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    HSPA+ and 4g are two different things

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    MiG, I didn't believe you so I just went over to the MoPho forum and holy that sucks. You are right. I thought development for the 3DEvo was dead, not anymore now that I have seen your forums. I read like 5 times "unlocked bootloader = awesome custom roms and no 4g. Locked bootloader = 4g but only minor tweaks to stock rom"

    What a ing piece of . I would also go back to the epic. at least you can get ICS or JB.

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    HSPA+ and 4g are two different things
    No one here has HSPA+ (unless lefty's OneS does)

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    Maybe because its not real 4G

    Usually, Europeans have real 4G but N/A carriers love to call it 3G 4G

    I thought my HTC One S was 4G, well that was my screen displayed, and after rooting/flashing it showed only 3G

    I checked my phone's specs and compared them with the standards, and no the One S is not 4G
    What the are you talking about lefty? I don't think that you know.
    That'S why I said "may"


    And I dont know what the specs of his phones are, it was just speculation

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    Yeah, I think I know what lefty is talking about. I know in Toronto our providers implemented HSPA+ and were erronously calling it '4G' for a while. This was until they implemented LTE, now they correctly call this 4G. They're slimy assholes.

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    Yeah, I think I know what lefty is talking about. I know in Toronto our providers implemented HSPA+ and were erronously calling it '4G' for a while. This was until they implemented LTE, now they correctly call this 4G. They're slimy assholes.
    ATT and Tmobile are calling HSPA+ 4g, even after implementing LTE (in att's case). They differentiate by calling it 4g and 4gLTE.

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    No one here has HSPA+ (unless lefty's OneS does)
    my 4s has it

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    sorry, I meant in the conversation between me manny and lefty.

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    sorry, I meant in the conversation between me manny and lefty.
    education of lefty is very convoluted

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    ATT and Tmobile are calling HSPA+ 4g, even after implementing LTE (in att's case). They differentiate by calling it 4g and 4gLTE.
    Oh, I see. It's just a buzzword to me, but I can't possibly see how the speeds I get on HSPA+ can be considered '4G'. That's laughable.

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    Oh, I see. It's just a buzzword to me, but I can't possibly see how the speeds I get on HSPA+ can be considered '4G'. That's laughable.
    tbh battery life on true 4g is the laughable part

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    Oh, I see. It's just a buzzword to me, but I can't possibly see how the speeds I get on HSPA+ can be considered '4G'. That's laughable.
    Technically, by definition, 4g hasn't been deployed anywhere in the world yet, so you are correct that it is a buzzword.

    HSPA+ is kinda considered "beyond 3g or 3.5g"

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    Yeah, I think I know what lefty is talking about. I know in Toronto our providers implemented HSPA+ and were erronously calling it '4G' for a while. This was until they implemented LTE, now they correctly call this 4G. They're slimy assholes.
    The goods

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    Anyways, screw the Nexus 4, tbh. Getting the HTC One X+ with a corporate plan.

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    Anyways, screw the Nexus 4, tbh. Getting the HTC One X+ with a corporate plan.
    niiiice

    And then you're gonna root the

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    niiiice

    And then you're gonna root the
    yer. Already pre-installing the rooting/bootloader toolkit on my laptop

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    MiG, I didn't believe you so I just went over to the MoPho forum and holy that sucks. You are right. I thought development for the 3DEvo was dead, not anymore now that I have seen your forums. I read like 5 times "unlocked bootloader = awesome custom roms and no 4g. Locked bootloader = 4g but only minor tweaks to stock rom"

    What a ing piece of . I would also go back to the epic. at least you can get ICS or JB.
    Its a god damn ing shame how bad Motorola ed their consumers on this phone man. They did the 18 month upgrade pledge and then just said it. The hardware on the phone is fantastic but who the cares if you don't get to run the lastest software? HEY I HAVE THE MOST POWERFUL GB PHONE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The worst was when they tried to make it up to the owners by offering them a rebate on a new full priced motorola phone. Yeah, me giving you more money is a of a way for you to say you're sorry. I'll never buy another Motorola product. Ever.

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    yer. Already pre-installing the rooting/bootloader toolkit on my laptop
    The All in One toolkit?

    Yeah that's what I used, great stuff

    Since you are an experienced rooter, you may not need to check the instructions, but if you do, I recommend that you watch the embedded YT video in the XDA thread
    (much more detailed than the steps listed in the original post).

    And if your phone is Hboot 1.13 or higher you will need to flash the kernel first with Flash Image GUI (amazing app from the Play Store, otherwise you would have to do it manually, which is the pain in the ass)
    Then, you go to recovery and flash the ROM

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    The All in One toolkit?

    Yeah that's what I used, great stuff

    Since you are an experienced rooter, you may not need to check the instructions, but if you do, I recommend that you watch the embedded YT video in the XDA thread
    (much more detailed than the steps listed in the original post).

    And if your phone is Hboot 1.13 or higher you will need to flash the kernel first with Flash Image GUI (amazing app from the Play Store, otherwise you would have to do it manually, which is the pain in the ass)
    Then, you go to recovery and flash the ROM


    I'll check out the vid, since my friend already has the phone and we might root his today.

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    I'll check out the vid, since my friend already has the phone and we might root his today.
    Niiiice

    Actually the All in One toolkit is really idiotproof; but since nobody wants to mess up his phone....

    I know I almost did


    Oh, and one last thing : install TWRP, not CMW ; I dont know about Sammys or other brands, but on HTC you are better off with the TWRP

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    @resistanze


    so what happened ?

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    Bricked.

    J/k, went smoothly on my friend's One X+. Installed the CWM recovery that came with toolkit though - he can install TWRP if he wants. My phone doesn't come till next week.

    But yeah, the build quality is awesome on that phone.

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    Bricked.

    J/k, went smoothly on my friend's One X+. Installed the CWM recovery that came with toolkit though - he can install TWRP if he wants. My phone doesn't come till next week.

    But yeah, the build quality is awesome on that phone.
    you almost got me with the bricking


    Nice stuff man

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    you almost got me with the bricking


    Nice stuff man
    I hate Purolator. They try to deliver my phone today at 2:30 (I have ing work) then tell me to pick up my package at their depot half an hour in the other direction for my work and home.

    I'm going there tomorrow morning before work tbh. Going to be a productive work day.

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    I hate Purolator. They try to deliver my phone today at 2:30 (I have ing work) then tell me to pick up my package at their depot half an hour in the other direction for my work and home.

    I'm going there tomorrow morning before work tbh. Going to be a productive work day.
    ugh, Apple used to use them in CA. Nightmare logistical investigations.

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