Thunder: Not worried here

[thunderfan]

But 45 for JH on 14-19?! . Lol. They're gonna wear him out.

[Richie]

your point is...? Houston isn't even in the same ballpark as OKC. Get over yourself already

I'm not a hater, but lets be honest. 2013 OKC isn't in the same ballpark as 2012 OKC

[ElNono]

lol not worried

[thunderfan]

lol thunder

Lol soccer, bugattis, and the old ass Mavs.

[thunderfan]

I'm not a hater, but lets be honest. 2013 OKC isn't in the same ballpark as 2012 OKC

The verdict is still out

[Clipper Nation]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

"So not worried"

[Samuel Eto'o]

I'm not a hater, but lets be honest. 2013 OKC isn't in the same ballpark as 2012 OKC

true. We can confidently say that was an awful trade for OKC.

[Kidd K]

OKC's ceiling is 3rd seed and 2nd round knockout this year imo.

Clippers are better now. So I could see OKC being just 4th seed behind them.

[Latarian Milton]

Kevin Martin put 35-40 on the board for Houston too. Who gives a ? It's a one man show. I like Harden, but don't go throwing his stat lines up like Houston is even worth a damn yet.

truth bomb son, having superstar stats doesn't mean when/if you play for houston tbh, even a 7'6 long gigantic piece of crap could achieve 20+10 in houston

[sook]

truth bomb son, having superstar stats doesn't mean when/if you play for houston tbh, even a 7'6 long gigantic piece of crap could achieve 20+10 in houston

[fukyoteamclown]

fukyoteamclown

[z0sa]

Harden had some huge plays against the Spurs in last years' WCFs. This trade, combined with LA looking lethargic, has breathed new life into the Spurs chances of taking the West tbh.

[benefactor]

This thread is going to be year long bump worthy greatness.

[Raven]

still can't understand why they didn't just get rid of perkins instead... but anyway, they got decent value.

[thunderfan]

truth bomb son, having superstar stats doesn't mean when/if you play for houston tbh, even a 7'6 long gigantic piece of crap could achieve 20+10 in houston

Do you even bother reading before you reply? I SAID no one gives a about stats - ie Martin putting up big numbers for Houston. I don't need a "truth bomb" telling me what I already stated.

[thunderfan]

fukyoteamclown

You're real intelligent

[Spursfan092120]

not worried but started a thread

First thing I thought when I saw the thread

[DAF86]

Are thunder fans really this stupid or are they just trolling?

[DAF86]

your point is...? Houston isn't even in the same ballpark as OKC. Get over yourself already

His point is that your team is worse than last year because of your cheap ass owner, imho.

[thunderfan]

His point is that your team is worse than last year because of your cheap ass owner, imho.

I believe you're wrong. OKC is a different team without Harden, but they aren't any worse. I truly believe that. People look at Harden's two games in Houston and make individual comparisons to him and Martin. Of course Harden is the superior player overall, but in OKC's system, he's no more effective than Martin will be.

[BillMc]

I believe you're wrong. OKC is a different team without Harden, but they aren't any worse. I truly believe that. People look at Harden's two games in Houston and make individual comparisons to him and Martin. Of course Harden is the superior player overall, but in OKC's system, he's no more effective than Martin will be.

If that's true, then Martin will be in the running for Sixth Man of the Year this season. I'm a bit skeptical.

That said, generally, I agree with you. Stories of OKC's demise are much exaggerated.

[DAF86]

I believe you're wrong. OKC is a different team without Harden, but they aren't any worse. I truly believe that. People look at Harden's two games in Houston and make individual comparisons to him and Martin. Of course Harden is the superior player overall, but in OKC's system, he's no more effective than Martin will be.

Are you saying that you expect Martin to post similar stats and have a similar impact in games than Harden had?

[racm]

Harden got Houston clutch baskets. Westbrook makes a fool of himself in crunch time (remember when he scored 43 against Miami then stupidly fouled Mario Chalmers? Or when he let Parker break free for a game winning shot)?

OKC had a nice id-ego-superego dynamic with Westbrook/Harden/Durant, and taking out the guy who strikes the balance was their mistake.

[thunderfan]

Are you saying that you expect Martin to post similar stats and have a similar impact in games than Harden had?

Well, yes, but this isn't a Martin for Harden swap where Martin is expected to go in and do exactly what Harden did. He can't and won't. But he can provide the same scoring output as Harden would have. It's just that the adjustments will have to be made. The dynamic of the team is different now, lineups will change, but with the players they have I believe they are potentially just as good, if not better.

[Stabula]

I strongly dislike the Clippers but honestly I think they're going to seed higher than OKC this year. Their bench is pretty stacked this year. I would be blown away if OKC made it to the finals again ahead of the Spurs or the Clippers. With the Lakers playing the worst brand of basketball that they've played since before I was born the Spurs, barring major injuries, seem poised to take the west.