You Can Relax Now, the Fiscal Cliff Has Been Bridged

[DMC]

you should have said that instead of using such clumsy, misleading figurative language.

If you weren't in "nuh uh" mode, you''d likely have gotten it the first time.

[DMC]

btw, your thread le is misleading, too. the debt ceiling and sequestration come up again within a couple of months, so it's not strictly true to say "the cliff has been bridged," whatever that means.

(another crappy metaphor, tbh.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...b501_blog.html

Bridging the ‘fiscal cliff’ gap over spending





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rock/fiscal-cliff-brain-science_b_2136054.html

Bridge the Fiscal Cliff Through Brain Science


Must be some I made up.



I could go on but by now you get the idea, hopefully.


Regardless it was satirical, probably lost on you.

[EVAY]

Can anyone explain to me why Republicans don't just declare victory with this Fiscal Cliff vote and shut up? I mean, they got 98% of the Bush tax cuts, which were responsible for between $1T and $2T contribution to the debt load over the last decade made PERMANENT?

Isn't that what their mantra is always? "The way to grow the economy is to reduce taxes". "What we need to do is reduce taxes to put more money into people's hands". etc. etc. etc.

So having gotten POTUS and the Democrats to make the Bush tax cuts permanent for everyone under $400-450K per year, isn't that success? They even kept the Estate tax essentially the same.

I honesty don't get why they aren't happy. It's not as though they won't get a chance to hack spending in the next few months.

[ElNono]

I was going to ask where does this thing leaves Norquist, but I guess I just don't care that much.

[EVAY]

^^^He claimed last night on TV that he was happy about it. It is another reason why I am so puzzled about why more Republicans are claiming victory.

I can hardly believe that they have let this POTUS claim the mantle of 'tax-cutter away from them...but so it seems.

[CosmicCowboy]

Can anyone explain to me why Republicans don't just declare victory with this Fiscal Cliff vote and shut up? I mean, they got 98% of the Bush tax cuts, which were responsible for between $1T and $2T contribution to the debt load over the last decade made PERMANENT?

Isn't that what their mantra is always? "The way to grow the economy is to reduce taxes". "What we need to do is reduce taxes to put more money into people's hands". etc. etc. etc.

So having gotten POTUS and the Democrats to make the Bush tax cuts permanent for everyone under $400-450K per year, isn't that success? They even kept the Estate tax essentially the same.

I honesty don't get why they aren't happy. It's not as though they won't get a chance to hack spending in the next few months.

I don't think it's the Republicans who are declaring defeat as much as Obama and the democrats and their media minions declaring victory. You get it. Republicans scored big by getting those tax cuts made "permanent" (obviously nothing is permanent in Washington) while only putting sequestration off for two months. That means that they can say they gave Obama what he wanted (tax hikes on the rich) and now it's time for him to get serious about reducing expenditures before the across the board cuts hit in two months.

[EVAY]

I don't think it's the Republicans who are declaring defeat as much as Obama and the democrats and their media minions declaring victory. You get it. Republicans scored big by getting those tax cuts made "permanent" (obviously nothing is permanent in Washington) while only putting sequestration off for two months. That means that they can say they gave Obama what he wanted (tax hikes on the rich) and now it's time for him to get serious about reducing expenditures before the across the board cuts hit in two months.

Well, that is exactly how I read it. In my opinion, the only thing that would have been better for them would have been to pass the Plan B bill, which I actually thought was pretty brilliant on Boehner's part (the bill was brilliant - not the rejection of it). And then his caucus blows the whole thing up. I really don't get some of those guys. Oh, let's be real. I don't get almost any of those guys.

[Th'Pusher]

I don't think it's the Republicans who are declaring defeat as much as Obama and the democrats and their media minions declaring victory. You get it. Republicans scored big by getting those tax cuts made "permanent" (obviously nothing is permanent in Washington) while only putting sequestration off for two months. That means that they can say they gave Obama what he wanted (tax hikes on the rich) and now it's time for him to get serious about reducing expenditures before the across the board cuts hit in two months.

The sequestration is particularly tough on defense. Medicare and Medicaid benefits are Exempt. Republicans really have no leverage there either. What they do have is the debt ceiling. They will use the full faith and credit of the US as a bargaining chip to get additional cuts because it's all they have and they are, by an large, a bunch of irresponsible morons.

[Th'Pusher]

Well, that is exactly how I read it. In my opinion, the only thing that would have been better for them would have been to pass the Plan B bill, which I actually thought was pretty brilliant on Boehner's part (the bill was brilliant - not the rejection of it). And then his caucus blows the whole thing up. I really don't get some of those guys. Oh, let's be real. I don't get almost any of those guys.

Just wait till the economy goes in the ter now that we're taxing all those job creators...

[EVAY]

Just wait till the economy goes in the ter now that we're taxing all those job creators...

yeah, right.

[CosmicCowboy]

Just wait till the economy goes in the ter now that we're taxing all those job creators...

good point....

[CosmicCowboy]

We are just damn lucky to live in Texas. Oil and natural gas will drive the out of our economy for the next 20 years+ even if those ing liberal yankee states go to .

[ElNono]

We are just damn lucky to live in Texas. Oil and natural gas will drive the out of our economy for the next 20 years+ even if those ing liberal yankee states go to .

Yankee states will probably make 4x as much money by trading futures on those oil contracts, tbh. Now, if you're Mississippi, you're probably screwed.

[EVAY]

Yankee states will probably make 4x as much money by trading futures on those oil contracts, tbh. Now, if you're Mississippi, you're probably screwed.

Yeah, but Mississippi natives have been screwed forever. All of the people in all of the other southeastern states start their daily prayers with "Thank you god, that I was not born in and do not now live in Mississippi". , most of us should start our days with that prayer.

[DMC]

Yankee states will probably make 4x as much money by trading futures on those oil contracts, tbh. Now, if you're Mississippi, you're probably screwed.

I don't think their food stamps tax will go up.

[spursncowboys]

Yeah, but Mississippi natives have been screwed forever. All of the people in all of the other southeastern states start their daily prayers with "Thank you god, that I was not born in and do not now live in Mississippi". , most of us should start our days with that prayer.

Welcome to Arkansas: Our state motto: Thank God For Mississippi!

[ElNono]

I don't think their food stamps tax will go up.

whose?

[EVAY]

Welcome to Arkansas: Our state motto: Thank God For Mississippi!

I heard the same thing in Alabama and Louisiana!

[Stringer_Bell]

nah, I ain't gonna relax. My check was short over this bull . Sure, it wasn't enough to put me in the poor house...but I'm sick and tired of Obama taking my money and just giving it away to welfare mommas and dope-fiend daddies. It's pitifulll!!

On a more serious note, I heard yesterday that after the Democrat controlled Senate compromised on taxing ONLY the 400,000-450,000+ people which lowered the 1Trill revenue amount to 600b or so, THEN the Republican controlled House said "Nah, , we ain't gonna pass that til we put our own stamp on it" and delayed passing the bill until they made sure there was an additional 15b in budget cuts or whatever. IS THAT ING TRUE?!?!? If so, lol demopussies and hooray fur my Tea Party friends that actually managed to get something done.

[Winehole23]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...b501_blog.html

Bridging the ‘fiscal cliff’ gap over spending





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rock/fiscal-cliff-brain-science_b_2136054.html

Bridge the Fiscal Cliff Through Brain Science


Must be some I made up.



I could go on but by now you get the idea, hopefully.


Regardless it was satirical, probably lost on you.

So then, you were being a copycat, or being satirical? Which is it? Can't be both.

[Winehole23]

blank satire?

[Winehole23]

you keep shifting the goal posts. CYA for lazy generalizations?

[Wild Cobra]

[QUOTE=Stringer_Bell]
nah, I ain't gonna relax. My check was short over this bull . Sure, it wasn't enough to put me in the poor house...but I'm sick and tired of Obama taking my money and just giving it away to welfare mommas and dope-fiend daddies. It's pitifulll!!
[QUOTE]
Yep, my check is short too. Not sure exactly how much since I took a day off, and worked Xmas, but I figure it's going to be a notable drop in pay. I can deal with it, I was preparing myself to go back into the "tween" area of the 28% and 31% marginal rates as well. As it stands, I will stay in the 25% marginal rate and see the 28% rate on overtime checks.

I was really hoping the SS insurance would increase to about 7%, but also go there slowly. Maybe each quarter increase by 0.2%. 4.4% first quarter, 4.6% 2nds, 4.7%, 5% by the end of the year, and so on. This sudden 6.2% will be a budget shock to quite a few families.

On a more serious note, I heard yesterday that after the Democrat controlled Senate compromised on taxing ONLY the 400,000-450,000+ people which lowered the 1Trill revenue amount to 600b or so, THEN the Republican controlled House said "Nah, , we ain't gonna pass that til we put our own stamp on it" and delayed passing the bill until they made sure there was an additional 15b in budget cuts or whatever. IS THAT ING TRUE?!?!? If so, lol demopussies and hooray fur my Tea Party friends that actually managed to get something done.

I hope the Tea party types held out for more spending cuts. That said, I'm very, very disappointed that the unemployment insurance compensation is being extended for so long. Historically, every time we had a recovery, it was after they ended the unemployment extensions.

I myself was guilty of being comfortable with the unemployment at one time. Collecting max compensation, and not having any car payments, credit card payments, etc. I was able to live quite comfortable on it. I know I can't be the only one guilty of taking advantage of the system. It was a nice vacation from work, for over a year for me.

[Winehole23]

I'm very, very disappointed that the unemployment insurance compensation is being extended for so long. Historically, every time we had a recovery, it was after they ended the unemployment extensions.

I'm from Missouri. Show me.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm from Missouri. Show me.

I can't believe anyone like you, interested in politics, hasn't noted the trend.

I'm sure I could find the info if I wanted, but I don't feel like it. If you think I'm wrong, I'll just challenge you to find the comparative timelines yourself.