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    It's like you have two guys who are already out with injuries this season. You need something more than a project as your 5th swing. Depth is not a luxury with such an aged rotation.
    Where have we read this before?
    Oh yeah. In every other thread this forum has to offer.

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    Funny, you could say the same thing about you following me around the forum like a lost puppy. Read or scroll.

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    It's like you have two guys who are already out with injuries this season. You need something more than a project as your 5th swing. Depth is not a luxury with such an aged rotation.
    Depth is useless if you have three times the same player.
    If Bowen is injuried, what do you do against team like Houston : you put Robinson on Tmac ?
    Robinson is only usefull is two players are injuried among : Manu, Brent and Finley. It's the case now but it's not sure it will happen again.

    Sanders was one of the better player we could have sign as 5th swingman this season.

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    You can say that about any position. Depth is useful if you need it.

    If Bowen is injured at least you can bring in someone who's played in the league before, not a project like Sanders or Scales. Of course Bowen is hard to replace defensively. So what?

    Sanders was one of the best IR projects the Spurs could've signed this season.

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    Funny, you could say the same thing about you following me around the forum like a lost puppy. Read or scroll.
    It looks that way because you post the same thing in every thread.

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    Damn, you are a woman.

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    You can say that about any position. Depth is useful if you need it.

    If Bowen is injured at least you can bring in someone who's played in the league before, not a project like Sanders or Scales. Of course Bowen is hard to replace defensively. So what?

    Sanders was one of the best IR projects the Spurs could've signed this season.
    One word : complementarity.
    If Bowen is injured, I take Sanders over Robinson.
    Robinson is maybe better but he is too similar with Barry and Finley.

    And signing both Robinson and Sanders sucks.
    Having 15 players on roster sucks, I rather have 14.

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    I suppose SA could play that well, and I'd really like to see them do it before next March. This slow-starting and inconsistency of Spurs traditions are really kind of cheating the fans. WTF is wrong with "coming to play every night"?
    You know, you may be right in that it's "cheating" the fans, but it's a long season and I would rather have the Spurs start slow, pace themselves, be cautious so as to avoid injuries (not you, Manu, we know this isn't your style) and finish strong in the playoffs.

    Very few teams can start strong, play 110% every night, and still avoid injury for 82 games. The choices seem to be:
    1. start strong, fizzle out (this has certainly been the Clippers, the Warriors, etc of the last few seasons)

    2. start slow, and build up momentum.

    3. be up and down all season.

    Personally, I choose the 2nd one, if we have a choice.

    And hey, if a 7-2 start is "slow", that's still the best record in the West right now. And better than the Spurs usually start off.

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    One word : complementarity.
    If Bowen is injured, I take Sanders over Robinson.
    Robinson is maybe better but he is too similar with Barry and Finley.
    Not really. Robinson is a bigger 3 and not a 2 who can see some 3 like Barry and Finley. Sanders is much more of a Finley/Barry type in that regard than GRobinson.


    And signing both Robinson and Sanders sucks.
    Having 15 players on roster sucks, I rather have 14.
    More depth sucks? At worst, Sanders gets playing time in Austin. Suck gone.

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    I'm glad to see Detroit playing well. I wouldn't complain if we faced them in the next five Finalses...es...

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    Not really. Robinson is a bigger 3 and not a 2 who can see some 3 like Barry and Finley. Sanders is much more of a Finley/Barry type in that regard than GRobinson.
    More depth sucks? At worst, Sanders gets playing time in Austin. Suck gone.
    Big Dog is a bad defender like Barry and Finley. If Bowen is out Spurs need defense not scoring.
    Having 15 players sucks because in case of injury, you need to waive a player to sign another.
    As an example if Duncan and Horry are out, Spurs need to sign a PF to a noguaranteed contract. Marks and Oberto can't cover the 48 min at PF.

    If I was Spurs GM, I would sign only a 5th swingman and Sanders was a one of the better choice.
    A lot of people have proposed lots of players as 5th swingman.
    Considering that :
    - Spurs have only the min or the LLE to sign him.
    - He must agree to sign with us
    - It's a 14th man : it means no playoff and most of time on IL.
    - Complementarity with other swingmen : we don't need a shooter

    Sanders was one of the best choice, the only other player Spurs could have sign over him is Barnes.

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    Big Dog is a bad defender like Barry and Finley. If Bowen is out Spurs need defense not scoring.
    Having 15 players sucks because in case of injury, you need to waive a player to sign another.
    As an example if Duncan and Horry are out, Spurs need to sign a PF to a noguaranteed contract. Marks and Oberto can't cover the 48 min at PF.

    Of course, the flip side of that is if you have an injury then you have someone who knows your system already on board to fill in. Not to mention that you don't have to go out looking for just whoever you can find.


    If I was Spurs GM, I would sign only a 5th swingman and Sanders was a one of the better choice.
    A lot of people have proposed lots of players as 5th swingman.
    Considering that :
    - Spurs have only the min or the LLE to sign him.
    - He must agree to sign with us
    - It's a 14th man : it means no playoff and most of time on IL.
    - Complementarity with other swingmen : we don't need a shooter

    Sanders was one of the best choice, the only other player Spurs could have sign over him is Barnes.
    Sure, Barnes would've been nice, but he would've required a guaranteed contract.

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    Actually,

    When A team focusses on regular season success - which is a stated goal of the Pistons this year, I have always seen that team as a little brother, one who was incapable of seeing the big picture.

    I have vivid memories of a 62 win season and a 5-1 record against a Houston team that meant completely when it came nut cuttin time.

    Same think in '01 - '02 AND in '03 - '04 when the record against the Lakers, AND home court advantage was completely meaningless!

    I watched the Spurs dismantle the regular season "champs" last season.

    That being said, Detroit is not a regular season neophyte AS AN ORGANIZATION, but, frankly, the only way Flip has ever seen a path out of the first round was as the team with the best record...so that is obviously a goal he has set out for his crew. Good for them.

    Pop has openly said, and has demonstrated for years, that he does not focus on W/L early in the season, and that the team's position is never THAT big of a concern. He is driving this ship focussing on how good it can be when it matters, not how many "W's" he can pick up along the way. It's not kosher to say so in here, but I think he picked this bit of Zen up from P. Jackson. "Do not let the journey become the goal, Grasshopper, the GOAL is the goal".

    Also, the Spurs, as the prohibitive favorite, AND defending champs, have a big target on their backs this year. They are playing a tougher schedule than any team in the league - getting 82 (maybe more - did you see how tough people were playing 'em in PREseason) little playoff warmups before the real ones begin. I always felt this was the secret to the post season ass-whoopins the Lakers handed the Spurs a few years back. They were more ready for the tough games than the Spurs were - because they had that target all year. They didn't give a crap about any 1 game in the season (even those against the Spurs) - so if they dropped one, no big deal. Kind of like the way the Spurs fans view the Mavericks now. Just because the Mavs torched the Spurs a couple of weeks ago in a November game, does it mean they are a REAL threat to win a series in May? no. Go read a Mavs. board, though, most of them think it does.

    Frankly, I am slightly less afraid of Detroit with their new focus on regular season success. It might indicate a potential lack of perspective. Go ahead, kill yourself. Get your 68 wins. See you in June.

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    worry about the east when you win the west, not before. besides, hca in the finals can be lost easily, especially in a 2-3-2 format.

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    You can say that about any position. Depth is useful if you need it.

    If Bowen is injured at least you can bring in someone who's played in the league before, not a project like Sanders or Scales. Of course Bowen is hard to replace defensively. So what?

    Sanders was one of the best IR projects the Spurs could've signed this season.

    Damn MB,

    I'm going to start a thread en led, "Pops favorites Wines", or "Is Eva Natural?", or "Which Spur drives the fastest car?" and see how long it takes for you to hijack it talking about swingmen.

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    Of course, the flip side of that is if you have an injury then you have someone who knows your system already on board to fill in. Not to mention that you don't have to go out looking for just whoever you can find.
    The matter is that you 15th man doesn't allways play the spot wher you have injuries.
    I rather fill the 15th spot with noguaranteed/10days contract.

    Sure, Barnes would've been nice, but he would've required a guaranteed contract.
    Barnes mades a lots of workout with Spurs this summer, maybe he wasn't so great to have a guarantedd contract, but i would have sign a 5th swingman before the season. now we have Sanders and I like this choice.

    My POV is that some people thinks Spurs could have signed Devin, Evans, Big Dog, Lynch or Dermarr Johnson as 5th swingman : If you look more closely, it's unrealistic or it's a bad fit. I don't like when people trashing on the FO because they haven't sign them.

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    The matter is that you 15th man doesn't allways play the spot wher you have injuries.
    I rather fill the 15th spot with noguaranteed/10days contract.
    With the ability to assign a player to the NDBL, there is an opportunity to bring in a young player you like but don't have an opportunity for minutes in the current season. You also gain the benefit of that season counting towards Early Bird/Bird rights if he is worth it.


    Barnes mades a lots of workout with Spurs this summer, maybe he wasn't so great to have a guarantedd contract, but i would have sign a 5th swingman before the season. now we have Sanders and I like this choice.

    My POV is that some people thinks Spurs could have signed Devin, Evans, Big Dog, Lynch or Dermarr Johnson as 5th swingman : If you look more closely, it's unrealistic or it's a bad fit. I don't like when people trashing on the FO because they haven't sign them.
    I don't like it when people give ownership slack when championships are on the line. At least you have a basis for your argument.

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    Damn MB,

    I'm going to start a thread en led, "Pops favorites Wines", or "Is Eva Natural?", or "Which Spur drives the fastest car?" and see how long it takes for you to hijack it talking about swingmen.

    I hijacked nothing. Read or scroll, don't whine.

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    Worry only when the Spurs have won the WEST and the Pistons have won the EAST.
    Who has the better record ofcourse has HCA but otherwise,I'm only ting bricks if these two teams are in the Finals and its game seven and both are tied with .59 seconds to go in the 4th quarter. Then and only then I will be unable to breathe.

    Was it the Suns that had a 30-2 record last season before the All-star game. I'm not comparing the Pistons to the Suns but I do believe it takes alot more effort to be working both sides of the court for 82 games.

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    We went 14-0 to start the season and look at the success we had!

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    The 2002-03 Dallas Mavericks.
    Dangit mikeyp, you really know how to suck the joy out of 7-0.

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    Should the Spurs be worried?
    Absolutely. The threat of avian flu is very real. Al Qaeda is still out there, plotting mayhem against us. The hurricane season is STILL going on, and there have been lethal tornadoes at a really weird time of year. Our oil supply is vulnerable, our national debt is staggering, the glaciers are shrinking, the ice caps are melting, and school test scores are stagnant. Plus, if the Spurs make it to the Finals, they're going to have to play some other team. Probably a pretty good one.

    So yeah, there's a lot they should be worried about. But I wouldn't put Detroit's record on the list just yet.

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    We went 14-0 to start the season and look at the success we had!

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    Thank you for showing your basketball knowledge. Comparing the Mavs to the Pistons

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    We went 14-0 to start the season and look at the success we had!

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    The 2002-03 Dallas Mavericks.
    It's one thing for a run-n-gun defense-less team to go on a regular season tear. It's a totally different thing for a defensive minded, battle-tested team to do it. Especially considering this group of players is notorious for slow starts.

    The most scary thing about these Pistons is that even though they are 8-0, they are still just Flipping that switch on whenever they feel like it. They have been absolutely dominant in the 2nd half of games.

    But, the season is young. I'll worry about the Spurs if we're there in June. Spurs fans should do the same.
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    But, the season is young. I'll worry about the Spurs if we're there in June. Spurs fans should do the same.
    That was my point exactly.

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    Should the Spurs be worried?

    Are you serious? This early in the season?

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