Seafood Raised on Animal Feces Approved for US Consumers

[RandomGuy]

Are people finally waking up about buying things outside of USA health regulations?

Pfft. Without that government interference, foreign entrepreneurs can provide food at a low cost. They make a profit, individual risk gets rewarded, and we get low cost food.

You don't have a problem with that do you?

[DMC]

What's amusing is how we pretend US companies don't do the same things. I am all for keeping our business here, we can raise our own tilapia and we can inspect those growers, however the growers would likely get their products from China.

I have a friend who manufacturers broadheads for arrows. He started off with a higher price than his compe ors and his reason was that all of his parts were made in the US, that he would not sacrifice quality for profit. Now he gets his parts from China because he could not stay in business as other companies would reverse engineer his inventions and have them made in China and sold in the US for half his price.

We should tariff the out of Chinese imports.

[Clipper Nation]

lol FDA

"They keep us safe as long as you ignore the yearly E coli and salmonella epidemics from gross food"

[boutons_deux]

"we can raise our own tilapia"

farmed fish is pure crap, fed , fed antiobiotics due to the concentration of fish waste and other pollutants, etc, etc.

[101A]

I hate fish.

Whew.

[Clipper Nation]

Pfft. Without that government interference, foreign entrepreneurs can provide food at a low cost. They make a profit, individual risk gets rewarded, and we get low cost food.

You don't have a problem with that do you?

Gub'mint regulatory bodies are and will always be inherently susceptible to 1% lobbyist tactics, which causes the regulations to favor huge corporations and fatten the 1%ers' wallets while hurting small businesses and downgrading our standards of living....

[boutons_deux]

Farmed Salmon Decimating Wild Salmon Worldwide

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/02/080212-salmon-lice.html

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dog's are copro es and to some are man's best friend.

[LnGrrrR]

You want to provide more jobs?

Demand 100% inspection of all imported good. Even if it's not food, justification can be to make sure terrorists are bringing in nukes!

You should run for President!

[ElNono]

The diet can't transmit salmonella.

FTA:

That practice is dangerous for American consumers, says Michael Doyle, director of the University of Georgia’s Center for Food Safety.
“The manure the Chinese use to feed fish is frequently contaminated with microbes like salmonella,” says Doyle, who has studied foodborne diseases in China.

[Agloco]

You want to provide more jobs?

Demand 100% inspection of all imported good. Even if it's not food, justification can be to make sure terrorists are bringing in nukes!

We already do this. And no, it won't create more jobs.

[CosmicCowboy]

FTA:

That practice is dangerous for American consumers, says Michael Doyle, director of the University of Georgia’s Center for Food Safety.
“The manure the Chinese use to feed fish is frequently contaminated with microbes like salmonella,” says Doyle, who has studied foodborne diseases in China.

Dude if you don't believe me, google is your friend. Salmonella is really common and can be on anything. The last big outbreak in the US was from freaking cantaloupes. It is caused by contamination from that contains the salmonella bacteria. This happens from improper food processing, not from what the fish/animal ate. Salmonella poisoning is caused by the double whammy of improper food handling/processing and improper/undercooked food.

[ElNono]

Dude if you don't believe me, google is your friend. Salmonella is really common and can be on anything. The last big outbreak in the US was from freaking cantaloupes. It is caused by contamination from that contains the salmonella bacteria. This happens from improper food processing, not from what the fish/animal ate. Salmonella poisoning is caused by the double whammy of improper food handling/processing and improper/undercooked food.

I'll gladly take your word for it

[TeyshaBlue]

I'll gladly take your word for it

Let's hire Agloco to do some self-experimentation!

What say ye, AG?

[CosmicCowboy]

I'll gladly take your word for it

BTW, I read somewhere that 40% of chickens randomly tested in grocery stores had some salmonella contamination.

[SA210]

"They keep us safe as long as you ignore the yearly E coli and salmonella epidemics from gross food"

They murder millions every year with their lies and suppression of real health and cure information, tbh.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

FTA:

That practice is dangerous for American consumers, says Michael Doyle, director of the University of Georgia’s Center for Food Safety.
“The manure the Chinese use to feed fish is frequently contaminated with microbes like salmonella,” says Doyle, who has studied foodborne diseases in China.

Dude if you don't believe me, google is your friend. Salmonella is really common and can be on anything. The last big outbreak in the US was from freaking cantaloupes. It is caused by contamination from that contains the salmonella bacteria. This happens from improper food processing, not from what the fish/animal ate. Salmonella poisoning is caused by the double whammy of improper food handling/processing and improper/undercooked food.

smh

[FuzzyLumpkins]

BTW, I read somewhere that 40% of chickens randomly tested in grocery stores had some salmonella contamination.

i read somewhere that you like sticking your thumb up your butt.

[ElNono]

BTW, I read somewhere that 40% of chickens randomly tested in grocery stores had some salmonella contamination.

That's why I opt for the file mignon, tbh...

[CosmicCowboy]

smh

Leave it to the ing dumbass to still not get it.

Of course some of the has salmonella in it. However, it does not contaminate the fish meat when the fish eats it. The salmonella stays in the digestive tract and is theoretically disposed of when the fish is gutted, cleaned, and processed.

Now if they wash the fish in the same contaminated water then NOW the salmonella can be on the surface of the meat where it could be dangerous if the fish is undercooked.

You really ARE a dumb mother er, aren't you?

[CosmicCowboy]

As I stated in my original post, if you want to worry about Chinese tilapia, worry about the polluted water they are grown in. The fish are raised in the same river water that all the Chinese factories are still dumping toxic waste in. A lot of THAT stuff (like mercury and other heavy metals) can find it's way into the meat.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Leave it to the ing dumbass to still not get it.

Of course some of the has salmonella in it. However, it does not contaminate the fish meat when the fish eats it. The salmonella stays in the digestive tract and is theoretically disposed of when the fish is gutted, cleaned, and processed.

Now if they wash the fish in the same contaminated water then NOW the salmonella can be on the surface of the meat where it could be dangerous if the fish is undercooked.

You really ARE a dumb mother er, aren't you.

I don't pretend to be a microbiologist, princess. You will have to excuse me to not take CosmicFarmboy at his recollection.

Cornell OTOH:

How is it spread?

Most times salmonella bacteria's "route of entry" into a "host ( human or animal)" is "oral", i.e., the host ingests salmonella bacteria directly ("fecal-oral") or indirectly ("fecal-fomite/food-oral"). For example it is possible to come into direct contact with manure if dirty hands are used to wipe your face/mouth/eyes, when smoking, or even to get splashed with manure in the face from a cow's tail. It is also possible to indirectly come into oral contact with Salmonella on a fomite (inanimate object) that has been contaminated with salmonella bacteria, such as a soiled cigarette, a cup, a pen placed into the mouth, and especially when eating food or drinking fluids contaminated with fecal matter. For a cow, most often they ingest salmonellae in their water or feed, or they come into oral contact with the barn environment (various surfaces, freestall floor, etc.).

Conditions under which salmonella survive in the environment?

Salmonella bacteria love wet environments shielded from the sun. They have the remarkable ability to survive under adverse conditions. They survive between the pH's of 4 to 8+, and can grow between 8 and 45 C. Salmonella are facultative anaerobic bacteria that can survive under low oxygen tension such as in manure slurry pits. Salmonella are known to survive for long periods in soil and in water. Salmonellae spread onto fields in the form of manure may survive for long periods; it is best to spread the manure onto flat land (to prevent runoff problems) where it is exposed to the drying effects of wind, and to the bactericidal effect of UV irradiation from the sun; manure should be spread onto cropland rather than onto pastures for grazing. There has been much recent investigation into the advantages of different manure disposal methods; composting has many advantages from the standpoint of controlling disease. Salmonellae are no more or less sensitive to the effects of commonly used disinfectants than are other fecal bacteria. Chlorine solutions, iodines, quaternary ammoniums, phenolics, etc., are very good at killing salmonellae on surfaces; however, efficient scraping/dry cleaning is important to get rid of organic matter and bedding, followed by wet cleaning with high pressure hot water/steam and then disinfection. The interval between wet cleaning and disinfection must not be too long or salmonellae can "bloom" in the wet environment. Many strains are relatively resistant to the effects of drying, salting, and smoking of foods. However, salmonellae are very sensitive to beta and gamma irradiation.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases...T104facts.html

So two questions:

1) Do you sell your cattle that have gotten infected with salmonellosis as food?
2) Hows the thumb taste?

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't pretend to be a microbiologist, princess. You will have to excuse me to not take CosmicFarmboy at his recollection.

Cornell OTOH:



http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases...T104facts.html

So two questions:

1) Do you sell your cattle that have gotten infected with salmonellosis as food?
2) Hows the thumb taste?

Good lord, you really ARE one stupid mother er.

To get salmonella poisoning you have to eat the salmonella contaminated ...You don't get salmonella poisoning from eating the meat from an animal that ate salmonella contaminated if the meat is handled properly...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Good lord, you really ARE one stupid mother er.

To get salmonella poisoning you have to eat the salmonella contaminated ...You don't get salmonella poisoning from eating the meat from an animal that ate salmonella contaminated if the meat is handled properly...

So a eater is not contaminated? It's really simple princess. if they are fed and killed with the still in the the salmonella will still be in there. i suppose anything if 'handled properly' will not harm you. But eating with salmonella tainted in it is not a good thing.

You didn't answer the question: do you sell your cows after they have been infected for beef or dairy? You evaded it last time.

If you want to eat sip out of your own septic system.

[CosmicCowboy]

So a eater is not contaminated? It's really simple princess. if they are fed and killed with the still in the the salmonella will still be in there. i suppose anything if 'handled properly' will not harm you. But eating with salmonella tainted in it is not a good thing.

You didn't answer the question: do you sell your cows after they have been infected for beef or dairy? You evaded it last time.

If you want to eat sip out of your own septic system.

ing dumbass. You eat beef that ate salmonella all the time. well over 30% of feedlots are contaminated with salmonella.

Seriously...your stupid is showing.

, YOU are probably carrying some salmonella in your digestive tract.