View Poll Results: who won the debate tonight?

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  • Vice President Biden

    30 62.50%
  • Congressman Ryan

    9 18.75%
  • Draw

    9 18.75%
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  1. #101
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    This Republican got asks a question then gets MAD as when you pick the option he doesn't agree with. Not a surprise from someone that pretends to be black on the internet to make his neocon stance have more 'cred'.
    Are you black? God bless

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    This Republican got asks a question then gets MAD as when you pick the option he doesn't agree with. Not a surprise from someone that pretends to be black on the internet to make his neocon stance have more 'cred'.
    O.J. Simpson with the 720 windmill dunk with no regard for human life.

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    Are you black? God bless
    Then we have this one whose best attempt at being funny is stealing the shtick from the other fake black neocon idiot I just spoke about. I'm pretty sure a year ago you were just the typical foaming-at-the-mouth wingnut like DarrinS.

    Let's hope Hussein wins again so we can see you go off the deep end again and maybe steal Culburn's shtick. Kill yourself.

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    Then we have this one whose best attempt at being funny is stealing the shtick from the other fake black neocon idiot I just spoke about. I'm pretty sure a year ago you were just the typical foaming-at-the-mouth wingnut like DarrinS.

    Let's hope Hussein wins again so we can see you go off the deep end again and maybe steal Culburn's shtick. Kill yourself.
    One could only hope!!

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    Then we have this one whose best attempt at being funny is stealing the shtick from the other fake black neocon idiot I just spoke about. I'm pretty sure a year ago you were just the typical foaming-at-the-mouth wingnut like DarrinS.

    Let's hope Hussein wins again so we can see you go off the deep end again and maybe steal Culburn's shtick. Kill yourself.
    Ill take that as a "no" you are not black. Pretending to be a black murderer on the internet says a lot about you, brother. Let's pray this not a upgrade from the real you. God bless

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    Ill take that as a "no" you are not black. Pretending to be a black murderer on the internet says a lot about you, brother. Let's pray this not a upgrade from the real you. God bless
    lol.. fake christian calling out others for being fake on the internets.. priceless


    eliot ness

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    Biden

    • Smug
    • Disrespectful
    • Used car salesman tactics


    The VP came across as a corporate VP having a debate against a department manager, talking down to his opponent instead of talking with his opponent. The smug grins every time Ryan began to speak were unnecessary. He got visibly shaken and resorted to a louder more insistent tone of voice with both the host and with Ryan.


    Ryan
    • Evasive
    • Repe ive
    • Rehearsed lines
    • Fast talker


    Ryan continually used the word "look" as a doorway to a tangent when he either wouldn't or couldn't answer the question. He never answered just how Romney loves car manufacturers or cars in general and instead talked about Romney paying for someone's tuition although the lead in was that Romney loves cars and here's an example. Biden never called him on it. It was quite obvious both men had talking points and neither addressed what was really being said by the other person.

    The debate itself showed the underbelly of politics. Both sides want to rape us next, and they are both telling us that we need their form of rape, that it's good for us and that they really care for us. If you look back over the decades, these guys and their friends get more wealthy and the general population gets less wealthy. They are shearing the American people. None of it was desirable. I hate politics.

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    Just like the NBA polls, you might as well just ask "Left or Right?" and the results will almost always be identical to any question you could ask that requires people to choose sides.

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    "Both sides want to rape us next"

    False equivalence, as usual. Repugs want MORE to rape the 99%, esp the moochers and takers 47%, HARDER and DEEPER.



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    I have realized that the polls on who won any debate are pointless because few seem to listen to what is actually said.

    You should not vote for personalities, but instead for policies. I said the same thing after the Presidential debate and the same after this - no one said anything that revealed that his positions and policies are any different than they were a month ago. You should not vote for or against someone because he smiled or did not smile - or even worse the women who have said that Ryan won because he looked better!

    And if I see one more room of supposedly undecided voters who then answer questions in very partisan ways, I may scream. Oh. I think Ryan won because he gave more specifics...

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    Who knew politeness was so important to Americans?

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    Just like the NBA polls, you might as well just ask "Left or Right?" and the results will almost always be identical to any question you could ask that requires people to choose sides.
    I don't agree. I think that last week there were Obama supporters who admitted they thought Romney won the debate. No matter what Obama does next week, I expect just about no Romney supporter ever to admit they think Obama did better even if it seems like he did to those who try to remain neutral.

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    "Both sides want to rape us next"

    False equivalence, as usual. Repugs want MORE to rape the 99%, esp the moochers and takers 47%, HARDER and DEEPER.


    Either you're a government/taxpayer dependent individual or you differentiate between rapists. Just because your side lets the 47% smell their s after the rape of the 53% doesn't mean it's not still a rape.

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    Who knew politeness was so important to Americans?
    If they were consistent, I would not mind. Romney walks all over the moderator, and he is aggressive, but somehow Biden was being rude.

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    I don't agree. I think that last week there were Obama supporters who admitted they thought Romney won the debate. No matter what Obama does next week, I expect just about no Romney supporter ever to admit they think Obama did better even if it seems like he did to those who try to remain neutral.
    Well of course, there are always "some" but if you are saying that people (especially in this forum) by and large are impartial, that's naive. This forum is by and large left leaning. Young people are by and large left leaning. Sure there are exceptions, that's why I said "almost always" and not "always".

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    If they were consistent, I would not mind. Romney walks all over the moderator, and he is aggressive, but somehow Biden was being rude.
    I am guessing you are a Democrat. Am I wrong?

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    I have realized that the polls on who won any debate are pointless because few seem to listen to what is actually said.

    You should not vote for personalities, but instead for policies. I said the same thing after the Presidential debate and the same after this - no one said anything that revealed that his positions and policies are any different than they were a month ago. You should not vote for or against someone because he smiled or did not smile - or even worse the women who have said that Ryan won because he looked better!

    And if I see one more room of supposedly undecided voters who then answer questions in very partisan ways, I may scream. Oh. I think Ryan won because he gave more specifics...
    Biden said the most important thing said in this election and that was about the next President selecting 2 USSC justices. The Supreme Court rulings directly impact most of us and it's very difficult to undo any of that.

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    Biden won. I could have done without the excessive sighs and grins but he can get away with it unlike Gore who was a stiff. Ryan wasn't terrible but he's not even vanilla. I don't totally agree with assesments that he held his own with Biden. He's not quite ready for prime time. The republicans have a history of picking awful VP candidates.

    Where I think Biden won was where, as someone mentioned earlier, he took Ryan to task on using the stimilus money he apparently thought was a bad solution. I thought Biden also won the healthcare and Afghanistan issues.

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    Looks like CNN poll has Ryan as winner. 48 to 44.
    This poll does not and cannot reflect the views of all Americans. It only represents the views of people who watched the debate and by definition cannot be an indication of how the entire American public will react to Wednesday's debate in the coming days," cautions CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

    One-third of the respondents who participated in tonight's survey identified themselves as Republicans, with 31% identifying themselves as Democrats, and 34% identifying themselves as independents.

    "That indicates that the sample of debate watchers is more Republican than an average of recent CNN polls of all Americans," adds Holland.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...n-48-biden-44/

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    I am guessing you are a Democrat. Am I wrong?
    Wrong.

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    Your responses on this forum seem to indicate otherwise. Are you splitting hairs?

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    shrewd move by biden in sticking with the "we inherited the whole from bush" card tbh.

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    There's no "inherited". They spent millions to get elected. That's not inheritance, that's a bidding war. They bought that issue.

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    the economy has been going downturn for many years since even before bush took office. the snow ball has been rolling & growing for so many years its beyond possible to melt it down in just a few years, obama is a terrible mother er who's basically done nothing right to this country but it isn't like you or anyone else could've done any better than he did imho, and romney could be even worse

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    There's no "inherited". They spent millions to get elected. That's not inheritance, that's a bidding war. They bought that issue.
    It's what makes this whole thing a very unfunny joke. There's no way a "normal" guy can get elected. By the time a politician gets to that level, he's already sold his soul 100x over.

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