Stupid imperial units... doesn't mix well with the decimal system. There are 12 inches in a foot, this is what threw you off.
Seems like a nice signing. At least he's big, and he can't be much worse than our end of rotation bigs. I do hope he gets tested this year already. And if he was really earning $70k a year in Slovenia then it's the jackpot for him, even though he's cheap by NBA standards.
He wasn't Euroleague MVP. Was the best rebounder and lead the league in double doubles in the first round of games.
Baynes always wore his Aussie shoes so I'm sure he will bring them to San AntonioHopefully it is in the contract that him and Patty have to wear the Aussie Highlighter Green shoes at least 1 game of the season:
Pretty good, yes.
BTW, anyone noticed that his last follow on twitter was spurs?
Interesting. Anybody see this from McDonald over at the Express News?
JMcDonald_SAEN
Spurs' interest in Boomers' Aron Baynes is real, but he has not signed yet. Due to standard FIBA red tape, could be a while before he does about. 1 hour ago
JMcDonald_SAEN
As baseline, remember how long it was between Patty Mills' "signing" last season and the time he actually took floor for Spurs. about 1 hour ago
Here's another little tid bit:
Baynes not signed, but could be
"According to multiple international reports, including this one at Talkbasket.net, the Spurs have paid a $400,000 buyout to Baynes’ team in Slovenia with designs on the bringing him over this season. Due to the usual FIBA red tape, however, it could be days, if not weeks, before he’s permitted to sign his reported multi-year deal in the U.S....
To continue reading, click the link: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...-but-could-be/
James White!
Seriously, it seems bizarre that the Spurs actually signed a real C. Someone mentioned insurance against Spitter and I tend to think that, too. But I like surprises.
Who's not suiting up right now - Blair? Because with Baynes, that would bring the roster to 14, not counting Cory Joseph up in Austin.
Wow, this is like when the Pistons traded for Sheed back in '04.
2013 Championship here we come!
But seriously, anyone the Spurs can add to the team who is over 6'9is a plus for me
How old is he? I'm happy - a legit big man - anything that means no more Bonner or Blair.
He probably won't do anything but a bit more height can't hurt.
A two-year deal mkes much more sense to me. I wish he would have been locked up for four, though.
It seems to be for 3 or 4 years with team options. Two years being guaranteed. He would be locked for 4 years if the reports are true.
I have no idea if he is good, but they must see something in him...
The Rose for Nazr trade comparison works better tbh.Wow, this is like when the Pistons traded for Sheed back in '04.
2013 Championship here we come!
But seriously, anyone the Spurs can add to the team who is over 6'9is a plus for me
Ummm, your information is a bit off. Lets correct it.
1) Anderson is not a rookie. He was in his 3rd year when he signed that contract with Houston. Hence, not an example of a commonplace "rookie signing a long-term minimum contract mid-season"
2) Green was not a rookie when he signed with the Spurs. He was drafted and played a full season with the Cavaliers and was cut (out of training camp) going into his second season. In addition, he didn't sign a long-term contract when he did sign with the Spurs (it was for the remainder of the season with a non-guaranteed second year).
3) It is not uncommon for "scrap heap players" (be them rookies, or discarded players like Anderson or Green) to a two year deal, with the second year being fully non-guaranteed. This was likely the case with Da'Sean Butler and Malcolm Thomas. Of course, the first year is also non-guaranteed, meaning they can be cut early in the season without any serious issue. This was also the case with Derrick Byars, whom the Spurs signed last year, carried into TC, and cut.
4) Better examples of unusual signings are as follows:
DeJuan Blair: Draft pick signing a four year deal with a lot of guaranteed money on the front end, a lot of non-guaranteed on the back end.
Hassan Whiteside: Draft pick signing a four year deal, first two years fully guaranteed, second two years non-guaranteed (he played two years, was cut, and is now in the NBDL)
Gary Neal: Undrafted free agent, rookie, signing a fully guaranteed minimum deal out of Summer League for 3 years
Those shoes
Random Aron Baynes thoughts:
1. I'm still "" because while he's pretty obscure, ST was following closely and many posters had labeled him as the No. 1 available option for the Spurs when looking to fill their open roster spot. Great stuff
2. This is pretty damn unexpected. Signing a player doing well in Europe in the middle of a season to a multi-year contract? When's the last time that happened? Ever?
3. Brett Brown obviously knows him really well so this makes the move a lot safer. He knows Baynes on the court and off the court so he would know how well he can fit. That's a huge aspect to this.
4. Baynes played four years at Washington State, so there shouldn't be any culture shock or anything. He's already Americanized.
5. I liked him in the Olympics because he has a really big body who can move. And he plays with some country-strong grit. He actually reminds me a bit of Robertas Javtokas in that he's obviously big and strong but what makes him a prospect is that he's surprisingly agile. From I've seen, he's well above average in terms of running and jumping for a bigman his size in the NBA.
6. He's 26 years old so it's not like he's a young prospect. But, then again, as a late blooming bigman, this is about the age you start to see a noticeable jump in production. It can take a while for bigs to put it together ... which I think has happened to Baynes over the last year or so. Coming out of college, he wasn't much of a prospect. But the fluidity in his game has increased and now he legitimately looks like an NBA caliber player. In the Olympics, he definitely passed the eye-test.
7. Baynes was TEARING IT UP in Europe. There's no other way to put it. He had a 24.7 PER in Euroleague in his ten games. In the Adriatic League, he had a 24.3 PER in 16 games. I'll take a closer look at his stats after the Lakers game tonight but, damn, his numbers look good at first glance.
8. Rebounding has been an issue on and off this season. Baynes has been a monster rebounder this season. It's safe to say he's been the best rebounder outside of the NBA. He averaged 9.8 boards in 26.2 minutes in Euroleague ... those type of numbers just don't happen in that league. For example, the best Splitter ever averaged in Euroleague was 6.0 rebounds.
9. Speaking of Splitter, I do think this move is at least partially done as a sort of Splitter insurance. A team could throw a HUGE deal at Splitter. With Baynes in the fold, if he does well the rest of this season (in practices, at least), the Spurs will actually have some internal leverage to make the prudent decision.
10. Do I think he's going to crack the rotation this season? Actually, no. Barring injury, I think Duncan/Splitter/Diaw with Jackson sprinkled in will be the bigman rotation. The Spurs always basically used a three-man bigman rotation during the championship season. The Duncan/Splitter/Diaw trio with Jackson/Leonard soaking up extra minutes will probably be what we see for the duration of the season and the playoffs.
11. I see Baynes coming in and hopefully climbing his way to the fourth bigman spot behind Diaw. Beating out Blair shouldn't be an issue since Blair's knees have gone out on him. Bonner won't be as easy to pass on the depth charts but it could happen if Baynes transitions well.
12. Is there time for Baynes to make an impression and earn a spot in the rotation? Certainly. , Nazr Mohammed didn't even really start playing until April of 2005 and suddenly he was the starter on the championship team. Being that it's January, Baynes has plenty of time to win over the coaching staff.
13. Long-term, I see Baynes as a possible really good backup center. Maybe in the Will-Perdue-circa-1998 mold of an extremely solid backup center who can provide quality minutes. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking something like 13 points and 11 rebounds per 40 minutes of play. I don't think he'll be a starter ... but as I mentioned previously, his ceiling is difficult to figure out right now since his improvement has been so sudden.
14. The more I think about this signing the more I like it. With Splitter moved into the starting lineup, the Spurs really needed a backup center. Since Diaw can't rebound, a rebounder at backup center would be preferred. And since the bench sometimes lacks athleticism, an athlete at backup center would be preferred. The Spurs were able to get all of that with this signing. Plus, they locked him in for 3.5 seasons.
15. Sure, Baynes could be a bust -- maybe the speed of the game will just be too much for him ... or whatever; the NBA has many pitfalls -- but this is a great roll of the dice that fills a need. I applaud this move no matter the outcome.
Thanks to RC and the rest of the scouting department for doing their due diligence on this kid. Thanks for taking the gamble. Thanks to Holt and co. for s ing out the $$$ -- that's quite a bit of money to spend on a relatively unproven player in the middle of the season.
I apologize for this rambling. Oh, and thanks to SpursTalk for the foresight on this move. Time to get excited about a 15th man as only we can
No, my information is correct. The fact that those players were not rookies means nothing, as it happens to rookies, too if their teams have the cap room to sign them to a deal longer than two years. In any event, Baynes' situation not very different from the guys I mentioned. He is a veteran, just not in the NBA, and he's not horribly established, either. Players like him rarely get true rookie deals, anyway.
It almost always follows that players only sign a long-term deal if there is some guaranteed money in it. Thomas got about two months worth, and Green had the rest of the season covered in his second deal. Neal had only the first year covered (and Blair the first two). It is not common at all to give out a three-year, fully guaranteed minimum deal. If the player is good enough to command three years of guaranteed money, he's good enough to get more than that.
Sorry, but Baynes' deal is a pretty typical one, or at least it was when it was reported to be a four-year one. The fact that it's a two-year deal is interesting, because it's closer to the one Mills got last year. It probably doesn't have a player option, but it definitely shows that he had some leverage.
nice... the spurs frontline rotation had been razor thin. an injury to duncan or splitter and we would be forced to watch dejuan blair get some major minutes. he at least replaces blair at the end of the bench so i doubt blair ever sees the floor again.
like many others, i doubt we see baynes get any decent playing time. but in an emergency, he is a tough rebounder, and a big mobile body (probably 7 feet tall with shoes) to clog up the paint.
Some stats from Euroleague:
EUROLEAGUE 2012-13 REGULAR SEASON RANKS
- Ranks #1 in 2-pointers attempted (92)
- Ranks #1 in 2-pointers made (54)
- Ranks #1 in Offensive Rebounds (39)
- Ranks #1 in Total Rebounds (98)
- Ranks #1 in Index Rating (182)
- Averaged almost 1/3 of team's total rebounds per game.
- Best rebounder of the regular season with 9,8 rebounds per game; Second player in this category averaged almost 1,5 rebound per game less.
- Best offensive rebounder of the regular season (3,9 per game)
- Ranked 2nd in average performance index in regular season of Euroleague (10 games; Keep in mind Olimpija played in what many agreed was the hardest group of all this year!)
The contract particulars will be interesting. There's already a lot out there. For San Antonio's sake, I'm obviously hoping for the four-year deal with the last two years unguaranteed. At the very least, I'm hoping for this season and next season so that the Gilbert Arenas Rule will kick in if he unexpectedly blows up.
Yep, that's crazy.1. I'm still "
Well, the last time it happened was two days ago when Rockets signed Patrick Beverley who was playing in Russia.
But yeah, that's not a common move.
Very excited about this signing. I think he will end up as a pleasant surprise and will help the team this season already.
Stuff like this is why Spurstalk is the best sports forum on the internet. No joke.Random Aron Baynes thoughts:
1. I'm still "
Now we just need to nab Andrew Bogut and we can have a trio of Aussies.
I'm glad Spurs didn't go with a perimeter shooting bigman. Remember Haislip?
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