What specifically on his executive order list would breach the separation of executive/legislative powers?
Seem pretty effective to me. They warn pre-election that Obama will try to take your guns, and now they can say they were right even if they weren't. Most Americans have no idea but they get into an uproar when you talk about taking their .
even funnier that "they" listen.
Only funny because it's a bit benign at the moment. When they move it's like a school of fish, and doesn't have to make sense. One goes and they all go.
I noticed that many of these shootings have involved high schools. We should ban high school.
noted, "sweeping gun control" irony guy.
You don't think that they end up looking foolish for having done just what you said? I.E., "THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING"!, only to find out that there is not even a fine mist going on outside?
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/po...undchecks.htmlThe head of the National Rifle Association says the organization has no problem with tighter background checks of gun purchasers.
what he didn't say is that NRA has achieved
1) blocking any NIH studies on gun violence, an obvious PUBLIC health disaster
2) forcing ATF to keep only paper records on guns, horribly crippling searches.
3) in fact Repugs/NRA have successfully cripped almost all record keeping on guns, crippling all kinds of research that would show more guns cause more gun deaths, etc, etc.
etc, etc, etc.
the NRA, the firearms industry, ALEC, and all the gun-fellators.
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I am relieved that no one showed up on my door step trying to confiscate my guns.
I think we should ban your stupidity
boutons: seems to me your gripe would more be with supine and craven legislators, than with an interest group pe ioning on its own behalf.
I'm the one who said there will be no real changes, dip .
so then... why about it?
Not if it gets them what they wanted. This has played out enough times to be somewhat predictable by now. People now see it as opportunity.
Did you see me ing? Most of the ing isn't about what will happen, but about what some are trying to make happen.
ing about ing. venerable forum pastime.
is like a prison anyways. real talk though...it's funny how many of these shootings occur at public schools. I realize that statistically that makes more sense, sense more people go to public school, but private schools seem to be rarely afflicted by this problem.
Would you mind showing us where the Cons ution explicitly allows the President to give executive orders? And no, "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" doesn't mean "if you don't get your way, ignore Congress and push your agenda regardless"....
how was Congress ignored or new law made? be specific, if you can.
I keep asking this question, if he is so completely incompetent how is he this super america-killing mastermind.
wrt to the question of Consitutionality, all presidents have issued orders. supporting clauses at: Article II, Section 1, clause 1 and Article II, Section 3, clause 5.
how, btw, are presidents supposed to faithfully execute the laws or fulfill the duties of office without giving orders?
I'm speaking on executive orders in general, not really specifically on the gun control issue, as boutons seems to think that by invoking the separation of powers, Rand Paul is somehow trying to "rewrite the Cons ution"...
The fact is, legislative power is vested in Congress, period, end of story.... they create the laws, and the executive branch is only en led to faithfully execute the laws that Congress passes... executive orders are a decidedly legislative action taken by the executive branch, which contradicts the separation of powers laid out in the Cons ution.....
was new law made in this case? please try to be specific.
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