Cousins-lovers are not true Spurs fans

[sananspursfan21]

i'm a grey and i don't want to see him here. reminds me it's about time my name's bolded...

[Chinook]

Actually, Jack has only gotten in trouble defending teammates. His run-ins with the law have been minor.

But I agree, Jack is regarded as a great teammate. Cousins is a horrible teammate; if you watch a Kings game, you'll lose count if you try to count how many times his teammates roll their eyes at him. They don't even hide how much they can't stand him.






Ruffy is right, no way in the Spurs take on Cousins. I don't care the trade particulars blah blah whatever ... Would. Never. Happen.

Thanks for the clarification. That strengthens the point about Jack's character compared to that of Cousins. A player like Jack can be taught discipline because his heart is in the right place. He just needs guidance. Cousins needs an epiphany, which may never come. Until then, he's much more trouble than he's worth. He's not good enough to be a star while also being antagonistic toward his teammates.

[100%duncan]

He messed up with Sean. But even if that didn't happen, him tbh.

[Boomersgold]

I agree with this 100%.

Guys like Perkins and Cousins would ruin the team camaraderie that we have now. Sure, we could use their talents, but their at ude problems and lack of respect for their teammates would hurt us in the long run.

[baseline bum]

You can't even compare Cousins and Rodman. Rodman was a hall of fame talent who had actually produced for years when the Spurs traded for him. Cousins is just the baggage without the work ethic and skill.

[Leetonidas]

A guy who has turned his life around, and who has never caused any trouble as a Spur during either stay.

The difference between Jax and DMM-C is that Jax listens to Tim and Pop - you think DMM-C will do the same? I doubt it. He sees himself as the main man, while Jax has always known he's a complimentary player on a team like the Spurs.

I'm just saying, it's undeniable that everywhere Jack has been he has been a headcase for the most part. He charged into stands and beat fans up and fired shots outside of a strip club (I know the cir stances, just saying). My point is that he had character issues that the Spurs were able to manage. Who is to say Cousins couldn't be the same way? It can't help his development being part of such a toxic franchise with ty owners and no smart management. He is the main man, dude is probably the most naturally talented big we have seen in a long time. He needs a coach that he can respect and veterans that will hold him accountable and teach him. He's not going to ever get that in Sac.

[Stalin]

i think fatass cousins would make an excllent addition to the spurs family, give him a chance scros

[TrainOfThought5]

people are bagging on Gnsf... for what? trying not to languish in lottery mode for ten years. or worse. JazzRocket mediocrity. of course we're willing to take these risks. we're spoiled and and want a consistent contender out of a small market franchise. we dont want TD to be the last bastion of Larry O' memories.

i guess we're not as ready to quietly fade into the night as pick up where we left off Pre Duncan/Robinson as some of you, and thats understandable. and for the record i dont see myself as a "Cousins lover" (sounds like Alabama :-P ) i consider myself a Spurs diehard whose willing to take substantial risks to keep us at the top.

i look at the trailblazers and their cursed luck for a decade, the Bulls slide back into the abyss post Jordan for a decade... and say "that could be us." so yes. im not ashamed to to say those ty franchises, and thier downtrodden fanbase and i never wanna be like them.... its every team for themselves. because mediocrity doesnt discriminate between whose character is good and bad, if that was the case Lakers would have stayed ty when shaq left. we dont have the resources of the Lakers so we damn sure better be able to outsmart them. and out maneuver them.

the rest of you can keep looking at this year and pining for an agressive Diaw, or a consistent Green, or a superstar Kawhi, or Tony Parker to magically elevate his game when it matters most. but those things wont happen. not this year. and not before TD leaves. so what then? what brilliant solution do you have? because id rather die great with mega cancer Cousins than live forever at the bottom like Sunfan and soon to be Mavfan.

[exstatic]

What's not to like about a center who shoots 42%?

[exstatic]

The Cousins thing is simple - if you can get him cheap it's a risk you take all day every day (cheap = not giving up TP, TD, Manu, Kawhi, Splitter)

Of course I also said from day one the Kings aren't serious about dealing him, at least not yet, and that some other team would be willing to give up more than the Spurs will

They'll deal him before the deadline. He just fired his agent and hired Dwight Howard's. Dwightmare II, tbh, if he doesn't get out of there.

[exstatic]

People want him for the talent, obviously. And if there is any team who would be able to turn Cousins' at ude around it would be the Spurs. Besides, Cousins should straighten up after getting suspended a few more times.

What on earth makes you say that? He's shown NO signs of mending his ways. He issues a standard boilerplate apology, and continues to do whatever the he wants.

I think the Cousins thing boils down to one question: can someone SO self absorbed be truly reformed? I would guess that most of the YES crowd are younger. I personally have watched scores of athletes waste and destroy their careers over the decades. It makes absolutely no sense, but then again, neither do people.

I don't believe people ever fundamentally change who they are, and that's a hard concept for the young to wrap their heads around. They WANT to believe in redemption, mostly because they may not be all that happy with who they are, and need to believe in that "get out of jail free" card down the line.

[exstatic]

I'm just saying, it's undeniable that everywhere Jack has been he has been a headcase for the most part. He charged into stands and beat fans up and fired shots outside of a strip club (I know the cir stances, just saying). My point is that he had character issues that the Spurs were able to manage. Who is to say Cousins couldn't be the same way? It can't help his development being part of such a toxic franchise with ty owners and no smart management. He is the main man, dude is probably the most naturally talented big we have seen in a long time. He needs a coach that he can respect and veterans that will hold him accountable and teach him. He's not going to ever get that in Sac.

Jack is a knuckle head who actually cares, probably too much, about his team mates. Cousins doesn't give a about anybody but Cousins.

[exstatic]

people are bagging on Gnsf... for what? trying not to languish in lottery mode for ten years. or worse. JazzRocket mediocrity. of course we're willing to take these risks. we're spoiled and and want a consistent contender out of a small market franchise. we dont want TD to be the last bastion of Larry O' memories.

i guess we're not as ready to quietly fade into the night as pick up where we left off Pre Duncan/Robinson as some of you, and thats understandable. and for the record i dont see myself as a "Cousins lover" (sounds like Alabama :-P ) i consider myself a Spurs diehard whose willing to take substantial risks to keep us at the top.

i look at the trailblazers and their cursed luck for a decade, the Bulls slide back into the abyss post Jordan for a decade... and say "that could be us." so yes. im not ashamed to to say those ty franchises, and thier downtrodden fanbase and i never wanna be like them.... its every team for themselves. because mediocrity doesnt discriminate between whose character is good and bad, if that was the case Lakers would have stayed ty when shaq left. we dont have the resources of the Lakers so we damn sure better be able to outsmart them. and out maneuver them.

the rest of you can keep looking at this year and pining for an agressive Diaw, or a consistent Green, or a superstar Kawhi, or Tony Parker to magically elevate his game when it matters most. but those things wont happen. not this year. and not before TD leaves. so what then? what brilliant solution do you have? because id rather die great with mega cancer Cousins than live forever at the bottom like Sunfan and soon to be Mavfan.

OKC is the one to note on rebuilding. They went from to the playoffs in 3 years, and to the Finals in five, and their GM came from here. DeMarcus Cousins never gets you there. He's not on any team, he's on the DMC train.

[will_spurs]

It will be the day when the Spurs go after the Kings' sloppy seconds.

[DapDaGenius]

What on earth makes you say that? He's shown NO signs of mending his ways. He issues a standard boilerplate apology, and continues to do whatever the he wants.

I think the Cousins thing boils down to one question: can someone SO self absorbed be truly reformed? I would guess that most of the YES crowd are younger. I personally have watched scores of athletes waste and destroy their careers over the decades. It makes absolutely no sense, but then again, neither do people.

I don't believe people ever fundamentally change who they are, and that's a hard concept for the young to wrap their heads around. They WANT to believe in redemption, mostly because they may not be all that happy with who they are, and need to believe in that "get out of jail free" card down the line.

All of that talking, for absolutely nothing. Ugh...how about this...it was a damn joke.

"I don't believe people ever fundamentally change who they are"

Ever? LMFAO that's a bit far...too far actually. There have been far too many people who have fundamentally changed themselves for "better" or for "worse".

You are saying the younger crowd says "yes" about Cousins, you are saying "no". The real answer is...nobody knows. We don't know everything that goes on in his life(of course not) and we don't know what he thinks(of course not). So it's best to not just throw the guy out the window on this.

[JonNOKC]

They'll deal him before the deadline. He just fired his agent and hired Dwight Howard's. Dwightmare II, tbh, if he doesn't get out of there.

You are right I should of clarified my statement by saying they are not to the point of being willing to move him for spare parts, which makes any discussion of Counsins to the Spurs worthless AND even if they get to that point there are other teams willing to pay more than the Spurs so it really doesn't matter

[exstatic]

All of that talking, for absolutely nothing. Ugh...how about this...it was a damn joke.

"I don't believe people ever fundamentally change who they are"

Ever? LMFAO that's a bit far...too far actually. There have been far too many people who have fundamentally changed themselves for "better" or for "worse".

You are saying the younger crowd says "yes" about Cousins, you are saying "no". The real answer is...nobody knows. We don't know everything that goes on in his life(of course not) and we don't know what he thinks(of course not). So it's best to not just throw the guy out the window on this.

If you want to see who someone is, watch what they do. They are exactly that. His apologies are BS because he keeps doing the same .

If the talk differs from the actions, always judge by the actions. That's "what they're thinking".

[DapDaGenius]

If you want to see who someone is, watch what they do. They are exactly that. His apologies are BS because he keeps doing the same .

If the talk differs from the actions, always judge by the actions. That's "what they're thinking".

We still don't know exactly what the guy is thinking. You can't judge someone's reasoning by action. Are his apologizes just there to try to cover his hide? Sure. I've never denied this, and wonder, why the you keep mentioning it.

You're really making this situation with him way more serious than it is. Will he change as a person? Maybe, maybe not. Is it impossible for him to reform himself? no.

You're arguing something to me, that I was never arguing in the first place(And certain things that I agree on...which makes this even more pointless)...continue if you want to just berate Cousins, but I'm done here.

[rascal]

Rasheed Wallace was considered a malcontent and had a bad reputation. Detroit took a chance with him and won a le.

[rascal]

Rasheed Wallace was considered a malcontent and had a bad reputation. Detroit took a chance with him and won a le.

Cousins could be just the type of player that pushes the Spurs over the top. I don't care about personalities, I want to see an up grade in the talent level especially if it is on the frontline.

[024]

rofl spurs fans. we only want classy players on our team

[Jumi]

rofl spurs fans. we only want classy players on our team

This!
If there was a way to get Cousins, do it!!!

[Libri]

Rasheed Wallace was considered a malcontent and had a bad reputation. Detroit took a chance with him and won a le.

Actually he only had a bad reputation against the referees. He was known around the league as an excellent teammate.

[ffadicted]

*slow clap*

Kid is cancer. It's not nobody in spurstalk is watching what's happening with the lakers. You don't win championships without chemistry.

[Leetonidas]

lol at you guys thinking a 22 year old is going to be how he is now forever, not to mention speaking as if you personally know him and everything in his mind