I remember back when you could graduate from HS and work in manufacturing and make good money.
You work harder than you might have had to 10 years ago to get the entry level position. That might mean having to do an unpaid internship one summer early in college and a more formal internship before your senior year rather than taking 2 summers off to around and party. I know that sounds god awful and really unfun, but plenty of people are able to do it and still have fun in school. Hard to believe, but true.
DMC, I'm not sure if you misinterpreted what I said or you are delusional. Those entry level jobs are exactly what the majority of college graduates are applying for. Not only are they competing against the increasing number of people with a BA/BS, but they are also competing with those who have a wealth of experience in the field. Hate to say it, but the job market isn't perfectly compe ive.
Your six figure example is pretty funny though. Plenty of lawyers, dentists, pharmacists, PhDs in academia, etc would disagree. Saturated.
As far as you patronizing me and my major, I'm well aware of how supply and demand works. Demand might be there, but you have a surplus of labor causing that congestion in the market.
Edward, don't confuse the job market with your college career fair.
I'm not. I know you're just gonna dismiss this as measuring but in the last week 3 different companies, all of which I never reached out to or contacted, called me to set up an interview. 2 of them are jobs I'm not really interested in at all, but I'd say that's a lot more of the job market than a college career fair.
I'm not going to make too many assumptions because I know nothing regarding your college/major/experience, but do you really think that is common for college graduates? Or even just your major's graduates? There are always outliers, consider yourself lucky and hopefully the one you want works out.
Honestly, I do not know too many people working at a job that is directly related to their major anymore, which is why I found all this arguing about a major's importance funny. It's about adapting and leveraging the skills you possess to a similar field that is hiring. I see no problem with a person seeking a degree in something they are passionate about because being stuck in a career they don't enjoy sounds like a nightmare.
Wow. You don't know anyone working in a job related to the degree they got? Damn what ty job do you have?
Also, so what, someone goes back to school and gets a different degree in some obscure liberal art. If we use your experiences, they wouldn't get a job related to their degree of choice, so it would be a moot point.
You are terrible with semantics aren't you?
Maybe a couple of liberal arts classes wouldn't have hurt.
Probably wouldn't have helped either.
Wouldn't be the classes' fault, that's for sure.
DMC I'm pretty sure is worth more than either one of us so the liberal arts classes he did/didn't take probably worked out fine for him. Lets see who responds to this with some
lol liberal arts majors thinking their major isn't the reason why their life blows. ask yourself this, what skill did those classes really teach you that real people would pay money for you to do for them? what technical skills did you acquire and how do they prepare you to do something people need and are willing to pay good money for?
Seriously, good for him. I'm not going to hate on someone for doing something they enjoy and ultimately being successful at it. Also never going to hate on someone making bank, definitely wouldn't mind that myself.
What was your major DMC and where did it take you as far as jobs go?
^DMC is a motha in engineer just like me tbh, electrical if im not mistaken
My major was EE. I'm kinda a big deal around here.
I will. It's a lesson learned over time though. Usually the hard way. Such is human nature.Lets see who responds to this with some
DMC is my Spurstalk hero tbh.
I'm curious to know where you got the impression that internships aren't a part of liberal arts.
I'm just glad my comment just slid under the radar completely and haven't been attacked once in this thread.
Continue on.....
You sure do like attention.
Why ask how to break into the business if you know there are internships?
this has yet to be answered by the pretentious liberal art majors in dis here thread.
To be fair, there is indeed an oversaturation of graduating students even in science. Coming out of university with a Bsc gives you almost no prospects in the field (at least when trying to enter), unless you're willing to work at a position for 25-30K. , I've had science professors tell us that 'university is to learn, not to find a job. If you want a job, go to a vocational school'.
I knew coming out of my first degree I wasn't getting unless I had a well connected uncle or some - this was the same for all of my peers. Even after my masters degree (which was extremely rigorous) you're looking at working as a lab technician/technologist/clinical trial coordinator for ~35K.
I had to go to a college program (concept of colleges here are slightly different here; refer to technical schools for specialized professional/vocational education) which offered an internship component in order to get my foot in the door. It's definitely possible to do the grunt work and make connections completely on your own, but depending on your field you're realistically competing against thousands of students putting in the same work.
I didn't ask how to break into the business.
my roomate has a bio BA and got on with a lab as a tech here in Austin for around that, temped for around 6 months then got hired on. i think he's up to around 40 after 2 years badged or so.
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