we'll see more of Sorkin's scripted political wisdom, played out in this forum, from the mouths of actors such as Jeff Daniels and Sam Waterston.

    So, it appears he's already getting fact checked on his liberal nonsense, as well.

    In this clip, John Samples of CATO completely destroys Aaron Sorkin's vision of free speech in general and the Citizens United decision in particular.


    If Sorkin has a problem with Citizens United, he should shut his corporate speech the up.

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    So, if you're keeping score at home...

    1) Mitt Romney left Bain Capital in 1999.

    2) Bain Capital shuttered GST in 2002.

    3) Soptic's wife was still employed and insured through her employer in 2002.

    4) Soptic has been employed since his layoff from GST.

    5) Soptic's wife was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in 2006, after being admitted for pneumonia, and died 22 days later.

    Now, we find out there's a 1.5.

    1.5) Bain Capital offered Soptic a buyout in 2001, before GST was closed.


    This should go down in history as the most dishonest, de able, and slimiest political ad of all time. Shame on Obama. Shame on Soptic. Shame on Priorities USA Action PAC.

    I hope the coordination between Priorities USA Action and Obama For America is proven and Stephanie Cutter goes to prison for it.

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    This should go down in history as the most dishonest, de able, and slimiest political ad of all time.
    I wouldn't go that far. It was poorly executed, no doubt.

    As far as smearing, it's probably up there with Swift Vets and POWs for Truth...

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    I wouldn't go that far. It was poorly executed, no doubt.

    As far as smearing, it's probably up there with Swift Vets and POWs for Truth...
    Except the part where Swift Boat Vets were being honest.

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    Except the part where Swift Boat Vets were being honest.
    lol honest

    There was nothing honest about it. That's why even a Vietnam POW like McCain condemned it.

    Credit where credit is due though, their tactics are a textbook example on how to run a successful political smear campaign.

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    lol honest

    There was nothing honest about it. That's why even a Vietnam POW like McCain condemned it.

    Credit where credit is due though, their tactics are a textbook example on how to run a successful political smear campaign.
    I'm not sure how John McCain is in a position to know whether or not the Swiftboat Veterans were being dishonest.

    In fact, I went to Snopes.com and they found that the statements made by the Swiftboat Veterans cannot be classified as either true or false because they were opinions.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/swift.asp

    So, you're comparing the opinions of decorated war veterans to the demonstrable lies of Soptic, the PAC, and the Obama campaign?

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