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    I don't like it, but I don't call Obamacare "not doing jack".
    I think the point is, Obama hasn't done anything that's POSITIVE.

    You're right, Obamacare was quite a feat. What with the Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase, and a fraudulent election in Minnesota thrown in, to boot; he was able to lie, cheat, and steal that piece of legislation across the finish line.

    Quite an accomplishment.

    a) It steals $716 billion from Medicare, and;
    b) It's gone from the CBO scoring at a $450 billion dollar surplus to a $1.5 trillion drain on the economy, over the next 10 years.
    c) You can't keep your doctor and you can't keep your insurance.

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    She would win the presidency if she decides to run in 2016.
    That depends on being on the ticket, Obama winning, and the economy turning around.

    Obama would endorse the out of her.
    You say that as if it's a positive.

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    Most polls are showing Romney ahead. God bless
    If by most you mean the opposite then its true.

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    Obama is definitely desperate. You can tell by the sleaze campaign he is running.
    How do you figure the guy ahead in pretty much every metric is desperate?

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    Not sure what polls you are looking at, but even Fox News has Obama up 9 points now. That is the reason most believe Romney went with a more risky pick in Paul Ryan. He is the one who in fact is desperate.
    First two I looked at,Ramaussen and gallop have Romney up. I think our clown, clambake migh be right about fox. God bless

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    Looks like dumb Joe doesn't matter. well, snap.

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    First two I looked at,Ramaussen and gallop have Romney up. I think our clown, clambake migh be right about fox. God bless
    LOL so you look at 2 and think thats most? Some outstanding analysis there.

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    LOL so you look at 2 and think thats most? Some outstanding analysis there.
    Brother, math is not your strength. I even mentioned the fox poll in that same post. That's 3 for sures. FYI, I looked at more. God bless

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    The guy who doesn't know what most means is telling me math is not my strength?

    Who's up in most polls again?

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    The guy who doesn't know what most means is telling me math is not my strength?

    Who's up in most polls again?
    Are you counting the D+19 polls?

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    Jeezus Yoni...although I wouldn't call either leading by a significant margin, Obama is still coming out slightly on top in a lot of polls...but as we all know, polls can be skewed by the organization doing the poll.

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    I don't know what you mean by D+19.

    I used a site that is run by GOP people and their national polls aren't even close. The only 2 Romney is winning aren't even out of the MOE. No serious poll monitor thinks Romney is winning this race. Thats why the two sites I follow such as 538 have Obama as a clear favorite to win so far. He's winning the national polls and he's winning when you look at state polls one by one.

    You can ignore the polls if you want, but to try to make them seem favorable to Romney is laughable. I remember you not willing to bet on the race in 2008 that you were so sure the polls were wrong in predicting, Yoni. I doubt you're willing to put anything behind your declarations this time around.

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    Jeezus Yoni...although I wouldn't call either leading by a significant margin, Obama is still coming out slightly on top in a lot of polls...but as we all know, polls can be skewed by the organization doing the poll.
    Yup, which is why Rasmussen always leans right. FWIW, Rasmussen also had Obama behind much of the time in 08. I don't think that turned out right.

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    Well, for now...

    White House says Obama will stick with Biden as running mate

    Of course, David Axelrod went on MSNBC before hand and reaffirmed his confidence in Slow Joe.

    Axelrod Won't Rule Out Biden Being Dropped, Tells Joke Instead

    "Listen, I have a great affection and respect for Joe Biden," Axelrod said, according to a rush transcript. "I think he's been a great vice president. He's taken on a lot of tough assignments for our administration. ... from administering the recovery act -- and he did it very, very well -- through being the point person on the Iraq war and getting our troops home and doing that -- the politics of that over there. he's done a great job for us."
    There's a lot of past tense in that paragraph.

    21 days.

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    I don't know what you mean by D+19.

    I used a site that is run by GOP people and their national polls aren't even close. The only 2 Romney is winning aren't even out of the MOE. No serious poll monitor thinks Romney is winning this race. Thats why the two sites I follow such as 538 have Obama as a clear favorite to win so far. He's winning the national polls and he's winning when you look at state polls one by one.

    You can ignore the polls if you want, but to try to make them seem favorable to Romney is laughable. I remember you not willing to bet on the race in 2008 that you were so sure the polls were wrong in predicting, Yoni. I doubt you're willing to put anything behind your declarations this time around.
    Who's your pollster of choice, Manny?

    I think Pew did a poll earlier this month or last where they oversampled Democrats by 19% in a swing state where, in 2010 and 2008, Democrats only showed up to the polls in numbers 4% greater than Republicans.

    That's what I meant by D+19. There were other polls that did the same but, that was the most egregious.

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    Did y'all see the clip of Rudy Giuliani talking about Biden?...

    I'm definitely not a defender of the complete fraud that is the Obama White House, but I do find it hilarious that Giuliani wasn't saying the same about dumb ass Bush..

    How soon we forget..







    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgPSh...eature=related

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    Who's your pollster of choice, Manny?

    I think Pew did a poll earlier this month or last where they oversampled Democrats by 19% in a swing state where, in 2010 and 2008, Democrats only showed up to the polls in numbers 4% greater than Republicans.

    That's what I meant by D+19. There were other polls that did the same but, that was the most egregious.
    I don't have a pollster of choice. I prefer aggregates of all polls to get a better picture as opposed to a single sampling.

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    There's a lot of past tense in that paragraph.

    21 days.
    It may come as a shock, but when people refer to previous events they use the past tense. Amazing, isn't it?

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    So nothing going on with Joe? How about Mitt, is he switching to VP and handing Ryan the wheel?

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    It may come as a shock, but when people refer to previous events they use the past tense. Amazing, isn't it?
    How about what and how he is doing as Vice President?

    Suggests his best days are behind him, imo.

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    I don't have a pollster of choice. I prefer aggregates of all polls to get a better picture as opposed to a single sampling.
    Do you do the aggregating or is there a site?

    And, if a bunch of biased polls were mixed in with your aggregate polling scheme, wouldn't that affect the outcome?

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    I actually think Hillary told them both to suck it, she's not cleaning up the mess Obama's made.

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    I don't have a pollster of choice. I prefer aggregates of all polls to get a better picture as opposed to a single sampling.
    Agree. 538 has been pretty spot on the last few elections and is normally where I peek at polling.

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    The guy who doesn't know what most means is telling me math is not my strength?

    Who's up in most polls again?
    Brother, I'm sticking with "most". It's you who counted two when atleast 3 were right in front of you. To display most of the polls would be a waste of my time, you already pulled the leaning right card out of your blue bag. God bless

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