For as sad and tragic as this event is...I'm glad the shooter wasn't black or middle eastern....no telling where we'd be as a country if the shooter wasn't white...that being said this type of stuff happening is a direct result of white en lement...these white boys grow up with a en lement sense instilled in them by their white parents similar to how a lot of blacks grow up with victimization instilled in them by their parents...
white parents by and large don't discipline their kids, let them get away with all kinds of , and pretty much wink and nod at the notion of white privilege...that's why this keeps happening...some you may doubt what I' saying but just take Kool as an example...whether what I say is true or not most white people on this board scoff at the notion that Kool is a "financially independent" black guy (compliments of his parents) who is educated and is pretty much a playa and shot caller...it goes against the grain of white en lement...and perceived notions of black reality...but it nonetheless proves my point...
when it's a white teen involved we're quick to want to blame it on inherent mental illness and seeking to have them committed to a mental ins ution where they can be studied and get help...but had these been black teens in all the recent shootings...trust me white America would be asking for the electric chair, gas chambers, and firing squads...if it was a middle eastern teen we'd round up all arabs and put them in internment camps. Look at John Lee Malvo he was black teen that was coerced into mass shootings when he was like 14...I didn't hear white America blaming his actions on mental illness...nope the was like "Get me a ing rope"...
until white America stops coddling it's youth and enabling this type of en lement and encouraging time-outs and discussions with their kids as opposed to good old fashioned ass whippings this will continue...next time you see a little kid in a store and he's punching his mother or cursing her out tell the parents: "Your kid needs his ass whipped."
I finally brought myself to watch a couple of minutes of coverage today.
Mother was not a teacher at the school.
Mom had a bunch of guns that she apparently taught her kids how to use. That is where he got all the guns.
Police have a lead on a motive but that has not yet been revealed that I saw.
There are now reports that someone had some sort of altercation at the school on Thursday and that three of the staff involved are among those killed.
See man this what I am takin about. 20 babies were killed yesterday and here you go bringing up this dudes race like it means something. I grew up in a neighborhood which had predominantly African-Americans/ Puerto Ricans/Dominicans/ Jamaicans. As a kid I would hear gun shoots like all the ing time. I unfortunately got the opportunity witness the ones shooting guns. Stop bringing up religion and race in this topic. Crazy ass bas s come in all shapes, sizes and colors.
Background check, 3 month wait, license and continued education classes, resident and immediate family background check, 5 year medical records, and hair folicle drug test
These should be the minimum standards to buy a gun.
Don't know about the family background checks. Isn't that a little unamerican?
You don't need to know anything but you have an opinion on them = bag.
That's ok though, you have a lot of bag company.
BR called, wants his shtick back.
Guns are bad.
Won't be hard, he's unarmed. He'll call an armed policeman at the drop of a hat though.
mmmkay
Then someone does all that and someone else gets their gun and shoots you in the face.
Just make it easier to get guns and people who try stupid like this will be killed quicker
Why don't you intervene when the first "gun control" comment comes up instead of waiting for the other side? It's always so easy to tell which side of an issue someone stands on, because they go out of their way to avoid confronting those who stand on the same side yet vainly attempt to make their statements appear to be a neutral plea.
Go yourself.
Connecticut gun laws:
SUMMARY
The Connecticut Cons ution (Article First, § 15) gives every citizen the right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state. But state law regulates firearm sales, use, and possession.
For regulatory purposes, the law classifies “firearms” into four groups: handguns (pistols and revolvers), long guns (rifles and shotguns), assault weapons, and machine guns. The degree of regulation depends on the type of firearm and, in some cases, the type of transaction (i.e., dealer sales as opposed to secondary or nondealer sales).
With minor exceptions, (1) anyone buying or otherwise acquiring a handgun in Connecticut, whether from a licensed gun dealer or an unlicensed person, must have an eligibility certificate or a permit to sell or carry handguns, and (2) anyone carrying a handgun (except in one's home or business) must have a permit to carry handguns. The credentials allow unlimited gun purchases. No permit or certificate is required to possess handguns in one's home or business.
Permit and certificate applicants must pass state and national criminal history record checks and meet other criteria in law, including, in the case of a carry permit, being deemed suitable to get a permit. Ineligible applicants include convicted felons, illegal aliens, and anyone (1) under age 21; (2) under a court protective or restraining order for using, attempting, or threatening to use force against someone; or (3) discharged into the community in the preceding 20 years after having been found not guilty of a crime by reason of mental disease or defect.
No permit or certificate is required to buy, possess, or carry long guns. But people cannot possess them, if they (1) were ever convicted of a felony or serious juvenile offense, (2) cannot legally possess firearms under federal law because they have been adjudicated as “mental defectives” or have been committed to a mental ins ution, or (3) know they are under a firearms seizure or restraining or protective order for using or threatening to use violence against someone else. State law sets no minimum age for possessing long guns.
Assault weapons are illegal. People cannot legally buy them or (with one minor exception) bring them into Connecticut. But people who owned assault weapons before October 1, 1993 and registered them with the Department of Public Safety (DPS) before October 1, 1994 can keep them, and dispose of them, under prescribed cir stances.
Machine guns must be registered with DPS within 24 hours after a person acquires them and annually thereafter.
The law regulates (1) handgun sales and transfers by dealers and nondealers and (2) long gun sales and transfers by dealers. It does not regulate secondary sales or transfers of long guns (i.e, nondealer transactions) except to a limited extent at gun shows. Among other things, the law prohibits regulated persons from selling or transferring a covered firearm unless they get a firearm transfer authorization number from DPS, which must conduct a national instant criminal history record check on the buyer to determine if he or she can legally possess firearms.
The law, with exceptions, prohibits carrying (1) firearms on school property, (2) firearms on Connecticut General Assembly property, (3) loaded handguns in a vehicle, and (4) handguns where barred by law or a property owner.
The law imposes criminal penalties on people who (1) store loaded firearms in a way that gives a minor under age 16 unauthorized access to them and (2) transfer handguns to minors under age 21, except as authorized at firing or shooting ranges.
Under limited cir stances and following specified procedures, law enforcement officials may get warrants and seize firearms from anyone posing an imminent risk of harming himself or someone else and a court may order the firearms held for up to one year.
(it goes on)
Good thing everything was done legally.Investigators have linked Ms. Lanza to five weapons: two handguns, a semiautomatic rifle and two traditional hunting rifles. Her son took the two handguns and the semiautomatic rifle to the school. Law-enforcement officials said they believed the guns were acquired lawfully and registered.
okayyyy... Guns were purchased legally and some whackjob took em' and offed a bunch of innocent people. Let's go ahead and attack the 2nd amendment yet again. Makes perfect sense.
Mental health is the issue here, people. Not guns
I'm pretty sure the availability of weapons that can kill 20 people in a couple minutes is an issue here. By the way I don't see anything in the 2nd amendment about having the right to own such weapons. I guess we as a society should take advantage of vague statements made over 200 years ago.
amendment 2 is outdated just like the law that forbids immigrants to run for the president, is that what you liberals believe in? US cons ution doesn't mean to those liberals and that's why they're more than glad to see someone who's not a legit US citizen take the job as US president tbh
If you had an ounce of intellectual capacity you'd understand where I'm coming from....race is important in these cases...it could literally mean the difference between a guilty white kid simply going to the looney bin or an all out civil war if the perpetrator was black. In none of these cases have I heard...NOT once...not once have I heard white America advocate for the death penalty...
Sure I understand babies were killed but we live in the real world and we deal with the real...well at least I do...am I sad these babies and others were killed? Absolutely...but at the same time sympathy, sorrow, grief, words of solace, lowering flags, none of that will change a gotdam thing...
you want to show your care and concern then support gun reform..support changing the laws...
Kudos!!! You hit the nail on the head
since mental health is the issue then reforming gun laws in this country is now more imperative than ever....
I would gladly give up my AR15 to support my President
I'd be okay with that. I'm sure someone who has to go through a strenuous process like that isn't leaving their gun out on their coffee table or easily accessible.
Its not that I dont understand where your coming from. Its where your coming from is out of bounds right now. After a tragedy of this magnitude its classless to start preaching about "white en lement" and the "black struggle". There is a time and place for everything. This isn't the time to start preaching the stuff you were talking about. That's all I'm trying to say.
Kool, if you are truly concerned about gun control please by all means write your local congressman or run for office or some .
ohh I see you're one of the 10 Commandment sheeple...right and wrong? I'd agree with you if were talking about communicating directly with the victims families but that's not the case...I'm expressing an opinion that may not be in lock step with the school uniform crowd...just because you don't want your sensibilities offended only means to me you're sensitive...
just because you're afraid to discuss sensitive subjects at this time doesn't mean you care more about the victims....some of us are just more progressive / forward thinkers
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