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  1. #151
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    Will probably try to play him on the role of Stoudamire on the Suns.
    That won't work out very well since Amare being able to hit midrange shots was a huge part of his role with the Suns.

  2. #152
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    sry brah but its easier to refer to you all as a collective rather than individually. i'm surprised that ANY lakerfan thinks D'antoni is a good hire considering some of the coaches in their history. then again he is replacing Mike Brown so see the addition by subtraction angle
    Honestly, what would you do if Pop got replaced with D'antoni. Hypothetically speaking, I'm sure he has an assistant he groomed to take over. That's what we got, either love it and cheer yourself up or go bandwagon the heat. Phil was what we all wanted, didn't get him, D'antoni is the new HC.

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    That won't work out very well since Amare being able to hit midrange shots was a huge part of his role with the Suns.
    It obviously wouldn't work in the exact same way but I think that's what they're going to try to do with him: being the principal "screen setter", specially 'cause Pau can spread the floor away from the ball and Dwight can't.

  4. #154
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    i'd be ing pissed and would boycott the Spurs until they fired him tbh. Hiring a coach like D'antoni says that your management is not serious about contending, at least from the perspective of having a strong coach who knows what he's doing. D'antoni doesn't even know how to coach defense and he's got the best defensive player on his team. i can't wait to see how he manages to turn the Lakers into a fun and gun team that gets shat on on the defensive side.

  5. #155
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    I think it was a good move all things considered. The difference is Laker fan, now that Phil is out, is doing a 180 on what they were just saying when they thought Phil was in.

    Yeah, probably. D'antoni knows he needs to implement solid defense since he's asking for assistants to make up for his lack of defensive knowledge. I guess it's a bright side that he knows he can't just run & gun all game with an older team, maybe that strategy will help our bench since they are pretty young.

  6. #156
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    i'd be ing pissed and would boycott the Spurs until they fired him tbh. Hiring a coach like D'antoni says that your management is not serious about contending, at least from the perspective of having a strong coach who knows what he's doing. D'antoni doesn't even know how to coach defense and he's got the best defensive player on his team. i can't wait to see how he manages to turn the Lakers into a fun and gun team that gets shat on on the defensive side.
    Ah, but you know nothing to do about it. D'antoni knows he needs to play defense though. I'm hoping he picks a good staff to deal with that.

  7. #157
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    Having Dwight Howard (healthy) means you have a good defense. Once he's back into it fully, LA will be solid defensively*

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    In the paint, but when teams are shooting the 3 well then we usually have troubles.

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    I thought he had knee surgery?
    Means he and bean have more in common.

    Mike D was the solution though, they just needed to have more non-working systems to learn. They should be good after a couple months.

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    With MDA at the helm the Lakers will begin their domination. Defense won't be an issue with Dwight Howard guarding the cup.

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    As long as it's:::

    Kobe: 5

    Tired old bag Duncan: 4

    I'm fine. Deal with it.
    ty troll imitation tbh

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    unlike most spurfans i don't fellate timvp after every post. his opinion is not fact tbh

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    2 words; Phili

    Ok one word


    In my expert opinion, the Lakers stopped caring about championships when Shaq left. Sure they grabbed a couple more with Gasol, but they are now more interested in supplying monkeyball for the big contract they signed. Slowing the game by dumping down to Howard isn't what people want to see. They want to see dunks in the pick and roll and fast breaks.

    I predict a few fast breaks, only on knees and ankles and backs instead of hardwood.

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    you weren't supposed to see that

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    Ah, but you know nothing to do about it. D'antoni knows he needs to play defense though. I'm hoping he picks a good staff to deal with that.
    He should have known this his entire tenure as a professional head coach. He knew his teams needed to play defense when they were actually good and he still didn't give a . I don't see him changing his philosophies now

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    unlike most spurfans i don't fellate timvp after every post. his opinion is not fact tbh
    I'm actually jealous of that ...he be getting mad sloppy head from Spur fan...Spur fan be watching like a Bird watcher...if he even attempts to unzip his fly they on the attack

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    It's not a bad move since Brown lost his team therefore whatever coach will still be an improvement but it would have been difficult to find somebody worst than D'Antoni

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    D'Antoni is a better coach than Mike Dunleavy, Nate McMillan or any of the other candidates outside of Jackson, tbh..

    All these coaches are severely flawed, at least D'Antoni is successful at coaching one key aspect of basketball, unlike most coaches in the NBA, tbh..

    Lakers bench sucks, they have no shooters and their D is questionable, but this would have been the case regardless of the coach..

    There are only 8-9 coaches in the NBA that I would take over Pringles, tbh..

  19. #169
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    TBH, jokes aside, it's an upgrade. Nonetheless, I dont think the Lakers have the shooters that Mike needs.

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    I actually think this is a good move for the Lakers. The reason why I think so is because he most likely the only coach who will be able to get all of the Lakers players the amount of touches they want. It is probably the best way to develop chemistry with all of the high profile players on the Lakers.

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    Trollinger chimes in:

    D'Antoni the right choice for Lakers

    All things considered, L.A. made the right decision (PER Diem: Nov. 12, 2012)
    Originally Published: November 12, 2012
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    It's an extreme irony that just days after Mike Brown talked about Steve Nash never winning a championship in Mike D'Antoni's offense, the Lakers whacked Brown so Steve Nash could pursue a championship running Mike D'Antoni's offense.


    L.A.'s decision to fire Brown on Friday was the kind of knee-jerk silliness that we'd normally expect from Sacramento or the Knicks -- if you thought the guy was good enough on opening day, five games shouldn't change your mind. To that extent, it may hint at some larger issues in the Lakers' front office under Jim Buss.


    It's also highly illogical that the Lakers were so focused on the merits of their coaching candidate's offenses -- Princeton versus Triangle versus Seven Seconds or Less -- when the Lakers' failing in their first five games came almost entirely at the defensive end. Even after two strong home wins under the undefeated Bernie Bickerstaff, the Lakers are tied for 10th in defensive efficiency.


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    Nonetheless, Brown's decision to shepherd in the Slowtime Era was an unwieldy mistake given his personnel, and the Lakers clearly came into the season already harboring a lot of doubts about him. I'll offer this additional critique that was scarcely mentioned -- he was playing the key players way too many minutes.


    As for D'Antoni, he never quite got his due for what he accomplished in Phoenix, implementing a system with Nash that basically shocked the league for a few years while everyone figured out how to guard it (and eventually copy it). D'Antoni effectively provided the blueprint for how teams could space the floor and take advantage of the mid-decade hand-checking rules, and he still does it better than anyone else.


    Somehow, the narrative on this accomplishment turned from "he completely knocked the league on its [butt]" to "he took a 29-win team and prevented it from winning a championship." What D'Antoni did in Phoenix was historic.


    But it's a copycat league, and once Phoenix's system was copied, the surprise factor wasn't quite as strong. You now see elements of D'Antoni's offense all over the league -- Phoenix still uses it, and most of the league's other teams have appropriated large chunks of it. One of the few resistors, actually, was the Lakers.


    You can see the impact over time. The Suns led the league in offensive efficiency the first three seasons Nash and D'Antoni worked together, with the first season in particular being one of the best offensive teams in history. But by his final season, the Suns were second, and his clubs in New York were 17th three times in four seasons.


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    In other words, just like everywhere else, the players usually matter a lot more than the system. For a brief window, D'Antoni was able to get the "system" part of that equation punching way above its weight.


    D'Antoni will have some players in L.A., fortunately, starting with Nash. He might be a bit older and a bit slower than he was in his heyday, but he is still one of the best pick-and-roll prac ioners you'll ever see. With Dwight Howard as a roll man, Kobe Bryant on the weak side with Metta World Peace (who, despite his other faults, is a good corner 3-point shooter), and Pau Gasol lifting for midrange jumpers, the Lakers certainly have enough weapons to make this half-court system work.


    And make no mistake, this is mostly a half-court system. Seven Seconds or Less is a catchy name, but this system has more to do with drag screens for Nash and quick-hitting plays early in the shot clock than it does with players flying up and down the court in transition, especially if Leandro Barbosa and Shawn Marion aren't involved. Every one of D'Antoni's teams has finished in the top 10 in pace, as have every one of Nash's teams, but it's been a long time since either led the league or even came close. With this roster, one shouldn't necessarily expect Showtime 2.0.


    Of course, the real way to look at the D'Antoni decision is by comparing it to the alternatives. I think we can immediately throw out the "he never won a ring" critique, as there was only one viable candidate who had. Otherwise, the only coaches who are (a) alive, (b) unemployed, and (c) won a le in the last quarter-century are Rudy Tomjanovich -- been there, done that -- and Larry Brown, who has since evolved into a parody of himself.


    Among the rest of the field, D'Antoni was the one who had the best chance to get the, er, strong-willed Kobe Bryant to go along with the program, given the experience the two have had with USA Basketball and their shared quasi-Italian bond.


    With one exception, obviously: Phil Jackson. Nonetheless, I thought D'Antoni was the right move based on the information that's out there. No sitting exec is going to willingly cede power, as Jackson apparently wanted, and having him skip road games wasn't going to be practical. One can argue the Lakers should have kept the door open for longer while negotiating with Jackson -- D'Antoni literally wasn't going anywhere, as he's recovering from knee-replacement surgery -- but the endgame seemed pretty clear, and hiring Phil under those terms would have been nearly as knee-jerky as firing Brown.


    Which leaves us with D'Antoni, and his challenge of managing Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant. The coach had trouble standing up to an iso-happy scorer with a big ego in New York (Carmelo Anthony); how is he going to fare with these two?


    It's a fair question; that and doubts about D'Antoni's defensive chops are his two biggest obstacles to success in L.A. Nonetheless, there should be enough touches to go around for everybody, especially once Howard sees how many uncontested dunks Nash can get him. As for the defense, D'Antoni's teams were more "average" than "bad" at this end, but the critique that he has almost entirely focused on the offense from a practice and preparation standpoint has been widespread. With a defensive dominator like Howard, there's no excuse for L.A. not to have a top-10 defense.


    D'Antoni's other challenge may be his roster. His later teams in Phoenix succeeded even when there wasn't a ton of shooting on the court -- the frontcourt was Marion-Boris Diaw-Amare Stoudemire -- but they were in the top four in 3-pointers every year. The Lakers' roster just doesn't have that kind of shooting.


    A few short-term fixes can improve the situation a bit. We'll probably see a lot more of Jodie Meeks, and Antawn Jamison may see more minutes as a floor-spacing 4 rather than a fish-out-of-water 3. We may even see Steve Blake playing off the ball as a 2.


    I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Lakers pursue another wing shooter. They'll probably inquire about Miami's little-used James Jones, a veteran of D'Antoni's system, and kick the tires on guys like Shawne Williams and Raja Bell, if Bell can ever work a buyout with Utah. (Side note: You also gotta think Barbosa is bummed he chose Boston over L.A.)


    But in the short term, D'Antoni may have to play more traditional iso basketball. With Nash out and Blake nursing an abdominal injury, he's left entrusting his precious offense to Chris Duhon and Darius Morris. Egads.


    Of course, the short term isn't what the Lakers are worrying about. (Well, unless it involves Mike Brown.) More practically, D'Antoni has 75 games to get the Lakers' offense humming at the championship-caliber level everyone expected before the season, and to do it with enough defensive integrity that they can, at the very least, make the conference finals. It remains to be seen if he can do that, but from here it seems he has a better chance than just about anyone else.

  22. #172
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    First off Kobe and Pau are avg defenders. Nash is below avg. while Artest and Dwight are above avg...

    Kobe grew up idolizing Dantoni and there's rumors he wore # 8 in honor of his childhood idol Dantoni.

    Getting rid of Bynum all but ensures Dantoni's success in LA. Shaq was the only other non-athletic big man who didn't succeed in Mike's system because he couldn't run and wasn't mobile enough. Dwight and Pau are mobile and athletic and can run the floor...they should thrive in his uptempo system just like Amare and Diaw. Also the new offense will open up the floor allowing for more consistency of perimeter shots.


    Good solid hire....Phil wasn't hired because the same turmoil that Mike Brown brought to the floor Phil was about to bring to the back office at a time when we don't need it. He basically wanted to overrule Mitch and Jimmy, coach mostly home games with a just few road games, get 10+ million a year, plus it seems he was trying to bring in Scottie Pippen for the sole purpose of helping Scottie who it seems has been having financial problems get paid. It seems to me Phil didn't really want the job. I think Jimmy played his cards right this time.
    Lol at this cognitive dissonance. If the Lakers hired Phil, your pussy would've gotten so wet, you'd have to go through about a dozen pair of panties everyday to soak up the leakage.

    This is in' great. Laker Nation had their s pointed at the sky ready to unleash another Hurricane the second Phil signed the dotted line. Now everything's gone limp, and the forecast is nothing but sunshine and clear skies ahead.

  23. #173
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    As long as it's:::

    Kobe: 5

    Tired old bag Duncan: 4





    I'm fine. Deal with it.


    seppe?

    nah, couldn't be

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    Hollinger is on point, as usual, tbh..

    Wherther you like D'Antoni or not, he's a massive upgrade over any of the other potential candidates for the Lakers job..

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    Trollinger chimes in:
    I typically agree with Trollinger, but this is an obvious attempt at damage control and generating hype for the NBA's flagship franchise's new "marquee" hire.

    "What D'Antoni did in Phoenix was historic."



    Now that D'Antoni is a part of the Laker family, history suddenly rewrites itself and D'Antoni is given majority credit for the success the Suns had during the Nash/Amare era. Never mind the fact that D'Antoni had the perfect storm of talent in Phoenix with which to implement his system. A deep roster filled with shooters and athletes, led by Steve Nash at his absolute peak. These Lakers resemble those Suns about as much as Koolaid_Man resembles a human being. No matter. The media has to gloss over the details in order to sell D'Antoni to all the slack-jawed s and uneasy Time Warner executives.

    The only remnant from the SSOL era we'll see in this Laker offense is a pale imitation of the Nash/Amare pick-and-roll between a now middle-aged, breaking down Steve Nash and a gorilla with a basketball IQ that's roughly the same number as the age of the guy who will be passing to him. Aside from that, expect the New York Knicks 2.0.

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