Legitimate rape

[ElNono]

Would that be the equivalent of taking you out of your home, and putting you in a hungry lions den?

Not really. It would be more akin to you being connected to a respiratory machine and getting unplugged.

[CuckingFunt]

And, our society allows it 1.21 million times a year. You ain't tin' that's ed up.

No.

I meant it's ed up to consider your daughter analogous to a fetus, which has no personality, no agency, and lacks the ability to live outside of its mother's womb.

[ElNono]

Yes; if you knew it would result in the death of the child.

Why? The fetus was alive when removed.

[jack sommerset]

My point is I don't see much difference between someone raping and murdering my daughter and someone murdering an unborn child that had no choice in being conceived.

I understand your point. I don't agree with it but certainly understand it. God may very well agree with you. I don't know. I know if that happen to my daughter I would support and advise her to abort. I know I would do that. Right or wrong, I couldn't tell you but I would drive her to the hospital myself. This is a tough, emotional subject. It's not cut and dry like some wold think it is. God bless

[Spurminator]

So, why is it murder?

Because the mother chose to keep the child. So you have robbed her of the baby she was going to have, and robbed the baby of a life it was going to have as a result of the mother choosing to keep it.

[Yonivore]

No.

I meant it's ed up to consider your daughter analogous to a fetus, which has no personality, no agency, and lacks the ability to live outside of its mother's womb.

And, I think it's ed up you nonchalantly discard a child.

[ElNono]

How about we lock you in a room for six months with no food or water?

How about it?

[Wild Cobra]

Not really. It would be more akin to you being connected to a respiratory machine and getting unplugged.

Yes, you are unplugging the fetus from its life support.

Isn't it murder if you purposely unplug someone on life support, unless their living will states such a thing, or unless they are never going to live off life support?

A fetus will mature to be able to live off of life support.

[CuckingFunt]

And, I think it's ed up you nonchalantly discard a child.

And I think it's ed up that you, a man, for whom pregnancy is only ever a hypothetical, would assume nonchalance.

[Wild Cobra]

How about it?

Well, you were alive and unharmed when we put you there. How is it different that your proposal?

[ElNono]

Yes, you are unplugging the fetus from its life support.

The problem is that 'life support' in this case isn't a machine. It's another person. If the person doesn't want to provide such life support, why should it?

[Yonivore]

Because the mother chose to keep the child. So you have robbed her of the baby she was going to have, and robbed the baby of a life it was going to have as a result of the mother choosing to keep it.

Now, who's making my point?

Abortion is also robbing the baby of a life it was going to have -- whether or not the mother chooses to allow it to live should be irrelevant.

I'm glad, at least, you recognize the baby as an individual capable of being deprived of life.

[Yonivore]

And I think it's ed up that you, a man, for whom pregnancy is only ever a hypothetical, would assume nonchalance.

1.21 million a year is nonchalant.

[ElNono]

Well, you were alive and unharmed when we put you there. How is it different that your proposal?

I use my cellphone, call the police, get unlocked and get you in jail.

Do you understand the difference between an autonomous being and a fetus now?

[Gold Tooth Carl]

Nope; but, it's not the child's fault - why kill it?

It's not the woman's fault either, so why keep it?

[Wild Cobra]

The problem is that 'life support' in this case isn't a machine. It's another person. If the person doesn't want to provide such life support, why should it?

What if the hospital doesn't want to provide your life support because you cant pay?

[ElNono]

1.21 million a year is nonchalant.

What's the number that works for you? 10 a year? 100? Where's this magical number that makes it 'nonchalant'?

[jack sommerset]

A fetus will mature to be able to live off of life support.

I love how some of the guys say "science" says a fetus its not a baby therefore you are not killing a human being. So ridiculous. Talk about denial. You have a baby growing inside you for crying out loud! God bless

[ElNono]

What if the hospital doesn't want to provide your life support because you cant pay?

The hospital doesn't have that option, thanks to Saint Ronnie.

[Wild Cobra]

I love how some of the guys say "science" says a fetus its not a baby therefore you are not killing a human being. So ridiculous. Talk about denial. You have a baby growing inside you for crying out loud! God bless

I'm just using ElNono's examples and applying logic to them.

[Spurminator]

Now, who's making my point?

Not me. I'm addressing your latest bad comparison.

Abortion is also robbing the baby of a life it was going to have -- whether or not the mother chooses to allow it to live should be irrelevant.

We're aware that this is your opinion.

I'm glad, at least, you recognize the baby as an individual capable of being deprived of life.

Thanks, but I also believe the mother has the legal right to decide if she is going to carry that individual inside of her.

So I'm in no way making your point. The law considering the death of a fetus during assault as murder is perfectly compatible with abortion being legal. Because it starts with the mother's choice to complete the pregnancy.

[Yonivore]

It's not the woman's fault either, so why keep it?

Because it's an innocent child.

[ElNono]

I'm just using ElNono's examples and applying logic to them.

You've failed so far. Then again, your next 'logical' thought will probably be your first.

[Wild Cobra]

The hospital doesn't have that option, thanks to Saint Ronnie.

What is the moral difference? Are you saying you are for hospitals denying life saving care?

[CuckingFunt]

1.21 million a year is nonchalant.

I see.






But it's ridiculous to suggest there's any truth to the "war on women" accusations...