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    Thinking that McGee would be smart enough to play next to Tim and not kill the offense
    Man I'm not even joking, his wing span/shot blocking would make us so much better defensively, he might actually bother Ibaka you know... Also on O when playing with Tim, Splitter mostly stand next to the rim while Duncan shoots jumpers, it's not really rocket science...

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    Man I('m not even joking, his wing span/ shot blocking would make us so much better defensively, he might actually bother Ibaka you know... Also on O, Splitter mostly stand next to the rim while Duncan shoots jumpers, it's not really rocket science...
    So why Blair/Timmy didn't work?

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    8-10 Millions is about what McGee or Ilysova got, both of them would be 100 times better next to Tim...
    Not that I agree with the substance of this statement, but when did the Spurs have the chance to sign either of those two players?

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    So why Blair/Timmy didn't work?
    Now Blair is shot, in the past it worked very well vs the Thunder if you remember correctly and Blair is not half the rebounder/defender McGee is. I'd agree you'd have to start Manu to add some playmaking since Tiago is a better passer, but I'd start him even with our current bigs...

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    You are crazy, 8-10 mil for 10points/5 rebs?
    Asik was 3pts/5 rebs, Would you have not given him the contract Houston gave him?

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    Now Blair is shot, in the past it worked very well vs the Thunder if you remember correctly and Blair is not half the rebounder/defender McGee is. I'd agree you'd have to start Manu to add some playmaking since Tiago is a better passer, but I'd start him even with our current bigs...
    Idk, Mcgee is inconsistent, not very clever and i don't think he is worth of his contract...I would take D.West...

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    Idk, Mcgee is inconsistent, not very clever and i don't he is worth of his contract... But i would take D.West...
    David West would be excellent on our team. Hopefully we can resign Splitter AND sign West

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    You are crazy, 8-10 mil for 10points/5 rebs?
    Asik averaged what last year? What did DeAndre Jordan average before he got paid $10M/yr? Likewise for McGee, Nene, and so on. If you're big and show some skill or even the promise of some skill you get paid. , Kwame Brown got a second fat contract even after everyone knew he was a bust.

    Despite the weird-looking hook shot, Splitter is an incredibly efficient player on both ends of the court and is entering his prime years with NBA experience. I expect him to get offers around $10M a year and if the Spurs think he can be a good player alongside Duncan as well as independent of him, he'll get the same from them.

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    Asik was 3pts/5 rebs, Would you have not given him the contract Houston gave him?
    But Asik was underplayed in Chicago, great defensive player, always healthy, but yeah, i wouldn't make that kind of gamble...

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    Asik averaged what last year? What did DeAndre Jordan average before he got paid $10M/yr? Likewise for McGee, Nene, and so on. If you're big and show some skill or even the promise of some skill you get paid. , Kwame Brown got a second fat contract even after everyone knew he was a bust. Despite the weird-looking hook shot, Splitter is an incredibly efficient player on both ends of the court and is entering his prime years with NBA experience. I expect him to get offers around $10M a year and if the Spurs think he can be a good player alongside Duncan as well as independent of him, he'll get the same from them.
    Then they shoud trade him now or sign and trade him in the off season.

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    peepee, Splitter is showing to be pretty good at chasing the Ryan Anderson types around the perimeter. His awareness will help him more than a McGee who more or less charges at shots from the weakside. Bigs charging at penetration is how Ibaka gets open jumpers in the first place.

    And the Spurs run a motion offense. You know a guard will hand the ball off run towards the baseline and back through a couple of screens set by multiple guys, get the ball back on the other side and run a high pick and roll. Do this over and again with a sprinkling of called pays. You know: Spurs basketball. Splitter doesn't just stand there like he did last year and he is still getting better at it. He has not been seeing the court with the starters for a month yet.

    If there is one thing that Tiago excels at it is the pnr game. Both offensively and defensively. He guards the pnr better than Duncan and lightyears ahead of the turd towers. He is great at zoning it up and shielding the rim. He uses his size and mobility and just rides the play away from the bucket. He doesn't foul a lot doing it.

    Considering how his shot transformation has taken place on the stripe its not a huge leap to think that he can hit a 10-15 footer if he puts in work like he has so far. His main issues are his small hands which give him ball control issues and at-best average core and upper body strength. Reps with the new shot will definitely pay dividends but he cannot do anything about his hands and he may have plateaued strength wise.

    That being said, there is a huge void in big man talent in the NBA as evidenced with you promoting Javele McGee as a desirable replacement.

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    Then they shoud trade him now or sign and trade him in the off season.
    Trading him now makes no sense because he's clearly being integrated with Timmy and is the only productive big outside of Duncan. They're playing too well to shake it up by dealing a major piece.

    And while a sign-and-trade is possible, it takes a bunch of factors to make it happen...team over cap, Splitter wanting to sign there, and assets the Spurs want in return. I actually think there will be more teams out there with cap space looking for centers than there will be quality centers. But, a sign-and-trade could happen.

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    this team is being realistic. we are only going to be truly compe ive while tim is around (unless something magical falls into our lap)... so they are going to do what it takes to win now. we've been hearing about the "closing window" for years now, and the window is over when tim is gone

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    Splitter is too tall. This is why he must go. We need someone who is 6'9" or under.

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    peepee, Splitter is showing to be pretty good at chasing the Ryan Anderson types around the perimeter.
    As evidenced by him getting torched by Ibaka from the perimeter?
    His awareness will help him more than a McGee who more or less charges at shots from the weakside. Bigs charging at penetration is how Ibaka gets open jumpers in the first place.
    McGee would offer rim protection, quicker/more efficent close out on stretch PF and better rebounding.
    And the Spurs run a motion offense. You know a guard will hand the ball off run towards the baseline and back through a couple of screens set by multiple guys, get the ball back on the other side and run a high pick and roll. Do this over and again with a sprinkling of called pays. You know: Spurs basketball. Splitter doesn't just stand there like he did last year and he is still getting better at it. He has not been seeing the court with the starters for a month yet.
    Splitter doesn't get any play called for him with Tim on the floor, so really his offensive skills don't matter that much, especially since he has no range and is not a good rebounder, thus can't help that much playing off the ball.
    If there is one thing that Tiago excels at it is the pnr game. Both offensively and defensively. He guards the pnr better than Duncan and lightyears ahead of the turd towers. He is great at zoning it up and shielding the rim. He uses his size and mobility and just rides the play away from the bucket. He doesn't foul a lot doing it.
    Offensively yes, defensively he's average, Tim just doesn't have the mobility to be good at it anymore.
    Considering how his shot transformation has taken place on the stripe its not a huge leap to think that he can hit a 10-15 footer if he puts in work like he has so far. His main issues are his small hands which give him ball control issues and at-best average core and upper body strength. Reps with the new shot will definitely pay dividends but he cannot do anything about his hands and he may have plateaued strength wise.
    28 years old who got hacked last year if gonna develop a reliable jumper... Don't see it, his FT form doesn't inspire confidence..
    That being said, there is a huge void in big man talent in the NBA as evidenced with you promoting Javele McGee as a desirable replacement.
    McGee has the potential to be very good and even great in the precise role he would have with the Spurs.

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    Splitter is too tall. This is why he must go. We need someone who is 6'9" or under.
    I'm also very concerned that he's making way too many of his freethrows lately.

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    I'm also very concerned that he's making way too many of his freethrows lately.
    Additionally, it is worrying that he is developing a better chemistry with Tim.

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    Surprisingly Duncan is showing he's worth more than his contract this season. He's having a career season.
    Actually, that's not surprising at all, seeing as how he was worth significantly more even before this season started. He only took a number that "low" (relatively speaking, of course) in order to essentially bring back the entire team, while adding De Colo and avoiding the tax. In other words, he did Holt a favor.

    I don't think it really matters what Asik got, what Pekovic will get or what any other comparable center has gotten recently. It's clear that, on this team, even with their upcoming financial flexibility, he will not max out . . . and I'm confident that he'll not only understand that before negotiations even commence, but he'll be fine with it, too. I expect him to re-sign for 4 years/$26-30M.

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    Even at $30m/4yr that would only require starting him at $6.6m on a backloaded contract. Would be fantastic for our chances of signing someone in free agency. At $26/4, that equates to around a starting salary of $5.9m

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    Splitter doesnt finish well around the rim?

    He may not slam it on guys but the golden god is one of the best finishing bigman in the league. Those lay-ups he finishes of the pick and roll may look easy, but not many centers have that ability tbh.

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    According to Pop, Splitter is "every coach’s dream":
    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/0...s-timmy-a-lot/
    Last edited by biskvito; 01-07-2013 at 05:03 AM.

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    I can't imagine anyone ever wanting to leave the Spurs. Tiago probably feels more at home here, contributing to that would be the international style and players in the team.

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    his chasing asik money, or spurs going to low ball him with a rasho like deal

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    I don't see the Spurs low-balling him and I don't think Tiago Claus will get any huge offers.

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    Spurs are in a really comfortable situation to re-sign Splitter. They are in a great shape salary cape wise and Splitter will be a restricted free agent. I'm no saying it's a given Spurs will re-sign him but they are clearly in the driver's seat.

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