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He is cherry picking.
1) DC is not a state
2) DC had some of the toughest gun control laws and the highest homicide rate with guns.
I take it then, to contend such facts, you know him personally?
He is cherry picking.
1) DC is not a state
2) DC had some of the toughest gun control laws and the highest homicide rate with guns.
Cool, I live a short drive from the Clackamas Town Center, and I didn't know that, but then haven't listened to any news for a few days either. I'll bet this guy would have fired if the shooter got his rifle unjammed.
Props to Nick.
From a local new source: Clackamas man, armed, confronts mall shooter
Looks like to me, the shooter probably would have kept killing people after he unjammed his rifle, if he didn't see someone else ready to take him out.
So Nick didn't stop any rampage...
That cannot be reasonable know. The shooter may not have taken his own life when he did. He may have continued on the rampage once he unjammed his AR15, had he not seen someone else aiming at him.
Exactly. scott asked for examples where rampages have been stopped. That's at best a poor example.
Look at it from the possible angles. Had the shooter continued, I'm reasonable sure this guy would have snipped him down. If such laws are implemented to take that away from us, then it makes that possibility impossible.
I'd have done the same. The kids are going to hear about it at school, I'd much rather have my kid hear about something like this from me first.
Nice! Happy birthday to yours too. I'm going to miss the two's. Really fun age.
I think this is the last straw. A second term president, overwhelming public outcry and opinion...
Private assault rifle ownership is gone. You want one, buy them now, still no guarantee you'll get to keep it when the law goes through.
They aren't going to TAKE them. I would say that there would be a ban with a lucrative buyback program.
I hope you are right. I had no intention of buying an AR15 this year...now, I do.
honest question: Why?
Does it have to do with your dystopian view of the future?
I personally just enjoy shooting the ar15. That is why I would get one. Plus if you have ever gone bore hunting in south texas, an ar15 is great!
I have not, so I fully admit that I am speaking from ignorance, but I have plenty of friends who go boar hunting in S. Texas and don't own assault rifles. They bring in a pretty good haul all the time. Heck, I really want to go with them (and go hunting in general), they guy who lets them hunt on his land pays them 50 bucks per to help clear some off his land. I want to go hunting for cheap meat, so for practical reasons. Either way, they do really well for themselves without assault rifles.
- why are you holding back tears....let them flow....
- If you play violent video games and support violent movies you're partly to blame for this....
- there is no so he's not burning...
seems to me the only ones committing mass crimes are the ones obtaining guns legally... ;-)
I really enjoy shooting semi-automatic assault rifles. No other tangible reason, really.
a) I can afford them, b) theyre legal to own and c) theyre a uva lot of fun kit up.
Its a hobby, nothing more. Dystopian future means nothing to me, although I will say out loud that it troubles me that in a country where your right to privacy is being bombarded by your government and large corporate data miners, the only people with the assault rifles would be law enforcement and the military. If civil unrest were to happen (extremely unlikely), the citizen NOT having assault rifles would be akin to the Colonists not owning muskets. The difference in sheer firepower with one side having assault rifles and the other having hunting rifles and handguns would be...one sided to say the least.
But ultimately, thats a philosophical viewpoint, not one rooted in current reality. Flippantly, I own property waaaaaay up north where I could shoot short range artillery if I were certified and trained to do so (yes, you can get certified to own and operate privately). Assault rifles are just a whooooole lot of fun to operate.
Regardless of the gun control legislation; and assuming there will be no discussion of arming at least a single person at a school, schools need to develop a different strategy for when these guys actually get loose in there building. Having all the children be quiet and hide in a corner, or under their desks just makes it easy on the crazy. He KNOWS where they are, what they are doing, and then just goes about his business.
Shooting, for instance, doves or ducks is easy when they are on the ground, in a tree, or water. In fact, bagged my limit of doves one day when I caught a flock eating seed in a field - with one shot (boring day, tbh). When they fly, however, it makes the job much tougher; birds going everywhere, not easy to hit one, much less get off a fatal shot.
Don't know if this is at all practical, or if kids would do it, but if they were taught to, on a signal, run en mass toward the gunman - he would, first, have to think fast (if he wants to off himself, better get on with it; 400 screaming elementary school kids are going to be on you in less than 3 seconds) - at the very least he won't get to put the gun a few inches from a skull an sqeeze! He certainly wouldn't kill 27.
Just a thought (I have two in school now; have told them, whatever you do; don't just sit there and get shot.)
Honestly, debating gun control legislation should come later - on its merits; doing that, and thinking you've solved any problems in the near term is naive; too many guns already in the system - EVEN if you confiscated; WAY too many guns to hope to keep them out of the crazies hands for at least a few decades.
Violent video games have nothing to do with anything. Violence in media has nothing to do with anything. I dont know why people do what they do, but if I had to guess, the trend was set by Columbine. The US isnt the only place in the world where assholes attack defenseless children, but it is one of the only countries that a mass murderer can acquire the weapons to exponentially increase their lethality and body count.
Its a conundrum, IMO. But listening to the news, radio, TV and newspapers, even sports radio where you get a ton of callers (general public), in a place like Michigan where gun rights mean something, the writing is on the wall. Assault rifles in the hands of private citizens will be a thing of the past very soon. Just an opinion.
Yeah some places are so overpopulated that you shooting them for the count. I've never hunted the boar to eat. Just to help friends get them off their land. But about the weapon. It's just a great rifle. Not much kick at all. Pretty much the same as a .22.
Buying an auto legally and carrying it legally would set you back atleast $1500.
with all due respect...you're delusional if you think violent video games has nothing to do with it...it's not THE reason but it's part of the problem...just like gangsta rap music is part of the BIG problem for the young black youth...just admit it...we're all hypocrites when it comes to like this..I listen to gangsta rap music but I know it's bad for youth in general...I watch violent movies and I also know that it can have an effect on how kids perceive reality...I've slept with married women and I know that's wrong too....I'm a hypocrite in fact we ALL are...I can just admit it....music, movies, games they all play a significant part...and then some people are just bad people...I don't give a that these recent shooters had so called "mental issues"...mental health is never a problem when the criminal is a minority...
we need gun control along with severe violation penalties along with increased security
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